Mark of the beast?

[Juker]

Since long before our time, believers have pondered how the mark of the beast will be applied to those remaining on earth after the Rapture. antichrist will require all to take the mark in order to function in the new world order that will exist for seven years during the Tribulation, until Christ returns at the battle of Armageddon. Those who refuse the mark are guaranteed execution on earth, but a martyr's crown in Heaven.

What is this mark to be? A tattoo? Something visible? Some sort of chip? As we advance ever closer to the end of days, modern technology is providing many answers to things our ancestors could not comprehend in Biblical prophecy.

Looks like this might just do the trick...

http://news.illinois.edu/news/11/081...ohnRogers.html

[cycloneman]

To me rejecting the mark of the beast is to reject that way of life. Like living on your land and farming for yourself and supporting yourself. I cant see anyone who doesn't have land being able to do this. They are going to be dependent on the "system" to eat, sleep, live period. The "beast" wants total control of everything a man needs to live so man can't have free will to choose without consequenses. The beast will make us an offer we can't refuse.

And GE will lead the way. "GE brings the devil to life"

[Bobitis]

I think we need to be more aware the preceeding events.

Isn't the antichrist supposed to have survived a mortal head wound?

[jbmid1]

That definitely brings it a step closer.

[cycloneman]

Originally Posted by Bobitis

I think we need to be more aware the preceeding events.

Isn't the antichrist supposed to have survived a mortal head wound?

YOu mean the antichrist will be brain damaged?

I dont think your gona see the one who rules with the forked tongue till the
system is in place to rule your every move. Then the devil will show himself.

"Next time no more mr nice guy"

[Juker]

The antichrist will indeed suffer a mortal head wound during the Tribulation, and will be indwelled by Satan, and "resurrected". Unbelievers throughout the whole world will be amazed and deceived.

But, as this event occurs during the Tribulation (after the Rapture), I won't be here to see it.

[cycloneman]

Originally Posted by Juker

The antichrist will indeed suffer a mortal head wound during the Tribulation, and will be indwelled by Satan, and "resurrected". Unbelievers throughout the whole world will be amazed and deceived.

But, as this event occurs during the Tribulation (after the Rapture), I won't be here to see it.

Oh i see. Something like what happened to Giffords?

[Bobitis]

Originally Posted by cycloneman

Oh i see. Something like what happened to Giffords?

That's kinda what I was thinking. But she wasn't killed.
JFK perhaps? Who would believe it?

[The Duke]

Yep....Dur Fuerer shot himself in the head...stranger things have happened...

[Double D]

You know, you have seen obamas insignia.

[Python]

Originally Posted by cycloneman

The beast will make us an offer we can't refuse.

An offer that we must refuse.

[Python]

Originally Posted by Juker

But, as this event occurs during the Tribulation (after the Rapture), I won't be here to see it.

[Palmetto]

The mark sounds like it is tied to currency. They are unable to buy and sell... Anyone without the mark can't be part of the New World Order of the Beast and Antichrist.

It could easily be some type of electronic identification chip.

[Palmetto]

We all assume that we won't be part of the Tribulation events. That is providing we are raptured before the beginning. I see verses that can support a Mid-Trib Rapture. Regardless, things could get extremely bad for Christians leading up to that time. God allowed Hitler to commit many atrocities before he was silenced and it wasn't in the tribulation period. We Christians could experience some of the same horrors prior to being raptured, we aren't immune.

[HunterAlpha1]

at least some of us will go down fighting

[jwrauch]

Christians in Muslim and communist nations have been persecuted for years.Which side do you think Obamanation will take? JR

[308 at my gate]

Originally Posted by Palmetto

We all assume that we won't be part of the Tribulation events. That is providing we are raptured before the beginning. I see verses that can support a Mid-Trib Rapture. Regardless, things could get extremely bad for Christians leading up to that time. God allowed Hitler to commit many atrocities before he was silenced and it wasn't in the tribulation period. We Christians could experience some of the same horrors prior to being raptured, we aren't immune.

The first 3 1/2 years is a time of peace when the antichrist will fool the world. You might also notice that, just as God has a trinity so does Satan. The dragon who represents Satan, the Beast who is mortaly wounded and resurected just like Christ. Then there is the false prophet who is a type of go between for the antichrist representing satan's version of the Holy spirit.
Satan is all about deciet and lies, so that he too can be worshipped like God. Then comes the last 3 1/2 years of tribulation and God will pour out his wrath.
This is the reason that I do not believe that christians will see the tribulation because we are not met to see the wrath of of God for we have already obtained his mercy. Even the message that is sent out for salvation has changed and is no longer the Gospel as we know it today. Interesting subject to say the least everyone. Like it says a thief in the night. Be vigilant.

[Python]

Originally Posted by Palmetto

I see verses that can support a Mid-Trib Rapture.

Interesting. Which verses?

[Python]

Originally Posted by 308 at my gate

The first 3 1/2 years is a time of peace when the antichrist will fool the world.

The first 3 1/2 years won't be a time of peace, it will be a time of "fluctuating" peace & war. Immediately following the Rapture there will be total chaos and your worse SHTF scenario will be on a global scale. For instance, the invasion of Israel of Ezekiel 39 is just one of the wars to happen. Note that the anti-christ rides in on a white horse (a platform of peace) having a bow with no arrows. He will come on the scene as a economic & military genius, promising to solve all of the worlds problems and restore peace & prosperity. He wouldn't be promising "peace" if there weren't wars, anarchy, chaos, etc., nor prosperity if there wasn't a global economic collapse.

[Palmetto]

The Beast, False Prophet, and the antichrist are the unholy trinity. Satan always wanted to be worshipped like God. He will get his chance when God will use him to set up this world for the final judgement. The bible says that he knows that his time is short, so things could happen fast when he is unleashed and the restrainer is taken out of place. I think the restrainer represents the Holy Spirit. Once God takes the Holy Spirit from this world, all Hell will break loose literally. This could be the time of the rapture and the beginning of the Tribulation. We Christians are indwelt by the Holy Spirit when saved and if the spirit is "out of the way", it would stand to reason that we are probably too.

It is a fasinating subject to study and I am constantly amazed to see the world moving closer to this period. The signs are all around us.

[Palmetto]

The book of Daniel describes the Kingdoms of this earth through time right up the the end. The statue with a Head of gold represents the world kingdom of Babylon, arms and Chest of silver (Medes and Persian world empires), legs of iron (Eastern and Western Roman empires) and finally the last earthly kingdom on earth is described as feet of clay mixed with iron. Notice that both feet arise directly from the (old Eastern and Western Roman empire.) The clay mixed with iron could mean that this final worldly kingdom is brittle and strong at the same time. It does say that it covers the entire earth. The 10 toes could represent the 10 regions of this kingdom ie:The North American Union, Asian Union, Pacific Union, African Union and others etc. Or it could represent 10 world leaders chosen by the antichrist. The bible does describe it as having 7 heads and 10 horns. The 7 heads could be 7 leaders, one per continent etc. We will have to wait and see if we are still here when these events start to take place.

[Palmetto]

The two witnesses are the only thing that I have heard that might indicate a mid-trib rapture. They are killed after they finish their testimony and the world rejoices with a holiday similar to Christmas. They then are resurrected at the end of the 3 1/2 years. All of their enemies see them alive again and are fearful.

I have heard that these witnesses are Moses and Elijah or other teachers say that they could represent the Holy Spirit and the church figuratively. The testimony has been going on since Christ was resurrected until now and the church and the Holy Spirit has been the witness to the unbelieving world for 2000+ years. Once the last person is saved, then there is no purpose for the testimony and the work is done. The church age is ended and the rapture occurs.

[Juker]

In I Thessalonians 4 and 5, Paul describes the ascension of believers to meet the Lord in the heavens (the Rapture), and that the Day of the Lord will come "as a thief in the night". In Matthew 24:36, Christ says, "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only."

This is one of the principal reasons I am convinced the Rapture will occur prior to the Tribulation. If the Tribulation begins with believers still on earth, believers would be ticking off the calendar until the Rapture. They would know the hour of His return, and that contradicts the passage above.

"Come, Lord Jesus!"

[flyingtiger85]

Originally Posted by Palmetto

The book of Daniel describes the Kingdoms of this earth through time right up the the end. The statue with a Head of gold represents the world kingdom of Babylon, arms and Chest of silver (Medes and Persian world empires), legs of iron (Eastern and Western Roman empires) and finally the last earthly kingdom on earth is described as feet of clay mixed with iron. Notice that both feet arise directly from the (old Eastern and Western Roman empire.) The clay mixed with iron could mean that this final worldly kingdom is brittle and strong at the same time. It does say that it covers the entire earth. The 10 toes could represent the 10 regions of this kingdom ie:The North American Union, Asian Union, Pacific Union, African Union and others etc. Or it could represent 10 world leaders chosen by the antichrist. The bible does describe it as having 7 heads and 10 horns. The 7 heads could be 7 leaders, one per continent etc. We will have to wait and see if we are still here when these events start to take place.

Have you heard of our past Presidents attending something called the G-7 summit of seven industrial nations.Also the European Union appears to be slowly crumbling.Many of the nations are going bankrupt and wanting to withdraw from it.I think this will lead to ten nations in the end.Also 666 is on every item in the grocery store.In the bar code, two lines together represents the number 6.At the beginning,middle and end it's on every item.

[Python]

Originally Posted by Palmetto

The Beast, False Prophet, and the antichrist are the unholy trinity. Satan always wanted to be worshipped like God. He will get his chance when God will use him to set up this world for the final judgement. The bible says that he knows that his time is short, so things could happen fast when he is unleashed and the restrainer is taken out of place. I think the restrainer represents the Holy Spirit. Once God takes the Holy Spirit from this world, all Hell will break loose literally. This could be the time of the rapture and the beginning of the Tribulation. We Christians are indwelt by the Holy Spirit when saved and if the spirit is "out of the way", it would stand to reason that we are probably too.

It is a fasinating subject to study and I am constantly amazed to see the world moving closer to this period. The signs are all around us.

God will never leave the world without a witness, the Holy Spirit is omnipresent and always here. The "restrainer" is the spirit filled church. It's The Church that is taken "out of the way" in the Rapture.