Is .40 goin to be hard to find? - The Firearms Forum

conan1 · 12-29-2009, 08:12 AM

I was talking to someone I work with and he said the government has an order for .40 and to buy what you can find because it is going to be scarce. Anyone with a better insight on this? He said the cost of reloading has increased to the point that its just as cost effective to just shoot market rounds also. Don't think he has his head on right but would like to hear your thoughts.

LurpyGeek · 12-29-2009, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by conan1

I was talking to someone I work with and he said the government has an order for .40 and to buy what you can find because it is going to be scarce. Anyone with a better insight on this? He said the cost of reloading has increased to the point that its just as cost effective to just shoot market rounds also. Don't think he has his head on right but would like to hear your thoughts.

Your friend is likely referring to this report from a few months ago:
http://www.gunreports.com/news/ammo/...CE_1460-1.html

I don't think it will have much of an impact on ammo supplies. Also, notice that it is a specific brand and weight. Unless that's exactly what you're looking for, I doubt a noticeable difference will be seen. It may take up some extra production capacity at Winchester.

Terry_P · 12-29-2009, 08:56 AM

They are as far away as my loading bench. The costs have risen but it is still less expensive per round to roll your own. You can also shoot cast reloads (your own) at significantly less cost.

GBertolet · 12-29-2009, 09:22 AM

You should be able to load your own with jacketed or plated bullets for about 10 bucks for a box of 50, if you buy the bullets in bulk. If you cast your own bullets, with free or almost free lead, preferably wheel weights, you can cut that amount almost in half. Factory ball ammo the last time I checked, was about 20 bucks a box of 50, and not getting any cheaper. If you don't have any reloading or bullet casting equiptment, you will have to factor in those costs also in your decision.

army mp · 12-29-2009, 09:37 AM

There are a lot more reasons than price that I reload and cast. But if just for cost. This link is pretty good.

http://10xshooters.com/calculators/H...Calculator.htm

Gearheadpyro · 12-31-2009, 06:09 PM

My reloads cost only 1/2 of what factory ammo costs, sometimes less. I do not cast my own bullets.

The lower cost and improved performance from tuning the ammo to my gun are why I load my own.

johnlives4christ · 12-31-2009, 09:37 PM

normally 40 caliber ammo is all that the local walmart has on it's shelves anymore

cakes · 12-31-2009, 10:11 PM

The government has had an order in for .40 since it was introduced. It won't affect a thing. The only difference is that, for some strange reason, you heard about this order.

bcj1755 · 12-31-2009, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by johnlives4christ

normally 40 caliber ammo is all that the local walmart has on it's shelves anymore

It's the same way here. .40 is just about the only pistol ammo they seem to have.

keokeboy · 01-31-2010, 12:00 PM

lots of federal 40's and winchester 45 acp this am wally world conway

mikld · 01-31-2010, 06:22 PM

I was looking at reloading supplies on the web and have seen some prices have gone back down to "pre election panic" prices. Primers seem to still be high, but powder and some bullets have dropped.

tEN wOLVES · 01-31-2010, 06:24 PM

I shoot the 40 S&W, and have found it to be plentiful here in So. California, they seem to keep the 40 more stocked than any of the other calibers.

Regards

tEN wOLVES

woolleyworm · 02-02-2010, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by conan1

I was talking to someone I work with and he said the government has an order for .40 and to buy what you can find because it is going to be scarce. Anyone with a better insight on this? He said the cost of reloading has increased to the point that its just as cost effective to just shoot market rounds also. Don't think he has his head on right but would like to hear your thoughts.

You're correct, he's got a short between the headset. The order is for up to 50 gazzilion rounds, doesn't necessarily mean that they are going to actually purchase that many. The total amount of the order is only a small percentage of what is made by all ammo companies combined; there will be plenty to go around.
Handloading is and always will be cheaper than factory ammo, unless of course ..... well, I don't want to go there, but I'm stocked up just in case. If you get to the range often, then reloading is probably worth looking into. It's not something I would recommend to everyone, (ie your coworker). It's just as addicting as going to the range.

Semper Fi and Best of Luck in your endevours,

Woolley

mncarpenter · 02-02-2010, 05:15 AM

As a commercial carpenter ,have done work in the same building as the Midwest FBI HQ on many occasions..watched 'em haul pallets of the stuff up the freight elevator. Those kids go through a lot of ammo.

NitroDave08 · 02-02-2010, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by johnlives4christ

normally 40 caliber ammo is all that the local walmart has on it's shelves anymore

Same here in Cheyenne.

12-29-2009, 08:12 AM	#1
conan1 Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Somewhere in KY Posts: 38	Is .40 goin to be hard to find? I was talking to someone I work with and he said the government has an order for .40 and to buy what you can find because it is going to be scarce. Anyone with a better insight on this? He said the cost of reloading has increased to the point that its just as cost effective to just shoot market rounds also. Don't think he has his head on right but would like to hear your thoughts. __________________ Don't p*** on my leg and tell me it's raining! -->

12-29-2009, 08:56 AM	#3
Terry_P Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NH Posts: 2,513	Re: Is .40 goin to be hard to find? They are as far away as my loading bench. The costs have risen but it is still less expensive per round to roll your own. You can also shoot cast reloads (your own) at significantly less cost. __________________ NRA and NAHC Life "Both oligarch and tyrant mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms." -Aristotle

12-29-2009, 09:22 AM	#4
GBertolet Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 48	Re: Is .40 goin to be hard to find? You should be able to load your own with jacketed or plated bullets for about 10 bucks for a box of 50, if you buy the bullets in bulk. If you cast your own bullets, with free or almost free lead, preferably wheel weights, you can cut that amount almost in half. Factory ball ammo the last time I checked, was about 20 bucks a box of 50, and not getting any cheaper. If you don't have any reloading or bullet casting equiptment, you will have to factor in those costs also in your decision.

12-29-2009, 09:37 AM	#5
army mp V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: western Pa, Posts: 479	Re: Is .40 goin to be hard to find? There are a lot more reasons than price that I reload and cast. But if just for cost. This link is pretty good. http://10xshooters.com/calculators/H...Calculator.htm

12-31-2009, 06:09 PM	#6
Gearheadpyro V.I.P. Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 110	Re: Is .40 goin to be hard to find? My reloads cost only 1/2 of what factory ammo costs, sometimes less. I do not cast my own bullets. The lower cost and improved performance from tuning the ammo to my gun are why I load my own. __________________ www.southernmarksman.com Owner of & Chief Instructor for The Southern Marksman, LLC NRA Life Member, NRA CRSO, Multi-Discipline NRA Certified Instructor

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johnlives4christ Former Guest Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,828	Re: Is .40 goin to be hard to find? normally 40 caliber ammo is all that the local walmart has on it's shelves anymore

12-31-2009, 10:11 PM	#8
cakes V.I.P. Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Northern Maine Posts: 230	Re: Is .40 goin to be hard to find? The government has had an order in for .40 since it was introduced. It won't affect a thing. The only difference is that, for some strange reason, you heard about this order. __________________ If at first you don't succeed, shoot, shoot again.

01-31-2010, 12:00 PM	#10
keokeboy V.I.P. Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: conway ar Posts: 138	Re: Is .40 goin to be hard to find? lots of federal 40's and winchester 45 acp this am wally world conway

01-31-2010, 06:22 PM	#11
mikld Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Oregon Posts: 573	Re: Is .40 goin to be hard to find? I was looking at reloading supplies on the web and have seen some prices have gone back down to "pre election panic" prices. Primers seem to still be high, but powder and some bullets have dropped. __________________ My Anchor is holding fast.

01-31-2010, 06:24 PM	#12
tEN wOLVES V.I.P. Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Northridge, California Posts: 174	Re: Is .40 goin to be hard to find? I shoot the 40 S&W, and have found it to be plentiful here in So. California, they seem to keep the 40 more stocked than any of the other calibers. Regards tEN wOLVES __________________ NRA, SASS #69595, NCOWS #3123, RATTS # 369, SCORRS, BROW, ROWSS#40, Leather Shop

02-02-2010, 05:15 AM	#14
mncarpenter V.I.P. Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Minnesota Contributor Posts: 479	Re: Is .40 goin to be hard to find? As a commercial carpenter ,have done work in the same building as the Midwest FBI HQ on many occasions..watched 'em haul pallets of the stuff up the freight elevator. Those kids go through a lot of ammo. __________________ *"No arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is as formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women."- Ronald Reagan* *"Remember to have your democrats neutered or spayed" -Ann Coulter*