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Old 07-08-2003, 09:56 PM   #1
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I am writing this urgent message because I was once a witch. I
lived by the stars as an astrologer and numerologist casting
horoscopes and spells. I lived in the mysterious and shadowy
realm of the occult. By means of spells and magic, I was able to
invoke the powers of the "controlling unknown" and fly upon the
night winds transcending the astral plane. Halloween was my
favorite time of the year and I was intrigued and absorbed in the
realm of Wiccan witchcraft. All of this was happening in the
decade of the 1960's when witchcraft was just starting to come
out of the broom closet.

It was during that decade of the 1960's, in the year 1966, that a
woman named J.K. Rowling was born. This is the woman who has
captivated the world in this year of 2000 with four books known as
the "Harry Potter Series." These books are orientational and
instructional manuals of witchcraft woven into the format of
entertainment. These four books by J.K. Rowling teach
witchcraft! I know this because I was once very much a part of
that world. Witchcraft was very different in the 1960's. There
were a lot fewer witches, and the craft was far more secretive. At
the end of that spiritually troubled decade, I was miraculously
saved by the power of Jesus Christ and His saving blood. I was
also delivered from every evil spirit that lived in me and was set
free. However, as I began to attend fundamental Christian
churches, I realized that even there witchcraft had left its mark.
Pagan holidays and sabats were celebrated as "Christian
holidays."

As time went on, I watched the so-called "Christian" churches
compromising and unifying. I also watched with amazement as
teachings from Eastern religions and "New Age" doctrine began
to captivate congregations. It was a satanic set-up, and I saw it
coming. Illuministic conspirators were bringing forth a one-world
religion with a cleverly concealed element of occultism
interwoven in its teachings. In order to succeed in bringing
witchcraft to the world and thus complete satanic control, an
entire generation would have to be induced and taught to think
like witches, talk like witches, dress like witches, and act like
witches. The occult songs of the 1960's launched the Luciferian
project of capturing the minds of an entire generation. In the
song "Sound Of Silence" by Paul Simon and Art Garfunkel, we
were told of seeds that were left while an entire generation was
sleeping, and that the "vision that was planted in my brain still
remains."

Now it is the year 2000. All of the foundations for occultism and
witchcraft are in place. The Illuminists have to move quickly,
because time is running out. It was the Communist revolutionary
Lenin who said, "Give me one generation of youth, and I will
transform the entire world." Now an entire generation of youth
has been given to a woman named J.K. Rowling and her four
books on witchcraft, known as the Harry Potter Series.

As a former witch, I can speak with authority when I say that I
have examined the works of Rowling and that the Harry Potter
books are training manuals for the occult. Untold millions of
young people are being taught to think, speak, dress and act like
witches by filling their heads with the contents of these books.
Children are obsessed with the Harry Potter books that they
have left television and video games to read these witchcraft
manuals.

The first book of the series, entitled "Harry Potter and the
Sorcerer's Stone", finds the orphan, Harry Potter, embarking into
a new realm when he is taken to "Hogwart's School of Witchcraft
and Wizardry." At this occult school, Harry Potter learns how to
obtain and use witchcraft equipment. Harry also learns a new
vocabulary, including words such as "Azkaban", "Circe", "Draco",
"Erised", "Hermes", and "Slytherin"; all of which are names of
real devils or demons. These are not characters of fiction! How
serious is this? By reading these materials, many millions of
young people are learning how to work with demon spirits. They
are getting to know them by name. Vast numbers of children
professing to be Christians are also filling their hearts and
minds, while willingly ignorant parents look the other way.

The titles of the books should be warning enough to make us
realize how satanic and anti-christ these books are. The afore
mentioned title of the first book, "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's
Stone", was a real give away.

The second book was called "Harry Potter and the Chamber of
Secrets", while the third book was entitled "Harry Potter and the
Prisoner of Azkaban." Nothing could be more obvious than that
Harry Potter books are pure witchcraft and of the devil.

This is the oldest con game ever hatched out of hell. As a real
witch, I learned about the two sides of "the force." When real
witches have sabats and esbats and meet as a coven, they greet
each other by saying "Blessed be", and when they part, they say
"The Force be with you." Both sides of this "Force" are Satan. It is
not a good side of the force that overcomes the bad side of the
force, but rather it's the blood of Jesus Christ that destroys both
supposed sides of the satanic "Force."

High level witches believe that there are seven satanic princes
and that the seventh, which is assigned to Christians, has no
name. In coven meetings, he is called "the nameless one." In the
Harry Potter books, there is a character called "Voldemort." The
pronunciation guide says of this being "He who must not be
named." On July 8 at midnight, bookstores everywhere were
stormed by millions of children to obtain the latest and fourth
book of the series known as "Harry Potter and the Goblet of
Fire." These books were taken into homes everywhere with a real
evil spirit following each copy to curse those homes. July 8th was
also the 18th day (three sixes in numerology 666) from the
witches' sabat of midsummer. July 8th was also the 13th day from
the signing of the United Religions Charter in San Francisco.
Now we have learned that the public school system is planning
to use the magic of Harry Potter in the classrooms making the
public schools centers of witchc raft training.

What does God have to say about such books as the Harry Potter
series? In the Bible in the book of Acts, we read the following in
the 19th chapter, verses 18 - 20: "And many that believed came,
and confessed, and shewed their deeds. Many of them also
which used curious arts brought their books together and burned
them before all men: and they counted the price of them, and
found it fifty thousand pieces of silver. So mightily grew the
Word of God and prevailed."

Harry Potter: 'Making Evil Look Innocent'

Issue Date: November/December 2001

What are kids saying about Harry Potter?

Here are some samples:

"I want to go to wizard school and learn magic. I'd like to learn to
use a wand to cast spells." Dylan, age 10.

"If I could go to wizard school, I might be able to do spells and
potions and fly a broomstick." Mara, age 12.

"It would be great to be a wizard because you could control
situations and things like teachers." Jeffrey, age 11.

"I'd like to go to wizard school and learn magic and put spells on
people. I'd make up an ugly spell and then it's pay-back time."
Catherine, age 9.

"I feel like I'm inside Harry's world. If I went to wizard school I'd
study everything: spells, counterspells, and defense against the
dark arts." Carolyn, age 10.

"I liked it when the bad guys killed the unicorn and Voldemort
drank its blood." Julie, age 13.

"The books are very clever. I couldn't put them down. When I
was scared I made myself believe that it was supposed to be
funny so I wasn't so scared." Nuray age 11.

These are the comments of young readers of the Harry Potter
wizard books quoted on a new video by Jeremiah Films. On the
video, called Harry Potter: Witchcraft Repackaged, Making Evil
Look Innocent, author Robert S. McGee explains: "Children as
young as kindergarten are being introduced to human sacrifice,
the sucking of blood from dead animals, and possession by spirit
beings."

Courts have banned the teaching of Christianity in public
schools but Wicca, which is recognized by the U.S. courts as a
religion and given tax-exempt status by the IRS, is taught freely.
Harry Potter has become the method of introduction of Wicca to
the very young.

Harry Potter materials have become much more than a hand full
of children's fantasy books. Warner Brothers, Coca Cola,
Minutemaid, and Mattel have used the Potter materials to
launch games, puzzles, toys, backpacks, and every possible
merchandizing product.

Scholastic, Inc., a major supplier of public school teaching aids
has added the Potter literature to its line of curriculum
materials. When the name "Harry Potter" is keyed into the
Scholastic.com web site search engine, it returns 268 matches.
"Jesus" returned only 23.

And now, a major movie is about to break on the scene called
"Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone." Millions of dollars are
being spent on pre-release hype.

Once introduced to the world of wizards, spells, and dark arts,
readers of Harry Potter can advance their knowledge and skills
in witchcraft and paganism by visiting the hundreds of web sites
available on the internet.

Or, they can purchase more books on the subject from the well
stocked Wiccan sections in local book super stores. Or, they can
find over a thousand volumes on witchcraft available at
Amazon.com.

Harry Potter books have taken the world of children's fantasy
literature by storm. Over 200 million have been sold in 40
languages. One study shows that over half of the children in the
western world have read at least one of the Potter books. Many
reported rereading each book several times.

But is it just fantasy literature like Snow White and Cinderella?
In the Harry Potter video, cult expert Caryl Matrisciana points
out that in the older stories, evil never prevails.

There are no absolutes in his world. What is right depends on
the situation.

Witchcraft now has a complete package. Starting in
kindergarten with Harry Potter and TV witch shows, children are
led on to the horror movies and hundreds of Wicca and pagan
web sites. When they thirst for more power, high school and
college Wicca covens are available. In the adult world,
corporations are hiring New Age practitioners to provide
seminars in sensitivity training, stress relief, and self
improvement for employees.

Former Satanist William Schnoebelen points out in his book,
Wicca, Satan's Little White Lie, that, "I finally learned in the
most graphic fashion imaginable that the difference between
witchcraft or Wicca and Satanism is actually non-existent."

Before he was saved he found himself cruising the streets
looking for a lone female to assault, not for sex, but to drink her
blood.

The bottom line is a hunger for power. Harry Potter and the rest
of witchcraft promises that power. But in the end they discover
that Satan is really in charge of the power and only uses it like
cheese in a mouse trap.

Harry Potter provides a basic initiation into witchcraft for a
whole new generation. Imagine what the world will be like when
they grow up.

Harry Potter: Witchcraft Repackaged Making Evil Look
Innocent

Millions of American schoolchildren have a new subject in
school: witchcraft!
Through the Harry Potter series, the ancient occult religion of
Wicca is being introduced in almost every public school in
America. This video explains how Scholastic Inc., the largest
publisher of children's books in the world, is supplying Harry
Potter materials to millions of schoolchildren. Scholastic Inc. is
using its unrivaled position in the educational system to flood
classrooms and libraries with witchcraft, repackaged as
"children's fantasy literature." Teachers are encouraged to read
the Harry Potter books aloud in class, and millions of children
are being densensitized to the dangers of the occult spirit world.

Through Harry's world of sorcery they are learning what tools
today's witches and pagans use -- supernatural imagination,
spiritual concentration, wands, brooms, spells and curses.
Warner Brothers new film based on Harry Potter has been
called an accurate portrayal of witchcraft. And indeed it is.

In this video, you will see how completely occult is the world of
Harry Potter. After reading the Harry Potter books, millions of
children will demand to see Warner Bros. new movie, "Harry
Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone."

Christian parents have faced a similar problem for years with the
teaching of evolution in their public schools. They have
responded by teaching their children that they cannot believe
everything they are taught in school. Now, with the Harry Potter
books on witchcraft becoming part of public school curriculum,
parents need to know enough about it to also teach their
children that the spell-casting and other activities of Harry
Potter are also forbidden territory. This video will help.

Harry's books are about a young 11-year-old generational wizard,
Harry Potter, who attends the prestigious 1000-year-old occult
boarding school, Hogwart's School of witchcraft and Wizardry.
All his teachers are practicing occultists, and tutor their students
in the dark arts of sorcery and divination: fortune telling,
astrology, potion mixing, spell weaving and curse casting.
Harry's world says that drinking dead animal blood gives power,
a satanic human sacrifice and Harry's powerful blood brings new
life, demon possession is not spiritually dangerous, and that
passing through fire, contacting the dead, and conversing with
ghosts, others in the spirit world, and more, is normal and
acceptable.

>From the web site at:
http://www.harrypottermagic.org/big_deal_hp_2.htm

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Old 07-08-2003, 11:28 PM   #2
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yeah I got this email about 2 years ago.
and its called fiction writing while it may be based on truths the writer of the books is not in some kind of witch conspiracy trying to turn all of our children into witches and warlocks and the like...
but you are entitled to your own opinion on such things so am I and thats mine
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It may not turn children into witches, but it may make some kids further delve into the occult. Getting into the occult can have devistating results. I have even seen Disney going that way for some time now also. With all the good, positive books available, why give your child something that may plant a seed.
Our kids are slowly being brainwashed with liberal and evil ideas from all sides. This is just one more example. I belive that parents should be aware of what their children are reading and being tought in schools and elsewhere.
Shizamus, thank you for your point of view on the harry potter series. I do belive we are under attack from many directions and we all need to bring up our children with great care.
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I totally agree that we need to protect our children. I think the brainwashing comes from more than just the liberals, and I know you did not state that, although they don't promote much of that think for yourself stuff. What of Steven King and some writers like that? Ernest Hemmingway's habits would have him be a bad influence on children, and Walt Whitman (whom I am related too) was quite light in his loafers and was crazy, but alas was still a greatly known and respected writer. Although I have seen sacks of camel parts drip better content than Harry Potter. I just think that we cannot limit ones freedoms to write things however crazy they are. And the occult is no laughing matter either. But I think anyone that teaches their children how to think well will not have a problem with witch craft, and if you explain to your children that the material is not for real and should not be treated as such. I think the writer of that email was taking things a little to far that’s all. It's a reminder of the red scare to me, while a lot of claims and things were true, some things were taken out of proportion. As a Christian I think that the Harry Potter series is a little iffy given the facts, but as a person that believes in the privileges this country warrants us I cannot say that J.K. Rowling cannot publish any material. To limit one person is to limit all.
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Shizamus, that cut and paste is more information about wichcraft than I ever wanted to know!

 
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In their day (1900-1939), the Oz books by L. Frank Baum were as popular as the Harry Potter books of today.

They also featured magic and witchcraft, but I don't see that that generation of readers turned into witches and warlocks.
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If you do not believe there are evil spirits out there working against you, then you are doomed to damnation.

Instead of teaching our children how to prosper in Satan's occult world, we should be teaching them about God and Jesus Christ.
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Amen Tuckerd1 ...
 
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Zig, I am with U on this one. Shiz an Josey, 1 an the same? Shiz Y not post up YOUR OWN WORDS AND THOTS, for a change? U must have a few?
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Sounds like a Conspiracy theory to me. Whew, Shiz ya got way to much time on your hands.
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This is the General Discussion Forum and granted, Shizamus participates regularly with posting 99% Cut & Pasted thought provoking topics.

In My Humble Opinion,

Let's all have a good time and share our personal thoughts and/or ideas...

or petition the Admin. for another forum, specifally for that type of S T U F F!
 
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The story of Harry Potter is written and packaged to look like
fantasy when ,in truth, it is a carefully written true description of the training and work of an initiate in an occult order.
The concept that magic is an extension of will is a foundational
occult truth and is diametrically opposed to the Christian concept of will where every born again believer's individual will is brought into submission under Christ.
Christians should be discipled that their belief system is the foundation of everything that they think, do and say.
THE FACT IS THAT EVERYTHING WE THINK, DO AND SAY IS AN
EXTENSION OF OUR BELIEF SYSTEM. IT IS DANGEROUS TO SUSPEND OUR BELIEF SYSTEM WHEN IT COMES TO JUDGING THE
VALUE OF WHAT WE GIVE OUR CHILDREN TO " READ FOR
ENTERTAINMENT."
The books teach situation ethics rather than absolute values of right and wrong that are taught in the Scriptures.
What is important to emphasize is that words have meaning and power. Words influence culture. It is impossible to read something and not be effected by it or learn something from it.
IT IS NOT ONLY FOOLISH BUT IT IS ALSO DANGEROUS TO DISMISS
THE INDOCTRINATION OF THE ADVENTURES OF HARRY POTTER WITH THE EXCUSE, "IT'S JUST A BOOK", SOMETHING WITHOUT A REAL AGENDA. tHE AGENDA OF J.K. ROWLING IS VERY REAL, SHE
IS WRITING TO INSTILL IN CHILDREN A FAMILIARITY WITH
OCCULT TRUTH, SHE JUST CLOTHED IT IN FUN.
For the non-Christian, there is nothing wrong with it, for the
Christian it is considered an abomination by the Lord (Deut.18)

Frankly my opinion on this Harry Potter subject is that it is total trash or garbage. And we need to safeguard ourselves from
these evil influences for the sake of our children and their children.
Not one dime of mine will go to support any of this evil
and occult sleaze!!!
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IB, Is that good enuff??? LOL!!
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"the force be with you"
witches are jedi?

My point is I saw this email (i said 2 years ago, but its closer to three) and from then to now I have seen no rise in the dark craft and children sacrificing neighborhood black cats etc. It has the potential to be a serious issue, but it still remains that after almost 3 years it is a non issue. I know it's bad to say this, but I knew when I first read it that only time would tell. And after all this time I have not seen any evidence that shows that Harry Potter books have made a significant rise in supporters of witchcraft. I do take things like this seriously, and when I first read it I was notably worried, but after looking at it for a long time and seeing NOTHING that would show this to be a HUGE problem I don't worry about it. I guess you can call me luke warm or whatever other poppy Christian culture term you want...
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Thanks Shizamus, I totally respect your opinion on this issue.

For a moment, I thought you were giving out complimentory copies. hehehe

jus kiddin' Shiz

And FN_Project90, you're alright too!

And Tuckerd1, you a Rascal! lol
 
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I'll just toss my 2 cents in here....

I've read a couple of the Harry Potter books. They're actually pretty entertaining. I did not get the sense as I was reading them, that I was being sucked into the occult world. After finishing these books, I did not have the sudden urge to sacrifice a human or drink their blood or anything like that.

However, I can see how it's possible that a young impressionable child might be drawn into this fantasy of witches and magic. If I had small children, I would probably not let them read these books. Watching the movie is a different affair, though, since a movie is going to be mostly entertainment without all the details.

I don't foresee future generations of witches coming out of this Harry Potter craze. I think it's just a passing fad. But then again, I think it is a very interesting argument about why they would push these books into our schools when Christian texts are banned.
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America's version of the Taliban at work...
Last I remembered there was a freedom of religion in this country.
If I want to worship a ripped up 12 year old left footed Nike sneaker, then I have the right to do so.
Why can't people just believe what they want to believe and leave everyone else the hell alone?
If more people worried 1/2 as much about their own souls as they worry about others, they'd be assured entry into whatever version of "Heaven" they wish to believe in.
Show me any section of the Constitution that says I have to believe in someone elses religion. Can't find it?
Damn, guess it's safe to go on reading those "devil" fantasy books after all.
I find it strange how some christians want to utterly destroy any view that does not follow lock step in their ways so let me pose this question to those christians in particular...
I am an Athiest, so using the same form of logic as I see christians using, do I have the right to demand christians stop spreading their beliefs to others and stop reading the bible?
Of course not. So why to the radical christians feel they have the right to tell anyone what they should or shouldn't believe, read, listen to or any thing else?
That's just my 1 cent's worth...Uncle Sam taxed me on the other cent.
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Evilahole, I stated my opinion and you stated yours. As a christian I am concerned about other's salvation. But, I won't be coming to your home and blowing it up like the 'Taliban'. After I say what's on my mind I will pray for you as you go your own merry way. It's your own decision to make beyond that. Have a good'un!
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An awful lot of kids put down their video game controllers so they could read these books...Anything that can make children read is a good thing.
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I have read all 4 books.

The first 3 are the best. I found #4 to be drawn out with a bad ending.

I did not in any way feel influenced towards evil or withcraft. I even tend to think it is the classic story of good agaist evil. In each of the 4 books good prevails over evil.

I also have listened to Ozzy Osbourne and Judas Priest without trying to kill myslef afterwords.
However playing pac-man does tend to make very violent and shoot at the neighbors (sarcasm intended)

And don't forget that if Harry Potter is evil then what about Snow White living with the 7 deviants and Chicken Little with his total lack of faith that permit him to believe the sky was falling, and I would be remiss if I did not mention the Salem witch tortures and murders of innocent people due to a riduculous fervor that was instilled in the population by the same sort of thinking that the original post in this thread conveys.

My point is, a person who is inclined to find evil in ANYTHING will find it. Harry Potter is a series of fantasy books and it should be up to the individual parents to decide if their children are stable enough to read them without going phycho.

My daughter has read all 4 and my wife read the first three to my 2 boys.

And by golly they still go to church and Sunday school, who would have imagined it would be possible after reading something like that? (sarcasm intended)


If people who read Harry Potter are going to become evil then I wonder why people who read the Bible do not all become good or join the church?

What a bunch of bunk.
 
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Evilahole, you're confusing the issues here. We all have the freedom to practice whatever religion we want in America, or choose not to practice any religion whatsoever. Nobody is saying otherwise.

But those who do practice religion also have the right to free speech, and they are allowed to come out and say how evil they think these books are.

I don't think anyone is saying that these books should be outright banned. That seems to be what you are thinking they meant. If Christians want to boycott these books, that's well within their rights, just as it's your right to boycott reading the Bible.

The intent of the original post was (I think) to warn parents of what their children are reading. If parents care about their childrens' religious upbringing, then the author advises parents to take the Harry Potter books away from their kids. Unless I just plain missed it, nobody mentioned infringing on anyone's rights.

I do, however, still pose the question as to why certain religious-based texts are allowed in our schools while Christian texts are outlawed. That's a double-standard and reeks of an anti-Christian movement in our liberal education programs. If people are going to outlaw religion from anything that might be even remotely connected to any form of government (or even funded by government), then the standard needs to be applied fairly.

Don't ya think?
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Well put Sniper!
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No offence taken Tuckered1.
Just trying to point out that even the christians hve an extremeist side just as nearly every religion (or lack of religion) does.
Condeming the belief of another because it differs from your own will make you no friends only enemies. (not directed at YOU in particular mind you.)
I've been an Unbeliever for many years and living in the south have also caught more than my share of flack because of it.
I've been told I'm going to hell for listening to Ozzy Osborne, for reading fantasy books, for playing dungeons and dragons, for asking questions about the bible I believed were contradictions, for having long hair, for just about everything I do.
I never went out to spread my beliefs or tell others that they were wrong for believing the way they do...I minded my own business and allowed the others to believe as they would. All I've ever asked for in return is the same consideration.
I admit, when a discussion like this comes up, I bear my fangs a little more, but it's a response learned from years of being reminded that "I'm wrong and going to hell for it."
PS Snipe...If I'm not mistaken the koran, the bible, and any other officially recognized religious text is indeed banned from schools unless I'm mistaken. The Potter books do not profess to be a religious codex of any kind...it's a book of fiction. The author isn't trying to get anyone to believe in a religious belief system.

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Old 07-09-2003, 04:28 PM   #24
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Evilahole, thanks for the reply. I've seen the things you talk of many times too. None of those things you have stated above will send you to hell. There is only one thing that will. If you every want to talk about that one thing let me know. I'm not a salesman. Just your brother.

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Evilahole, this one's for you.

And it's meant as a joke.... If you're offended by it, I'll take it off.
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