Another warning - The Firearms Forum

RunningOnMT · 10-18-2009, 06:08 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0qNEOdtenY

cycloneman · 10-18-2009, 09:33 PM

thanks for the post.

4EvrLearning · 10-19-2009, 12:17 AM

wow..... although I'm not totally surprised, it's daunting to hear it verbalized so clearly...

red14 · 10-19-2009, 09:09 AM

This is scary!

terryu1 · 10-19-2009, 09:54 AM

I am an new member and I feel very much "at home" here. I viewed this clip and agree that this is getting worse everyday. Along with the White House's war on Fox. I love their attitude that they are appalled that Fox would "fact check" ANY guest that the administration would provide because none of the other Sunday news show would ever do this. Amazing!!! They cannot possibly not realize just how many people disagree with what they are doing. When dictators try to take over in other countries they usually do it with military. Does he think the US military would EVER follow his orders if confrontations ever did come about due to their hard stance and domineering attitude.

45Auto · 10-19-2009, 02:52 PM

Early in my education, I learned to debunk the divisive fear tactics, lies, and half truths of the anti-gun lobby. To those who don’t know anything about guns, the anti gun lobby can sound frightening and highly credible. The last thing lobbyists and politicians want is for educated people to check facts and do an analysis of their messages. The same is true here.

Notice: There is no link to any of the actual language of the horrible treaty he claims to have read. If it’s so bad let me read it. Let me see the offending paragraphs which support his dire conclusions. But even without reading the treaty I see half-truths and overly dramatic scare tactics which cause me to be suspicious. Take for example the subject of treaties. Every one of the thousands of treaties the U.S.A. has made is ‘technically’ an agreement by us and other nations to limit our choices in some area. It’s a big stretch to call a treaty an act of giving up sovereignty. Notice how dramatically he proclaims that this treaty will cause us to loose power and crate of a new world government. This is nothing short of silly.

In short, I give this Englishman no more credibility than I would give Sarah Brady’s arguments in support of banning the AR15.

Bobitis · 10-19-2009, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 45Auto

Early in my education, I learned to debunk the divisive fear tactics, lies, and half truths of the anti-gun lobby. To those who don’t know anything about guns, the anti gun lobby can sound frightening and highly credible. The last thing lobbyists and politicians want is for educated people to check facts and do an analysis of their messages. The same is true here.

Notice: There is no link to any of the actual language of the horrible treaty he claims to have read. If it’s so bad let me read it. Let me see the offending paragraphs which support his dire conclusions. But even without reading the treaty I see half-truths and overly dramatic scare tactics which cause me to be suspicious. Take for example the subject of treaties. Every one of the thousands of treaties the U.S.A. has made is ‘technically’ an agreement by us and other nations to limit our choices in some area. It’s a big stretch to call a treaty an act of giving up sovereignty. Notice how dramatically he proclaims that this treaty will cause us to loose power and crate of a new world government. This is nothing short of silly.

In short, I give this Englishman no more credibility than I would give Sarah Brady’s arguments in support of banning the AR15.

No kidding.
We have transparancy in government now.

It's crystal clear that the third world has already taken over our country.
We've been supporting them for decades and this is what we have to show for it.

Land of the Free indeed.

Haligan · 10-19-2009, 08:17 PM

Very troubling, even if everyone doesn't see what is happening to our country.

22WRF · 10-19-2009, 08:45 PM

Obama can sign it but it will be meaningless. The Brit needs to bone up one the Constitution which prohibits the President alone to commit the United States to an agreement with other nations (the Senate must advise, consent, concur, and ratify).

Bobitis · 10-19-2009, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 22WRF

Obama can sign it but it will be meaningless. The Brit needs to bone up one the Constitution which prohibits the President alone to commit the United States to an agreement with other nations (the Senate must advise, consent, concur, and ratify).

We're doomed....

cycloneman · 10-19-2009, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 22WRF

Obama can sign it but it will be meaningless. The Brit needs to bone up one the Constitution which prohibits the President alone to commit the United States to an agreement with other nations (the Senate must advise, consent, concur, and ratify).

Yes but if he signs it at least you know where his heart is.

bcj1755 · 10-19-2009, 09:01 PM

Obambababababa can sign anything treaty he wishes, it does not go into effect until ratified by the Senate. Remeber that CIFTA treaty that Slick Willie signed in the 90s? The Senate never ratified it so it does not count. The problem is that the Senate has enough liberal closet commie douchebags that Barry can anything ratified

Big ugly · 10-20-2009, 04:12 AM

INTERLOPER PRESIDENT

terryu1 · 10-20-2009, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by bcj1755

Obambababababa can sign anything treaty he wishes, it does not go into effect until ratified by the Senate. Remeber that CIFTA treaty that Slick Willie signed in the 90s? The Senate never ratified it so it does not count. The problem is that the Senate has enough liberal closet commie douchebags that Barry can anything ratified

I was thinking the same thing but was not sure. I agree with someone else said that this video may be a bit overcooked but things Barama is doing are frightening.

Trouble 45-70 · 10-20-2009, 10:11 AM

The Executive branch is implementing parts of unratified treaties by enacting those provisions as policy. If the Congress does nothing to Check the power grab, it will become defacto law. Some Supreme Court Justices already think unratified Treaties are legal and binding because they are accepted in foreign countries. Transnationalism in action. Time to put up the tar and feathers and get serious. Hope there is an election in 2010 and Fox News and the internet are still free and operating.

ToolsForPros · 10-20-2009, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Trouble 45-70

Hope there is an election in 2010 and Fox News and the internet are still free and operating.

My thoughts exactly. Wait until the Internet is firewalled off because too many people are revealing the truth about Obama

terryu1 · 10-20-2009, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ToolsForPros

My thoughts exactly. Wait until the Internet is firewalled off because too many people are revealing the truth about Obama

I think that would be a sufficient "spark" to light the dynamite keg Obama is trying to sit on!!!

Haligan · 10-20-2009, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Trouble 45-70

. Hope there is an election in 2010 and Fox News and the internet are still free and operating.

2010 Heck,
I hope their's a free and fair election in 2009.

I'm from New Jersey ya, know. We're trying to vote out one of the worst of the worst in John Corzine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSe24deOpUY

Marlin T · 10-20-2009, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Trouble 45-70

Hope there is an election in 2010 and Fox News and the internet are still free and operating.

The Obomba administration is working on the internet being free, and won't be if the Marxists have their way. (Net Neutrality)

45Auto, please check out this PDF, there is a link to the UN document that he was referring to.

AL MOUNT · 10-20-2009, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by terryu1

I am an new member and I feel very much "at home" here.

Dude.... with an avatar like you got.....

Welcome to the forum.....

45Auto · 10-21-2009, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Marlin T

The Obomba administration is working on the internet being free, and won't be if the Marxists have their way. (Net Neutrality)

45Auto, please check out this PDF, there is a link to the UN document that he was referring to.

Thanks, I'll check it out.

red14 · 10-21-2009, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by AL MOUNT

Dude.... with an avatar like you got.....

Welcome to the forum.....

Those are his sisters (Siamese)

.

keepitlow · 10-22-2009, 08:59 AM

Well, we will see...people don't run the government...the rich run the government. I don't see the rich giving away their wealth for carbon charity though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw

Haligan · 10-22-2009, 12:13 PM

Keepitlow,
+1

10-18-2009, 06:08 PM	#1
RunningOnMT Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Akron, Ohio Contributor Posts: 4,720	Another warning http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0qNEOdtenY -->

10-18-2009, 09:33 PM	#2
cycloneman Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 7,405	Re: Another warning thanks for the post. __________________ Who are you going to serve today?

10-19-2009, 12:17 AM	#3
4EvrLearning Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Left Coast Posts: 1,449	Re: Another warning wow..... although I'm not totally surprised, it's daunting to hear it verbalized so clearly... __________________ *"Until God is finished with me, I am immortal." Jonathan Edwards, American Theologian (1703-1758)*

10-19-2009, 09:09 AM	#4
red14 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N FLA Posts: 3,913	Re: Another warning This is scary! __________________ I never argue, I state my opinion, and support my position.

10-19-2009, 09:54 AM	#5
terryu1 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NE Pennsylvania Contributor Posts: 1,245	Re: Another warning I am an new member and I feel very much "at home" here. I viewed this clip and agree that this is getting worse everyday. Along with the White House's war on Fox. I love their attitude that they are appalled that Fox would "fact check" ANY guest that the administration would provide because none of the other Sunday news show would ever do this. Amazing!!! They cannot possibly not realize just how many people disagree with what they are doing. When dictators try to take over in other countries they usually do it with military. Does he think the US military would EVER follow his orders if confrontations ever did come about due to their hard stance and domineering attitude. __________________ ARMED INFIDEL

10-19-2009, 02:52 PM	#6
45Auto Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,121	Re: Another warning Early in my education, I learned to debunk the divisive fear tactics, lies, and half truths of the anti-gun lobby. To those who don’t know anything about guns, the anti gun lobby can sound frightening and highly credible. The last thing lobbyists and politicians want is for educated people to check facts and do an analysis of their messages. The same is true here. Notice: There is no link to any of the actual language of the horrible treaty he claims to have read. If it’s so bad let me read it. Let me see the offending paragraphs which support his dire conclusions. But even without reading the treaty I see half-truths and overly dramatic scare tactics which cause me to be suspicious. Take for example the subject of treaties. Every one of the thousands of treaties the U.S.A. has made is ‘technically’ an agreement by us and other nations to limit our choices in some area. It’s a big stretch to call a treaty an act of giving up sovereignty. Notice how dramatically he proclaims that this treaty will cause us to loose power and crate of a new world government. This is nothing short of silly. In short, I give this Englishman no more credibility than I would give Sarah Brady’s arguments in support of banning the AR15.

10-19-2009, 08:17 PM	#8
Haligan Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: FEMA Region II Posts: 1,900	Re: Another warning Very troubling, even if everyone doesn't see what is happening to our country. __________________ "He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falshoods and errors." - Thomas Jefferson

10-19-2009, 08:45 PM	#9
22WRF Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pea Ridge, FL Contributor Posts: 4,253	Re: Another warning Obama can sign it but it will be meaningless. The Brit needs to bone up one the Constitution which prohibits the President alone to commit the United States to an agreement with other nations (the Senate must advise, consent, concur, and ratify). __________________ NRA GOA CCRKBA Happiness is a warm barrel

10-19-2009, 09:01 PM	#12
bcj1755 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: A wretched hive of scum and villiany Posts: 4,357	Re: Another warning Obambababababa can sign anything treaty he wishes, it does not go into effect until ratified by the Senate. Remeber that CIFTA treaty that Slick Willie signed in the 90s? The Senate never ratified it so it does not count. The problem is that the Senate has enough liberal closet commie douchebags that Barry can anything ratified __________________ History is much like an endless waltz. The three beats of war, peace, and revolution continue on forever. Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges - Cicero If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen. - Samuel Adams Last edited by bcj1755; 10-19-2009 at 09:03 PM..

10-20-2009, 04:12 AM	#13
Big ugly Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Knoxville Tennessee Contributor Posts: 2,603	Re: Another warning INTERLOPER PRESIDENT __________________ "You say the Devil made do it with a smile. Raisin' hell and howlin at the moon. Well I'm gonna put your @$$ back in line. I'm gonna scare the Devil out of you." BlackBerry Smoke Song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R513dA4peMg Nothing is "proof" against a truly talented fool. Swanshot Last edited by Big ugly; 10-20-2009 at 04:18 AM..

10-20-2009, 10:11 AM	#15
Trouble 45-70 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NE Ar. W. of Black River Contributor Posts: 2,703	Re: Another warning The Executive branch is implementing parts of unratified treaties by enacting those provisions as policy. If the Congress does nothing to Check the power grab, it will become defacto law. Some Supreme Court Justices already think unratified Treaties are legal and binding because they are accepted in foreign countries. Transnationalism in action. Time to put up the tar and feathers and get serious. Hope there is an election in 2010 and Fox News and the internet are still free and operating.

10-22-2009, 08:59 AM	#23
keepitlow V.I.P. Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: US Posts: 164	Re: Another warning Well, we will see...people don't run the government...the rich run the government. I don't see the rich giving away their wealth for carbon charity though. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw

10-22-2009, 12:13 PM	#24
Haligan Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: FEMA Region II Posts: 1,900	Re: Another warning Keepitlow, +1 __________________ "He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falshoods and errors." - Thomas Jefferson Last edited by Haligan; 11-18-2009 at 06:36 PM..