Garand Loads using these components - The Firearms Forum

Celraysoda · 06-06-2009, 07:46 PM

By the persuasion of a fellow reloader, I was told to check with the masses of loads using these components for an M1 Garand.

IMR 4895
150 Grain Hornady spire point Bullets
LC / Greek Surplus brass
CCI #34 Primers

Anybody have load data? Starting loads?

-Thanks

Haligan · 06-06-2009, 08:01 PM

I load 51, 51.5 and 52 grains of IMR 4064 with 150 SP Horn. They all function perfectly. Accuracy for me was best with 51.

My Lyman reloading manual lists IMR 4895. Starting load 46. to max load 51.5

Lyman manuals are really good you should get one Celray.

JLA · 06-06-2009, 08:03 PM

I have data for those comonents using H 4895 not IMR

Celraysoda · 06-06-2009, 08:08 PM

I really should get a manual for this one. I cast and reload 9mm but haven't attempted the 30-06 springfield yet. All my brass is ready for charging but I definitely want to research and read up on this one.

The picture of the exploded M1 scares me a bit.

Popgunner · 06-07-2009, 01:32 PM

The Hornady twin manuals have separate loads for the Garand.

Remember that Speer states their military primers in both sizes should be used as Magnum primers.

The original M2 '06 ball loads with IMR-4895 had military cases, 150-152 gr bullets & from 49-52 grains of powder depending on the lot of powder. They ran at 42K psi.These loads were much milder than the origingal load the Garand was designed for-The M-1 load with a 173 grain bullet & 50Kpsi.

GBertolet · 06-09-2009, 01:56 PM

I have a CMP Garand. I have settled on 46.0 gr H-4895 for it because that's what I have on hand. I have tried some IMR4895 also with the same load, and it shoots about the same in my rifle, using the Hornady 150 gr FMJBT with CCI military primers. I have the Hornady manual, which as previously mentioned has loads for the Garand. I contacted Hornady and inquired what criteria they used to develop these loads. The response was one of their tech guys shoots DCM matches, and he personally developed these loads as no chance of bending the operating rod, while still giving decent accuracy. They are about 5 gr less than the regular 30-06 data maximum. They would not give me any additional details. A $45 adjustable gas plug would eliminate the bending of the operating rod issue with any load. Not legal for the John Garand matches, but legal for DCM.

06-06-2009, 07:46 PM	#1
Celraysoda Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Northern New Jersey Posts: 17	Garand Loads using these components By the persuasion of a fellow reloader, I was told to check with the masses of loads using these components for an M1 Garand. IMR 4895 150 Grain Hornady spire point Bullets LC / Greek Surplus brass CCI #34 Primers Anybody have load data? Starting loads? -Thanks __________________ Girlfriend: "Uh! Another gun? What is that ugly thing?" Me: "It's an M1 Garand!" Girlfriend: "Why do you need that?" Me: "For when the zombies come." Girlfriend: "Okay..." -->

06-06-2009, 08:01 PM	#2
Haligan Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: FEMA Region II Posts: 1,900	Re: Garand Loads using these components I load 51, 51.5 and 52 grains of IMR 4064 with 150 SP Horn. They all function perfectly. Accuracy for me was best with 51. My Lyman reloading manual lists IMR 4895. Starting load 46. to max load 51.5 Lyman manuals are really good you should get one Celray. __________________ "He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falshoods and errors." - Thomas Jefferson

06-06-2009, 08:08 PM	#4
Celraysoda Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Northern New Jersey Posts: 17	Re: Garand Loads using these components I really should get a manual for this one. I cast and reload 9mm but haven't attempted the 30-06 springfield yet. All my brass is ready for charging but I definitely want to research and read up on this one. The picture of the exploded M1 scares me a bit. __________________ Girlfriend: "Uh! Another gun? What is that ugly thing?" Me: "It's an M1 Garand!" Girlfriend: "Why do you need that?" Me: "For when the zombies come." Girlfriend: "Okay..."

06-07-2009, 01:32 PM	#5
Popgunner Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Contributor Posts: 1,764	Re: Garand Loads using these components The Hornady twin manuals have separate loads for the Garand. Remember that Speer states their military primers in both sizes should be used as Magnum primers. The original M2 '06 ball loads with IMR-4895 had military cases, 150-152 gr bullets & from 49-52 grains of powder depending on the lot of powder. They ran at 42K psi.These loads were much milder than the origingal load the Garand was designed for-The M-1 load with a 173 grain bullet & 50Kpsi.

06-09-2009, 01:56 PM	#6
GBertolet Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 48	Re: Garand Loads using these components I have a CMP Garand. I have settled on 46.0 gr H-4895 for it because that's what I have on hand. I have tried some IMR4895 also with the same load, and it shoots about the same in my rifle, using the Hornady 150 gr FMJBT with CCI military primers. I have the Hornady manual, which as previously mentioned has loads for the Garand. I contacted Hornady and inquired what criteria they used to develop these loads. The response was one of their tech guys shoots DCM matches, and he personally developed these loads as no chance of bending the operating rod, while still giving decent accuracy. They are about 5 gr less than the regular 30-06 data maximum. They would not give me any additional details. A $45 adjustable gas plug would eliminate the bending of the operating rod issue with any load. Not legal for the John Garand matches, but legal for DCM.

06-06-2009, 08:03 PM	#3
JLA TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Heart Of Texas Contributor Posts: 17,328	Re: Garand Loads using these components I have data for those comonents using H 4895 not IMR __________________ It takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 3 for proper trigger squeeze. The latest caliber or gear is no substitute for experience and skill. Rifles and cartridges don't make hits -- shooters do. Fact of life: After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!