Jasmine Tea = Temporary Insanity? - The Firearms Forum

SouthernMoss · 07-16-2003, 10:08 AM

Here's the complete story:

http://www.boston.com/dailynews/192/...inst_ma:.shtml

Basically, this guy goes on a rampage, breaks into a neighbor’s house and chases her with a dagger. His defense? He was temporarily insane, due to massive quantities of jasmine tea. The court actually bought this story, and the charges have been dropped.

What’s next? People claiming temporary insanity because they were under the influence of crack?

Personal responsibility is a big issue with me. Ok, so jasmine can be hallucinogenic. How about doing a little research before consuming mass quantities? How about seeing a doctor when the first few cups of tea didn’t help the stomach problem? How about realizing after that fifth or sixth cup that maybe it’s affecting my perception and maybe I should stop drinking it?

Come on! This guy was using the jasmine tea to get high, plain and simple. And when you allow yourself to be altered -- by alcohol, by drugs, or even by jasmine tea – and you screw up while under that influence, you should be held accountable.

Ok, end of rant.

07-16-2003, 10:24 AM

I seen that this morning SM, that is CRAZY!

I didn't think that "under the influence" was a defense

tuckerd1 · 07-16-2003, 10:52 AM

But, your honor, I didn't mean to kill that family of four with my car!! I was under the influence of alcohol and didn't have control of myself!!

1952Sniper · 07-16-2003, 10:52 AM

Keep in mind that this was in Florida. The same state where "I'm too stupid to understand the ballot" is also a good basis for lawsuits.

This ruling sets a dangerous precedent. Not only does it further do away with personal responsibility, but it allows mind-altering substances to be a good defense. Might as well do away with any further "intoxication manslaughter" charges. Because anyone under the influence of anything is now exempt from any wrongdoing.

Maybe now the BATF will start regulating jasmine tea, slapping taxes on it, and making it illegal to drink unless you're 21.

inplanotx · 07-16-2003, 10:59 AM

Dan White walked into City Hall in San Francisco in the mid 80's and shot Harvey Milk to death at his desk. Dan White's defense was temporary insanity due to eating too many twinkies. He all but got away with it. It is now called the "Twinkie Defense" strange, but true! Go figure.

07-16-2003, 01:47 PM

I have the perfect defense... "Your Honor, I ate a bunch of twinkies and drank a lot of jasmine tea!"

07-16-2003, 10:08 AM	#1
SouthernMoss Admin Tech Staff Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: SW MS Contributor Posts: 10,651	Jasmine Tea = Temporary Insanity? Here's the complete story: http://www.boston.com/dailynews/192/...inst_ma:.shtml Basically, this guy goes on a rampage, breaks into a neighbor’s house and chases her with a dagger. His defense? He was temporarily insane, due to massive quantities of jasmine tea. The court actually bought this story, and the charges have been dropped. What’s next? People claiming temporary insanity because they were under the influence of crack? Personal responsibility is a big issue with me. Ok, so jasmine can be hallucinogenic. How about doing a little research before consuming mass quantities? How about seeing a doctor when the first few cups of tea didn’t help the stomach problem? How about realizing after that fifth or sixth cup that maybe it’s affecting my perception and maybe I should stop drinking it? Come on! This guy was using the jasmine tea to get high, plain and simple. And when you allow yourself to be altered -- by alcohol, by drugs, or even by jasmine tea – and you screw up while under that influence, you should be held accountable. Ok, end of rant. -->

07-16-2003, 10:59 AM	#5
inplanotx Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 8,897	Dan White walked into City Hall in San Francisco in the mid 80's and shot Harvey Milk to death at his desk. Dan White's defense was temporary insanity due to eating too many twinkies. He all but got away with it. It is now called the "Twinkie Defense" strange, but true! Go figure. __________________

07-16-2003, 10:24 AM	#2
Zigzag2 Adnanced Senior Member Posts: n/a	I seen that this morning SM, that is CRAZY! I didn't think that "under the influence" was a defense

07-16-2003, 10:52 AM	#3
tuckerd1 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Paint Rock Valley, Alabama Posts: 3,147	But, your honor, I didn't mean to kill that family of four with my car!! I was under the influence of alcohol and didn't have control of myself!!

07-16-2003, 10:52 AM	#4
1952Sniper Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 5,138	Keep in mind that this was in Florida. The same state where "I'm too stupid to understand the ballot" is also a good basis for lawsuits. This ruling sets a dangerous precedent. Not only does it further do away with personal responsibility, but it allows mind-altering substances to be a good defense. Might as well do away with any further "intoxication manslaughter" charges. Because anyone under the influence of anything is now exempt from any wrongdoing. Maybe now the BATF will start regulating jasmine tea, slapping taxes on it, and making it illegal to drink unless you're 21.

07-16-2003, 01:47 PM	#6
Zigzag2 Adnanced Senior Member Posts: n/a	I have the perfect defense... "Your Honor, I ate a bunch of twinkies and drank a lot of jasmine tea!"