Please explain "Position SUL" - The Firearms Forum

questor · 01-22-2010, 01:36 PM

sitting here with a few olives and surfing the WEB, I came across a video on SUL Handgun Position. It doesn't explain the reasoning, any ideas?

The weapon ends up pointing down, assume it is a defensive position?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLDvGhNaKOk&NR=1

golgiaparatus · 01-22-2010, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by questor

sitting here with a few olives and surfing the WEB, I came across a video on SUL Handgun Position. It doesn't explain the reasoning, any ideas?

The weapon ends up pointing down, assume it is a defensive position?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLDvGhNaKOk&NR=1

This is handgun instruction video not an X-Games commercial. What was the point of that music being in the background?

Screw that video.

cakes · 01-22-2010, 04:25 PM

The only reason to take your point of aim off the threat is if something you don't want to shoot comes between you and the threat. This can be done without the awkward arm and wrist motions. I don't know what this guy is trying to teach.

I second the motion to 'screw that video'.

Helix_FR · 01-22-2010, 04:27 PM

Yeah I'm thinking his actual audio would have helped.

questor · 01-22-2010, 06:31 PM

My Federal Officer (old squad leader) friend referenced me to the following link. He said "in a MOUT operation we are stacked, so the 2nd position to the next to last man has their weapon positioned down. Of course the last guy is protecting the rear."

http://www.tftt.com/articles/Positio...he%20Scoop.pdf

http://www.tftt.com/images/Articles/...y_Position.pdf

Agentwil · 02-19-2010, 08:54 AM

SUL for south was developed by the Chilean Army. It is a safe way to carry a pistol yet still be able to deploy quickly. The non shooting hand is placed flat against the chest and the pistol placed with the shooting hand grasping the pistol normally placed on top of the non shooting hand. This prevents “Flagging” your partners yet the pistol can be deployed quickly. It’s a good technique for “Active Shooter” situations where there may be many innocent passing closely to the officers.

graehaven · 02-19-2010, 09:31 AM

Hmmm. good to know, glad someone did.

the music makes the video virtually useless.

carver · 02-20-2010, 01:38 PM

Agentwil got it right. This is for military/police training when there are several soldiers, or LEO's, going into a house, or structure, that might become a bad situation. This allows them to draw their weapon and be ready.

01-22-2010, 01:36 PM	#1
questor V.I.P. Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Slickville, Pa Posts: 388	Please explain "Position SUL" sitting here with a few olives and surfing the WEB, I came across a video on SUL Handgun Position. It doesn't explain the reasoning, any ideas? The weapon ends up pointing down, assume it is a defensive position? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLDvGhNaKOk&NR=1 -->

01-22-2010, 04:25 PM	#3
cakes V.I.P. Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Northern Maine Posts: 230	Re: Please explain "Position SUL" The only reason to take your point of aim off the threat is if something you don't want to shoot comes between you and the threat. This can be done without the awkward arm and wrist motions. I don't know what this guy is trying to teach. I second the motion to 'screw that video'. __________________ If at first you don't succeed, shoot, shoot again.

01-22-2010, 04:27 PM	#4
Helix_FR TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Imperial, MO Posts: 3,624	Re: Please explain "Position SUL" Yeah I'm thinking his actual audio would have helped. __________________ Only cowards shoot with their eyes closed.... helixgunsmith.com

01-22-2010, 06:31 PM	#5
questor V.I.P. Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Slickville, Pa Posts: 388	Re: Please explain "Position SUL" My Federal Officer (old squad leader) friend referenced me to the following link. He said "in a MOUT operation we are stacked, so the 2nd position to the next to last man has their weapon positioned down. Of course the last guy is protecting the rear." http://www.tftt.com/articles/Positio...he%20Scoop.pdf http://www.tftt.com/images/Articles/...y_Position.pdf Last edited by questor; 01-22-2010 at 08:25 PM..

02-19-2010, 08:54 AM	#6
Agentwil V.I.P. Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 264	Re: Please explain "Position SUL" SUL for south was developed by the Chilean Army. It is a safe way to carry a pistol yet still be able to deploy quickly. The non shooting hand is placed flat against the chest and the pistol placed with the shooting hand grasping the pistol normally placed on top of the non shooting hand. This prevents “Flagging” your partners yet the pistol can be deployed quickly. It’s a good technique for “Active Shooter” situations where there may be many innocent passing closely to the officers.

02-19-2010, 09:31 AM	#7
graehaven Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 2,853	Re: Please explain "Position SUL" Hmmm. good to know, glad someone did. the music makes the video virtually useless. __________________ The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." - Thomas Jefferson RESISTANCE IS FEUDAL... PREPARE TO SERVE.

02-20-2010, 01:38 PM	#8
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,280	Re: Please explain "Position SUL" Agentwil got it right. This is for military/police training when there are several soldiers, or LEO's, going into a house, or structure, that might become a bad situation. This allows them to draw their weapon and be ready. __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.