Help please - The Firearms Forum

cjh7819 · 05-26-2009, 06:45 PM

I am trying to reload some 30-06 rounds and the bullets are sticking up in the die when I run the bullet and casing up into it. These are once fired casings that were run through the resizing die first. I have rechecked the casings and the bullets and the die making sure they are the right ones. I called a friend who reloads and he said he has never had this problem and can't figure out what is wrong either. I have tried adjusting the seater plug up and back but so far that hasen't seemed to make a difference.
Does anyone have any idea whats going on?

USMC-03 · 05-26-2009, 07:05 PM

Try taking apart the seating die and thoroughly cleaning it with solvent. It sounds like you may have some debris or excess case lube. Then start from the very beginning when setting the die up again. Can you tell if the bullet is going down into the case neck or not?

tim.sr · 05-26-2009, 09:13 PM

1st clean die. 2nd lube case but not to much.

cjh7819 · 05-26-2009, 09:44 PM

I can't tell for sure if the bullet was going into the casing but I really don't think so, there were not any marks on the base of it.
Thanks for the help.

muddober · 05-27-2009, 12:29 AM

My guess is that you have two things going on: One you are not seating the bullet deep enough and two you are not putting enough crimp to make it stick in the case to over come the bullet sticking to the seater plug. That problem may be that the bullet seater tapper is so close to the tapered point of the bullet that it makes a tight fit causing the bullet to stick. I had the same problem when I first used Hornady 750 grain bullets in a 50 BMG. Their long tapper made a perfect tapper fit with the seater plug and they stuck like the tapper fit in a mill head. I had to change the tapper of the bullet seater plug by turning it in my lathe thereby opening it just a bit. Also you should have no case lube at all left on your cases from sizing when you are priming, filling with powder or bullet seating as it can raise havoc with any of those three processes. I hope I have helped and not confused you.

Ron

jdon72 · 05-27-2009, 02:11 AM

I am sure you checked, but make sure the right caliber is associated with the correct die and not dif caliber bullet.

Freebore · 05-27-2009, 09:00 PM

My guess is that you may have not have fully resized the fired case, or you have the wrong (too large) expander button in the FL die.

Just a suggestion....

Lotsdragon · 05-27-2009, 09:25 PM

I too was thinking the expander might be too large, never had this problem so I am watching for a solution as well.

cjh7819 · 05-29-2009, 07:18 AM

Thankyou for the help everyone. Last night was the first time that I had time to try and reload anything again. I took the resizing die apart and cleaned it and then redid ten casings just to see what would happen. Started from square 1 went through the whole process again. They loaded up perfectly fine so I think I just must have had to much lube on them before. They didn't feel greasy the first time but oh well it works now. Thankyou very much.

05-26-2009, 06:45 PM	#1
cjh7819 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 137	Help please I am trying to reload some 30-06 rounds and the bullets are sticking up in the die when I run the bullet and casing up into it. These are once fired casings that were run through the resizing die first. I have rechecked the casings and the bullets and the die making sure they are the right ones. I called a friend who reloads and he said he has never had this problem and can't figure out what is wrong either. I have tried adjusting the seater plug up and back but so far that hasen't seemed to make a difference. Does anyone have any idea whats going on? -->

05-26-2009, 07:05 PM	#2
USMC-03 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Peoples Republic of the Pacific Northwest Posts: 1,825	Re: Help please Try taking apart the seating die and thoroughly cleaning it with solvent. It sounds like you may have some debris or excess case lube. Then start from the very beginning when setting the die up again. Can you tell if the bullet is going down into the case neck or not? __________________ Let not the rifles of good and free men be reforged into plowshares, but may they rest in a place of honor; ready, well oiled and God willing unused. For if the price of peace becomes licking the boots of tyrants, then "To Arms!" I say, and may the fortunes of war smile upon patriots. - Fortes Fortuna Javat -

05-26-2009, 09:13 PM	#3
tim.sr V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: MI. Posts: 290	Re: Help please 1st clean die. 2nd lube case but not to much. __________________ Tim.Sr U.S.ARMY VET.

05-26-2009, 09:44 PM	#4
cjh7819 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 137	Re: Help please I can't tell for sure if the bullet was going into the casing but I really don't think so, there were not any marks on the base of it. Thanks for the help.

05-27-2009, 12:29 AM	#5
muddober Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,436	Re: Help please My guess is that you have two things going on: One you are not seating the bullet deep enough and two you are not putting enough crimp to make it stick in the case to over come the bullet sticking to the seater plug. That problem may be that the bullet seater tapper is so close to the tapered point of the bullet that it makes a tight fit causing the bullet to stick. I had the same problem when I first used Hornady 750 grain bullets in a 50 BMG. Their long tapper made a perfect tapper fit with the seater plug and they stuck like the tapper fit in a mill head. I had to change the tapper of the bullet seater plug by turning it in my lathe thereby opening it just a bit. Also you should have no case lube at all left on your cases from sizing when you are priming, filling with powder or bullet seating as it can raise havoc with any of those three processes. I hope I have helped and not confused you. Ron Last edited by muddober; 05-27-2009 at 12:38 AM..

05-27-2009, 02:11 AM	#6
jdon72 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 340	Re: Help please I am sure you checked, but make sure the right caliber is associated with the correct die and not dif caliber bullet.

05-27-2009, 09:00 PM	#7
Freebore V.I.P. Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Midwest USA Posts: 265	Re: Help please My guess is that you may have not have fully resized the fired case, or you have the wrong (too large) expander button in the FL die. Just a suggestion....

05-27-2009, 09:25 PM	#8
Lotsdragon Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Potosi, Mo Posts: 813	Re: Help please I too was thinking the expander might be too large, never had this problem so I am watching for a solution as well.

05-29-2009, 07:18 AM	#9
cjh7819 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 137	Re: Help please Thankyou for the help everyone. Last night was the first time that I had time to try and reload anything again. I took the resizing die apart and cleaned it and then redid ten casings just to see what would happen. Started from square 1 went through the whole process again. They loaded up perfectly fine so I think I just must have had to much lube on them before. They didn't feel greasy the first time but oh well it works now. Thankyou very much.