1858 Remington 44?? - The Firearms Forum

SwampFox · 11-23-2009, 06:05 PM

Trying to figure out what I got here. My Dad always called it a Colt 44, but it looks like a Remington to me. My great grandfather carried this gun in the last century. Don't know the years exactly. There are no markings on the gun that I can see except a very small "c" in the brass in front of the trigger.
I appreciate in help here in identifying this revolver and figuring if its worth anything.
I'd thought about trading it for something I could actually shoot.
Thanks.

Oneida Steve · 11-23-2009, 06:31 PM

You are correct. That's definitely not a Colt. It's a Remington, or a close copy. Don't clean it. Take it to someone who knows Civil War guns to get it appraised. It looks to be well worn, but still worth looking at by someone who knows these guns.

CHW2021 · 11-24-2009, 08:55 AM

Have this gun appraised/valued by a pro; there may be a value that would surprise you !! This value is not a field for amatures. Civil war firearms are a collector specialty, do not clean or disassemble in any way prior to appraisal.My .02.

mrkirker · 11-24-2009, 09:17 AM

Ditto, to the above comment!
I once held a nice 2nd model Burnside, that had been cleaned with a Dremel, wire brush, and steel, converting a 'pricey' collectable into an affordable 'shooter'!

SwampFox · 11-24-2009, 07:11 PM

I sure appreciate the input. You guys think it is a 1858? It sat in my Dad's desk since I can remember. I am almost 61. I never saw it fired. Hasn't been cleaned in forever, I guess. My Dad died in '89. Any info would be great. And I will get it to an appraiser. Thanks.

BETH · 11-24-2009, 07:21 PM

i want to see a picture

SwampFox · 11-24-2009, 09:11 PM

Beth, can't see the four pix I posted?

SwampFox · 11-24-2009, 09:14 PM

I see 4 photos to start the thread. Here's a link and another stab at it...

http://img200.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=pb140044.jpg

hrf · 11-24-2009, 09:44 PM

It sure looks like a Remington but I don't understand lack of markings and serial numbers as doesn't look that worn. Google "Remington Society" and post your pics on their forum.

SwampFox · 11-28-2009, 04:34 PM

Had a chance to examine the gun a little better (and had found online where to look.)
The SN reads 61454

Top of barrel reads "PATENTED SEPT. 14. 1858
E. REMINGTON & SONS. ILION. NEWYORK. U.S.A
NEW-MODEL"

Anyone know a value or worth keeping as a collector's piece?
I appreciate any thoughts.

11-23-2009, 06:05 PM	#1
SwampFox Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 5	1858 Remington 44?? Trying to figure out what I got here. My Dad always called it a Colt 44, but it looks like a Remington to me. My great grandfather carried this gun in the last century. Don't know the years exactly. There are no markings on the gun that I can see except a very small "c" in the brass in front of the trigger. I appreciate in help here in identifying this revolver and figuring if its worth anything. I'd thought about trading it for something I could actually shoot. Thanks. -->

11-23-2009, 06:31 PM	#2
Oneida Steve Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 1,028	Re: 1858 Remington 44?? You are correct. That's definitely not a Colt. It's a Remington, or a close copy. Don't clean it. Take it to someone who knows Civil War guns to get it appraised. It looks to be well worn, but still worth looking at by someone who knows these guns.

11-24-2009, 08:55 AM	#3
CHW2021 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 467	Re: 1858 Remington 44?? Have this gun appraised/valued by a pro; there may be a value that would surprise you !! This value is not a field for amatures. Civil war firearms are a collector specialty, do not clean or disassemble in any way prior to appraisal.My .02.

11-24-2009, 09:17 AM	#4
mrkirker Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,067	Re: 1858 Remington 44?? Ditto, to the above comment! I once held a nice 2nd model Burnside, that had been cleaned with a Dremel, wire brush, and steel, converting a 'pricey' collectable into an affordable 'shooter'! __________________ *I don't know if dogs have a heaven, but there will be dogs in mine.*

11-24-2009, 07:11 PM	#5
SwampFox Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 5	Re: 1858 Remington 44?? I sure appreciate the input. You guys think it is a 1858? It sat in my Dad's desk since I can remember. I am almost 61. I never saw it fired. Hasn't been cleaned in forever, I guess. My Dad died in '89. Any info would be great. And I will get it to an appraiser. Thanks.

11-24-2009, 07:21 PM	#6
BETH Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: naugatuck,Ct. Contributor Posts: 6,676	Re: 1858 Remington 44?? i want to see a picture

11-24-2009, 09:11 PM	#7
SwampFox Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 5	Re: 1858 Remington 44?? Beth, can't see the four pix I posted?

11-24-2009, 09:14 PM	#8
SwampFox Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 5	Re: 1858 Remington 44?? I see 4 photos to start the thread. Here's a link and another stab at it... http://img200.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=pb140044.jpg

11-24-2009, 09:44 PM	#9
hrf Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,277	Re: 1858 Remington 44?? It sure looks like a Remington but I don't understand lack of markings and serial numbers as doesn't look that worn. Google "Remington Society" and post your pics on their forum.

11-28-2009, 04:34 PM	#10
SwampFox Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 5	Re: 1858 Remington 44?? Had a chance to examine the gun a little better (and had found online where to look.) The SN reads 61454 Top of barrel reads "PATENTED SEPT. 14. 1858 E. REMINGTON & SONS. ILION. NEWYORK. U.S.A NEW-MODEL" Anyone know a value or worth keeping as a collector's piece? I appreciate any thoughts.