instructions on dealing with islamic crime - The Firearms Forum

jack404 · 10-17-2012, 07:23 PM

dont upset them or insult them says the cops

A man and woman have been threatened by a car passenger who pointed a handgun at them and demanded their belongings at North Adelaide.

Police say the pair were walking along Brougham Place about 3.20am (CDT) on Thursday when a blue Ford Focus pulled up beside them and a male passenger pointed a handgun at them.

He demanded their possessions, but the male victim challenged him, causing the passenger to pull back.

When the man again refused to hand over their possessions, the car sped off.

The passenger is described as being of Mediterranean appearance, with dark black hair, a slight mullet, grey t-shirt, jeans, a solid build and stubble on his chin.

The driver has long hair to his shoulders.

A police representative said people should stay calm when faced with a life-threatening event and not provoke the offender.

glens67 · 10-17-2012, 07:44 PM

Ya just turn around and present your ass to get kicked.
A nice 1911 full clip would work.

GunnyGene · 10-17-2012, 07:48 PM

Always a tough call. Do I shoot the SOB in the head or the heart?

I'm one of those clingers that if somebody points a gun at me, they better just pull the damn trigger. 'Cause if they don't, I sure will.

carver · 10-17-2012, 07:57 PM

I can promise you that if someone is pointing a gun at me, my first response will not be to reach for my gun! I'ld be moving first, and reaching as I go! I agree with the police spokes person about not provoking the offender. Just stop him.

jack404 · 10-17-2012, 08:03 PM

well i'm here we dont have carry , we dont have the abiklity to do this

but the UN is setting you all to be just like us here

victims awaiting a crime

better hope romney wins as if he dont you'll be under the thumb and i'll get to see how all you folks do against the Un and their games

GunnyGene · 10-17-2012, 08:27 PM

Well, Gallup says R 51%, O 45%. Folks hereabouts are making a run on guns n ammo anyway. Gettin' hard to find a M-4. Every gunshop I walk into the staff is grinnin' ear to ear! The last 4 years have been great for them

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carver · 10-17-2012, 08:27 PM

I'm to old to live under someone's thumb!

jack404 · 10-17-2012, 08:41 PM

see the thick antenna base on this one ??

its a C& C truck , take these ones out first and the rest are lost ..

to cripple em put a 600 ml bottle of water ( cap removed) into the air intake , that'll kill it dead in a few rev's

once immobile build a bon fire if you wish

jedwil · 10-17-2012, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by carver

I'm to old to live under someone's thumb!

I'm with you, Myles. UN can kiss it as can any US politician pushing the agenda.

carver · 10-17-2012, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jack404

see the thick antenna base on this one ??

its a C& C truck , take these ones out first and the rest are lost ..

to cripple em put a 600 ml bottle of water ( cap removed) into the air intake , that'll kill it dead in a few rev's

once immobile build a bon fire if you wish

Thanks for the tip Jack. My thoughts were along the lines of a molotov cocktail, several of them to be exact!

GunnyGene · 10-17-2012, 09:54 PM

Being a newbie to the forum I'm not up on all the opinions about this, but here's my take anyway:

The primary problem is that we (the govt') have not adequatly defined who the enemy is. Terrorism is a tactic, not an enemy. Strategically, without defining the enemy, we cannot prepare a effective defense or offense. We are stuck with reacting to specific incidents/attacks, which means we are playing by the other guys rules. Which means we lose.

We (in the US military and political arena) tend to pin our strategy on technology. We have the coolest tech, so why are we losing? Because we don't understand the enemy. We are averse to calling a spade a spade - or in this case a culture for what it is and what it has been known to be for a thousand years. We are scared of being called names. Screw that.

Those who study war, will be familiar with the concept of the "Clash of Civilizations", first written about by Samuel P. Huntington. I'd suggest that anyone not acquainted with this spend some time reading about it at: http://www.strategicstudiesinstitute....cfm?PubID=753 and the book itself: http://www.amazon.com/Clash-Civiliza.../dp/0684844419

targetacqmgt · 10-17-2012, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jack404

dont upset them or insult them says the cops

A man and woman have been threatened by a car passenger who pointed a handgun at them and demanded their belongings at North Adelaide.

Police say the pair were walking along Brougham Place about 3.20am (CDT) on Thursday when a blue Ford Focus pulled up beside them and a male passenger pointed a handgun at them.

He demanded their possessions, but the male victim challenged him, causing the passenger to pull back.

When the man again refused to hand over their possessions, the car sped off.

The passenger is described as being of Mediterranean appearance, with dark black hair, a slight mullet, grey t-shirt, jeans, a solid build and stubble on his chin.

The driver has long hair to his shoulders.

A police representative said people should stay calm when faced with a life-threatening event and not provoke the offender.

Ah JAck have you see the film clip (with sound) when a group of "rebels" in syria shoot down a Syrian military helo?? As it blows up in mid air they "rebels" are screaming allah akbar!!! Me thinks that the new govt IF the rebels win is going to MUCH more fundamental Islamic. Figure???

jedwil · 10-17-2012, 10:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GunnyGene

Being a newbie to the forum I'm not up on all the opinions about this, but here's my take anyway:

The primary problem is that we (the govt') have not adequatly defined who the enemy is. Terrorism is a tactic, not an enemy. Strategically, without defining the enemy, we cannot prepare a effective defense or offense. We are stuck with reacting to specific incidents/attacks, which means we are playing by the other guys rules. Which means we lose.

We (in the US military and political arena) tend to pin our strategy on technology. We have the coolest tech, so why are we losing? Because we don't understand the enemy. We are averse to calling a spade a spade - or in this case a culture for what it is and what it has been known to be for a thousand years. We are scared of being called names. Screw that.

Those who study war, will be familiar with the concept of the "Clash of Civilizations", first written about by Samuel P. Huntington. I'd suggest that anyone not acquainted with this spend some time reading about it at: http://www.strategicstudiesinstitute....cfm?PubID=753 and the book itself: http://www.amazon.com/Clash-Civiliza.../dp/0684844419

Some here on TFF recognize the threats. We call "Spades" "Spades" here. We certainly appreciate the politics out there and know the dangers. many of us are trying to spread the word..........Will check out you book references. Welcome here......

jedwil · 10-17-2012, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by targetacqmgt

Ah JAck have you see the film clip (with sound) when a group of "rebels" in syria shoot down a Syrian military helo?? As it blows up in mid air they "rebels" are screaming allah akbar!!! Me thinks that the new govt IF the rebels win is going to MUCH more fundamental Islamic. Figure???

BHO's Arab Spring is working as planned...............

targetacqmgt · 10-17-2012, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GunnyGene

Being a newbie to the forum I'm not up on all the opinions about this, but here's my take anyway:

The primary problem is that we (the govt') have not adequatly defined who the enemy is. Terrorism is a tactic, not an enemy. Strategically, without defining the enemy, we cannot prepare a effective defense or offense. We are stuck with reacting to specific incidents/attacks, which means we are playing by the other guys rules. Which means we lose.

We (in the US military and political arena) tend to pin our strategy on technology. We have the coolest tech, so why are we losing? Because we don't understand the enemy. We are averse to calling a spade a spade - or in this case a culture for what it is and what it has been known to be for a thousand years. We are scared of being called names. Screw that.

Those who study war, will be familiar with the concept of the "Clash of Civilizations", first written about by Samuel P. Huntington. I'd suggest that anyone not acquainted with this spend some time reading about it at: http://www.strategicstudiesinstitute....cfm?PubID=753 and the book itself: http://www.amazon.com/Clash-Civiliza.../dp/0684844419

Gunny ya got the same BS as Vietnam in Afgan-you kill civilians with those hightech toys and you just create MORE Taliban. We carpet bombed the North and just created more determined NVA, We slaughter everything that moves at night, I saw one army "sniper" take out a Viet at tight because he was going to his outhouse to take a crap after curfew.

Afgan has been a theocracy for about 1100 years. So what does our Federal Govt do- send the military to do? democratize a very old people who live shira law. Gunny they do not "GET" democracy. To top that off we borrow 2 TRILLION dollars from the PRC to finance the war because DC fears to make the war unpopular by leving a "war tax". The Afgans beat the Brits in the 1880's, They beat the Russians (with a little help from US in the form of Stinger AA missles) in the 1990's, and now a combined Euro-US army confronts them. My solution quit wasting ground troops, pull out and turn the whole country into radioactive green glass.

jack404 · 10-17-2012, 10:35 PM

all these rebels are being directed by salafists our mutual enemy in islam

and why we help em is part of the plan for a islamic domination where by the UN can call a extreame emergency and declare a suspention in your rights to fight the evil

then when you have no rights you'll see who is the real evil ..

and you'll be attacked from all sides

targetacqmgt · 10-17-2012, 10:47 PM

I will say this again- the only diff between the Islamic armies that spread from the Arabian Pen. in the 9th Century and conqured North Africa, Turkey, the Balkans, and the lower half of Spain is todays Islam is armed with AKs, RPGs, Tanks, IRBMs, the latest aircraft oil money can buy and yester year's who had sword and bows and cannon and muskets.

time2shoot · 10-18-2012, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by carver

I'm to old to live under someone's thumb!

yep i'm with ya. you too Jed.

time2shoot · 10-18-2012, 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jack404

see the thick antenna base on this one ??

its a C& C truck , take these ones out first and the rest are lost ..

to cripple em put a 600 ml bottle of water ( cap removed) into the air intake , that'll kill it dead in a few rev's

once immobile build a bon fire if you wish

thanks Jack.
How about a pic of that air intake.

jack404 · 10-18-2012, 12:54 AM

its recessed on the drivers side between the cab ( this model anyway) and the rear section and has clips under the round filter section ( the clips are for a snorkle )

unclip its and shove in ya water bottle

drowns the motor

nearly everything they stock besides the old M113's are similar just different places , some up high a big cylinder shaped filter , take that off and flood the tube below , that leads to the motor

on the mack based ones its the cylinder on the side on the engine housing

stupid UN rule for external oil bath dust filters makes this possible ( the cylinders you take off)

thats what happens when you hire engineers and consultants to spec stuff instead of soldiers who'll use the stuff

i'm a soldier by trade , so look for weakpoints in everything we have and they have ( whoever they may be )

time2shoot · 10-18-2012, 12:49 PM

Thanks jack.

Double D · 10-18-2012, 02:33 PM

For those who may still be confused:

THE ENEMY = ISLAM & DEMOCRATS......Not necessarily in that order...

Double D · 10-18-2012, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by carver

I'm to old to live under someone's thumb!

Me too.
Thats the day I get to find out exactly what the scriptures mean and whether the streets are actually paved with gold or not.

time2shoot · 10-18-2012, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Double D

Me too.
Thats the day I get to find out exactly what the scriptures mean and whether the streets are actually paved with gold or not.

Look for me by the gates. I'll be the old fat guy with the biggest frown, becouse i no longer can help rid the USA of scumbags.

45silverback · 10-18-2012, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jack404

well i'm here we dont have carry , we dont have the abiklity to do this

but the UN is setting you all to be just like us here

victims awaiting a crime

better hope romney wins as if he dont you'll be under the thumb and i'll get to see how all you folks do against the Un and their games

I'll tell ya how most will do here Mate. It'll sound something like "BAAAAAAA..."

And look /smell something like a herd of sheep.

Sad but true.

10-17-2012, 07:23 PM	#1
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	instructions on dealing with islamic crime dont upset them or insult them says the cops A man and woman have been threatened by a car passenger who pointed a handgun at them and demanded their belongings at North Adelaide. Police say the pair were walking along Brougham Place about 3.20am (CDT) on Thursday when a blue Ford Focus pulled up beside them and a male passenger pointed a handgun at them. He demanded their possessions, but the male victim challenged him, causing the passenger to pull back. When the man again refused to hand over their possessions, the car sped off. The passenger is described as being of Mediterranean appearance, with dark black hair, a slight mullet, grey t-shirt, jeans, a solid build and stubble on his chin. The driver has long hair to his shoulders. A police representative said people should stay calm when faced with a life-threatening event and not provoke the offender. -->

10-17-2012, 07:44 PM	#2
glens67 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Middleton, ID Contributor Posts: 956	Re: instructions on dealing with islamic crime Ya just turn around and present your ass to get kicked. A nice 1911 full clip would work. __________________ The fish is rotting from the head down—all is not well at the top of the political hierarchy. "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." Albert Einstein There is nothing more dangerous than a fanatic moron. Many problems we face today are there because people who work for a living are now outnumbered by those who vote for a living. Molon Labe μολὼν λαβέ A Deo victoria Glen

10-17-2012, 07:48 PM	#3
GunnyGene Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 1,962	Re: instructions on dealing with islamic crime Always a tough call. Do I shoot the SOB in the head or the heart? I'm one of those clingers that if somebody points a gun at me, they better just pull the damn trigger. 'Cause if they don't, I sure will.

10-17-2012, 07:57 PM	#4
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,547	Re: instructions on dealing with islamic crime I can promise you that if someone is pointing a gun at me, my first response will not be to reach for my gun! I'ld be moving first, and reaching as I go! I agree with the police spokes person about not provoking the offender. Just stop him. __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.

10-17-2012, 08:03 PM	#5
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: instructions on dealing with islamic crime well i'm here we dont have carry , we dont have the abiklity to do this but the UN is setting you all to be just like us here victims awaiting a crime better hope romney wins as if he dont you'll be under the thumb and i'll get to see how all you folks do against the Un and their games

10-17-2012, 08:27 PM	#6
GunnyGene Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 1,962	Re: instructions on dealing with islamic crime Well, Gallup says R 51%, O 45%. Folks hereabouts are making a run on guns n ammo anyway. Gettin' hard to find a M-4. Every gunshop I walk into the staff is grinnin' ear to ear! The last 4 years have been great for them .

10-17-2012, 08:41 PM	#8
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: instructions on dealing with islamic crime see the thick antenna base on this one ?? its a C& C truck , take these ones out first and the rest are lost .. to cripple em put a 600 ml bottle of water ( cap removed) into the air intake , that'll kill it dead in a few rev's once immobile build a bon fire if you wish Last edited by jack404; 10-17-2012 at 08:43 PM..

10-17-2012, 09:54 PM	#11
GunnyGene Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 1,962	Re: instructions on dealing with islamic crime Being a newbie to the forum I'm not up on all the opinions about this, but here's my take anyway: The primary problem is that we (the govt') have not adequatly defined who the enemy is. Terrorism is a tactic, not an enemy. Strategically, without defining the enemy, we cannot prepare a effective defense or offense. We are stuck with reacting to specific incidents/attacks, which means we are playing by the other guys rules. Which means we lose. We (in the US military and political arena) tend to pin our strategy on technology. We have the coolest tech, so why are we losing? Because we don't understand the enemy. We are averse to calling a spade a spade - or in this case a culture for what it is and what it has been known to be for a thousand years. We are scared of being called names. Screw that. Those who study war, will be familiar with the concept of the "Clash of Civilizations", first written about by Samuel P. Huntington. I'd suggest that anyone not acquainted with this spend some time reading about it at: http://www.strategicstudiesinstitute....cfm?PubID=753 and the book itself: http://www.amazon.com/Clash-Civiliza.../dp/0684844419

10-17-2012, 10:35 PM	#16
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: instructions on dealing with islamic crime all these rebels are being directed by salafists our mutual enemy in islam and why we help em is part of the plan for a islamic domination where by the UN can call a extreame emergency and declare a suspention in your rights to fight the evil then when you have no rights you'll see who is the real evil .. and you'll be attacked from all sides

10-17-2012, 10:47 PM	#17
targetacqmgt Registered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 494	Re: instructions on dealing with islamic crime I will say this again- the only diff between the Islamic armies that spread from the Arabian Pen. in the 9th Century and conqured North Africa, Turkey, the Balkans, and the lower half of Spain is todays Islam is armed with AKs, RPGs, Tanks, IRBMs, the latest aircraft oil money can buy and yester year's who had sword and bows and cannon and muskets.

10-18-2012, 12:54 AM	#20
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: instructions on dealing with islamic crime its recessed on the drivers side between the cab ( this model anyway) and the rear section and has clips under the round filter section ( the clips are for a snorkle ) unclip its and shove in ya water bottle drowns the motor nearly everything they stock besides the old M113's are similar just different places , some up high a big cylinder shaped filter , take that off and flood the tube below , that leads to the motor on the mack based ones its the cylinder on the side on the engine housing stupid UN rule for external oil bath dust filters makes this possible ( the cylinders you take off) thats what happens when you hire engineers and consultants to spec stuff instead of soldiers who'll use the stuff i'm a soldier by trade , so look for weakpoints in everything we have and they have ( whoever they may be ) Last edited by jack404; 10-18-2012 at 01:03 AM..

10-18-2012, 12:49 PM	#21
time2shoot Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Brandon SD Contributor Posts: 2,612	Re: instructions on dealing with islamic crime Thanks jack. __________________ I AM A VETERAN MY OATH OF ENLISTMENT HAS NO EXPIRATION DATE!

10-18-2012, 02:33 PM	#22
Double D TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: North Florida Contributor Posts: 8,253	Re: instructions on dealing with islamic crime For those who may still be confused: THE ENEMY = ISLAM & DEMOCRATS......Not necessarily in that order... __________________ I own a bunch of scary guns. You want em? Come and take em..... Liberalism is a serious, non curable, mental disorder... NRA LIFE MEMBER Oath Keepers Member NRA Certified Instructor 30 Yr CC permit holder.