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Join Date: Apr 2008
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![]() ![]() A pair of H&R .38s with and without bayonets. ![]() Underside showing the spring for the folding bayonet. BTW, how is Mr. Goforth doing with his H&R book? Best regards, Greg
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Join Date: Aug 2009
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Here are a few, no blades on mine. 44 bull dog
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: houston, tx
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H&R knife revolver is one of H&R rarest production revolvers. they were manufactured in both the 2nd and 3rd models.
AUTO-EJECTING KNIFE MODEL ------------------------------1901-1917 This is the same as the regular Auto-Ejector Model except, 4 inch barrel with a 2¼ inch double edge knife attached under the barrel. Only finish listed in catalogs was nickel but some blue finish examples have turned up SAME AS SECOND MODEL AUTO-EJECTOR, BLACK POWDER ONLY------------1901-1904 SAME AS THIRD MODEL AUTO-EJECTOR, SMOKELESS POWDER---------------1905-1917 VALUE: 100%= $2000+ (very rare) 95%= $1500 60%= $550 add 10% premium for blue finish. Deduct 60% if knife is missing AMERICAN DOUBLE ACTION FIRST MODEL (BLACK POWDER MODEL):-------------------------------- 1884-1904 32 caliber 6 shot, 38 caliber 5 shot, 44 caliber 5 shot, pull pin cylinder release, barrel length 2½, 4½ & 6 inches nickel finish standard, blue considered rare. Marked on top strap “AMERICAN DOUBLE ACTION”, first variation will have a round barrel & nickel trigger guard-------1884-1887 second variation will have a octagon barrel & nickel trigger guard--1888-1897 third variation will have a octagon barrel , blue trigger guard and company name and address on left side of barrel----1898-1904 100%=$225 60%=$95, 1st Variation rarely seen, add 50% premium., for all American Double Actions variations and variants: add 15% premium for blue finish, add 10% premium for 4 ½ “ or 6” barrel, add 5%-10% premium for nickel trigger guard (pre 1898) AMERICAN DOUBLE ACTION SECOND MODEL (SMOKELESS POWDER) --------------------------------1905-1941 32 caliber 6 shot, 38 caliber 5 shot, 44 caliber 5 shot, pull pin cylinder release, calibers and barrel lengths are the same as first model, 44 Webley caliber discontinued in 1921, nickel finish, blue optional. Difference between First Model and Second Model is the caliber Markings on the left side of the barrel. After 1930 this model was listed in catalogs as; AMERICAN DOUBLE ACTION No. 60 .32 Caliber 6 shot and AMERICAN DOUBLE ACTION No. 65 .38 Caliber 5 shot 100%=$225 60%= $75 For all American Double Action Second Models add 15% premium for blue finish and 10% for 4 ½” or 6” barrel MODEL 925 DEFENDER SECOND MODEL -------------------------1964-1972 Top Break, Double Action, 38 S&W Caliber, 5 Shot, Birds Head Grip, 22 rimfire 9 shot (dropped after first year), Blue finish, Barrel lengths 2½ & 4 inches, Variations, 4 inch barrel made with Square Butt 1968-1969 and 1969 was last year 4 inch barrel offered VALUE: $235 $145 Add 10 % premium for 4” barrel; add 75% premium of 4” barrel in 22 rimfire caliber; add 15% premium for matte-black finish MODEL 925 DEFENDER THIRD MODEL (TRANSFER BAR IGNITION)-----------------------------------------------1973-1978 Top Break, Double Action, 38 S&W Caliber, 5 Shot, Birds Head Grip, Blue finish, Barrel lengths 2½ only VALUE: $235 $110 the latest word from the publisher is the H&R book is due christmas time. bill
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Author: Iver Johnson's Arms & Cycle Works 1871-1993 H&R Arms Company 1871-1986 (due spring 2010) available from www.gunshowbooks.com website; iverjohnsoncollector.x10hosting.com Last edited by b.goforth; 09-08-2009 at 11:16 PM.. |
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Join Date: Apr 2008
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Thank you Bill. As always I appreciate the information.
I look forward to buying your book as a Christmas present for myself. Regarding the bayonet revolver, an old H&R catalog stated that H&R originaly intended them for export. But it did not say which export markets H&R targeted with their bayonet revolver. |
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Join Date: Feb 2009
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Likewise, this would make a most excellent stocking stuffer alongside a bottle of J.Walker Blue! I'm always entertained by your insights and knowledge Bill, thanks for all your efforts and I'm looking forward to getting my hands on the book.
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