I looked at the Kimbers on that site. They have some TLE IIs but they are high. A store near where I live has the Stainless for $889 and the blue for $789. I just figured since these auction site and online dealers are country wide they could afford to sell them at a little bit cheaper price. The store I mentioned is a pawn shop and that is for a NIB Kimber. But of course they didn't have one in stock....they could order it for me.