vierling - The Firearms Forum

jim b · 10-28-2009, 12:50 PM

A friend of mine ask me to look into a gun his father brought back with him from Germany after the war.
This gun is a 4 barrel
The top barrel is a 5.4 mm
The bottom is a 7.8 mm
and has sxs 16 ga.
The name on the side of the barrels is (KRUPP-LAUFSTAHL)
After some research, I had found the KRUPP family history in the steel mills one of the largest, then I found out the LAUFSTAHL is the type of steel used to make the barrels ( fluid steel) I did find the name SUHL stamped in the gun, my research tells me this is a town in Germany that produced this gun, (is this true) I also found that SUHL mean SAUER, I have found JP sauer guns but nothing in a 4 barrel
the ser # on this gun is 17758
I have found many 3 barrel gun by KRIEGHOFF & SEMPERT (Neptune) but I have not been able to locate a 4 barrel I believe the 3 barrel is a (drilling)
Can anyone help with info in the gun please
thank you for your time
Jim

jondar · 10-30-2009, 10:44 AM

Jim, are you saying that the small rifle barrel is above the 16 gauge SXS? My chart from the NRA of multi-barrel guns shows both rifle barrels below the shotgun barrels, and does identify it as a Vierling. I guess it would have been possible to arrange the barrels as you describe. Just curious.

muddober · 10-30-2009, 02:15 PM

jim b, I have seen vierlings like the one you are describing with the shotgun barrels in between the rifle barrels and I have seen them the way jondar has described. All of the guns I have seen are of very high quality as I am sure your friends gun is as well.

You are correct that a 3 barreled gun is called a drilling which comes from the German word for 3 being drie and vierling from vier for 4.

I know that isn't much but it is all I have got.

Ron

10-28-2009, 12:50 PM	#1
jim b Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1	vierling A friend of mine ask me to look into a gun his father brought back with him from Germany after the war. This gun is a 4 barrel The top barrel is a 5.4 mm The bottom is a 7.8 mm and has sxs 16 ga. The name on the side of the barrels is (KRUPP-LAUFSTAHL) After some research, I had found the KRUPP family history in the steel mills one of the largest, then I found out the LAUFSTAHL is the type of steel used to make the barrels ( fluid steel) I did find the name SUHL stamped in the gun, my research tells me this is a town in Germany that produced this gun, (is this true) I also found that SUHL mean SAUER, I have found JP sauer guns but nothing in a 4 barrel the ser # on this gun is 17758 I have found many 3 barrel gun by KRIEGHOFF & SEMPERT (Neptune) but I have not been able to locate a 4 barrel I believe the 3 barrel is a (drilling) Can anyone help with info in the gun please thank you for your time Jim -->

10-30-2009, 10:44 AM	#2
jondar V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 461	Re: vierling Jim, are you saying that the small rifle barrel is above the 16 gauge SXS? My chart from the NRA of multi-barrel guns shows both rifle barrels below the shotgun barrels, and does identify it as a Vierling. I guess it would have been possible to arrange the barrels as you describe. Just curious.

10-30-2009, 02:15 PM	#3
muddober Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,436	Re: vierling jim b, I have seen vierlings like the one you are describing with the shotgun barrels in between the rifle barrels and I have seen them the way jondar has described. All of the guns I have seen are of very high quality as I am sure your friends gun is as well. You are correct that a 3 barreled gun is called a drilling which comes from the German word for 3 being drie and vierling from vier for 4. I know that isn't much but it is all I have got. Ron