Wheres He At Anyway ... ???

[SixTGunr]

Was catchin' a bit of the news last night which I normally don't get much time to do and they were yammerin' about that Zarkawi (spelling?) fella that is evidently in charge of all the terrorist groups in the sand box.

I think he is the one that was also in the beheading scenarios but then how do ya know for sure when they hide behind their hoods.

This clown is not even from Iraq but rather they said that he is a Jordanian.

What amazes me is that with all the technololgy that we have today they (as in the federal govt) can tell you ... the little guy on the totem pole ... exaclty how much change you have in your right pocket and what brand of underwear you have on but yet when it comes to one of the big bad boys ... they don't have the resources for that ...

Maybe its me but I really don't understand that or have I been watchin too much television?

Bin Laden ... Theres another one ... Why can't they find his tushie too ...???

With a $25 Million dollar bounty on Zarkawis head you would think that someone would jump on that one.

Maybe I will send a letter to one of those funny lookin' fellers that I have been seeing on the tube lately .. like "Dog The Bounty Hunter" and ask them why they ain't playin (like they do on tv) ruff and tuff bounty hunter and goin to make themselves 25 Million across the pond ...

Oh well ....

Six Out!

[azgunner]

Some thoughts-

High tech is a wonderful thing. It’s comforting to be a citizen in the most technologically advanced country in the world, with a wealth of assets at hand. However, low tech can often times be used with great success.
In point, simple improvised explosive devices are killing our service members at a disturbing rate. In Afghanistan (after the Soviet invasion), helicopter gun ships, notably the Hind series-the most heavily armored helicopter in the world- were defeated by Redeye and Stinger missiles. Missiles that were ‘only’ heat seeking at the time. Not a bad trade, really. A few hundred thousand dollars worth of missile to kill/disable a few million dollars worth of flying death.
In America, there are more ways to find someone than most folks think about. Try to remember how many times you used a credit card, debit card, ordered something on the internet in the last two weeks. Each of these actions can be used to trace movement of a particular person. This is not including phone/cell bills, utilities, etc.
In a decidedly low tech part of the world, most of these things are not available. When was the last time Usama paid the power bill? Having thought of some of these things, it would be very easy to actually pay these bills or conduct transactions through proxy- another person- or merely an assumed name.
Cell phones are traceable, and voices can be recorded and voice printed for locations. Its tough to print a voice if you hand someone else a note of what to say. Cell phones become tougher to track when you can get a disposable cell phone with cash.
The list goes on and on. Any number of methods can be employed to play to the weaknesses of technology, and the strengths of our enemies. One can hardly blame them. It’s what I would do were I in there place…
On a strictly political/cynical point of view, if we caught Bin Laden, we would have most of the no-spine countries (France, Spain, etc.) clamoring for a return of forces to America, and they would be much less cooperative in supporting our efforts worldwide. If we still have not found/caught him, no country in the world wants to stand between the US and our prey…
If you believe what the Bible has to say, they will receive their reward. “Just recompense…” If you choose not to believe, rest assured- we will prevail. We have in the past, and we will continue.
Not bad, really. One of the youngest nations on the Earth, and yet we have flourished more in that short time than nearly any other in the world.

aaron

I would love to see some feedback on this subject. Opinions?

[SixTGunr]

Points well made az ...

I never gave those much thought but understand what you have pointed out for sure as it makes sense.

Just kinda makes me think sometimes just how easy it is to not be found if ya don't want to be. Course .. eventually at times ones luck can run out but it amazes me how some can be a lot closer than the hunters think or realize.

Thanks for the informative response ...

Six

[Salvage33]

Good points on the use of technology and the way it can be thwarted. However, some points you didn't touch on....

The people in Iraq are members of a family, which belongs to a group, which belongs to a tribe, and are loyal to a mullah, imam, sheikh, chief, warlord, etc. Intimidation goes a long way there, and if someone is even thoughtto be disloyal to the family, group, tribe, etc...the repercussions are extremely harsh. As in terminal...and not just for the person(s) suspected of being disloyal, but for entire families.

Cell phone use in the Middle East is quite prevalent, but not all cell phones have GPS capability, and those that do, use of GPS is a user option. However, passing a note from trusted person to trusted person until it gets to the end of the chain is extremely effective, and defeats all modes of technology.

Using al-Jazeera television is another way that they can possibly be passing coded messages. Seems that when you watch that channel, you get the ambushes from the haji's point of view. So maybe that is their method of communication. Or at least one of them.

There was an Iraqi captured somewhere in the mountains north and east of Baghdad not too long ago with all sorts of written documents intended for al-Qaeda types in Iran. So it is apparent from those being intercepted that they are not all that involved in technological communcation systems. At least that incident supports that view.

It is my belief that the terrorist/insurgent types are receiving money/support from Syria. Baathist Party controls Syrian politics, and it seems that several of Saddam's supporters sought refuge there even before the first wave of bombings and cruise missle attacks were launched.

Now here's something to think about. How much do you want to bet that if we go into another Arab country that it will be Syria. Think about it. We have 100,000+ troops right next door, and with the Mediterranean Sea to their west, a couple of carrier groups stationed there could be enough to make them see the light of truth and cease and desist.

Iran also has to be a bit edgy with troops stationed to their east AND west, and the US Navy and British Navy operating in the Persian Gulf which forms their southern border. Couple that with the terrorist attack on the Russian school and they have Turkey and Russia on their northern border, which means that all those ayatollahs might be starting to wonder how to turn their head coverings into flags of surrender.

Putin has said that he'll use the same approach that Bush has...pre-emptive strikes at terror bases....anywhere in the world. So if the Islamo-fascists want to continue their game, they will have another army to contend with. And if anyone is so naive to think that a terrorist captured by the Russians will be accorded the kind of treatment that the "battle field detainees" in Cuba are enjoying, I'm certain that the remnants of the KGB could give the term "torture" an entirely new meaning.

Care to expound on my ideas?

John