White House's War on Fox News - The Firearms Forum

Terry_P · 10-19-2009, 08:04 AM

They are upset Fox fact checked them. Remember the fabricated news stories about Bush? I guess those are ok.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...ws-1925819282/

The White House escalated its offensive against Fox News on Sunday by urging other news organizations to stop "following Fox" and instead join the administration's attempt to marginalize the channel.

White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel told CNN that President Obama does not want "the CNNs and the others in the world [to] basically be led in following Fox."

Obama senior adviser David Axelrod went further by calling on media outlets to join the administration in declaring that Fox is "not a news organization."

"Other news organizations like yours ought not to treat them that way," Axelrod counseled ABC's George Stephanopoulos. "We're not going to treat them that way."

By urging other news outlets to side with the administration, Obama aides officials dramatically upped the ante in the war of words that began earlier this month, when White House communications director Anita Dunn branded Fox "opinion journalism masquerading as news."

On Sunday, Fox's Chris Wallace retorted: "We wanted to ask Dunn about her criticism, but, as they've done every week since August, the White House refused to make any administration officials available to 'FOX News Sunday' to talk about this or anything else."

The White House stopped providing guests to 'Fox News Sunday' after Wallace fact-checked controversial assertions made by Tammy Duckworth, assistant secretary of the Department of Veterans Affairs, in August. Dunn said fact-checking an administration official was "something I've never seen a Sunday show do."

"She criticized 'FOX News Sunday' last week for fact-checking -- fact-checking -- an administration official," Wallace said Sunday. "They didn't say that our fact-checking was wrong. They just said that we had dared to fact-check."

"Let's fact-check Anita Dunn, because last Sunday she said that Fox ignores Republican scandals, and she specifically mentioned the scandal involving Nevada senator John Ensign," Wallace added. "A number of Fox News shows have run stories about Senator Ensign. Anita Dunn's facts were just plain wrong."

Fox News senior vice president Michael Clemente said: "Surprisingly, the White House continues to declare war on a news organization instead of focusing on the critical issues that Americans are concerned about like jobs, health care and two wars. The door remains open and we welcome a discussion about the facts behind the issues."

Observers on both sides of the political aisle questioned the White House's decision to continue waging war on a news organization, saying the move carried significant political risks.

Democratic strategist Donna Brazile said on CNN: "I don't always agree with the White House. And on this one here I would disagree."

David Gergen, who has worked for Democratic and Republican presidents, said: "I totally agree with Donna Brazile." Gergen added that White House officials have "gotten themselves into a fight they don't necessarily want to be in. I don't think it's in their best interest."

"The faster they can get this behind them, the more they can treat Fox like one other organization, the easier they can get back to governing, and then put some people out on Fox," Gergen said on CNN. "I mean, for goodness sakes -- you know, you engage in the debate.

What Americans want is a robust competition of ideas, and they ought to be willing to go out there and mix it up with some strong conservatives on Fox, just as there are strong conservatives on CNN like Bill Bennett."

Bennett expressed outrage that Dunn told an audience of high school students this year that Mao Tse-tung, the founder of communist China, was one of "my favorite political philosophers."

"Having the spokesman do this, attack Fox, who says that Mao Zedong is one of the most influential figures in her life, was not…a small thing; it's a big thing," Bennett said on CNN. "When she stands up, in a speech to high school kids, says she's deeply influenced by Mao Zedong, that -- I mean, that is crazy."

Fox News contributor Karl Rove, who was the top political strategist to former President George W. Bush, said: "This is an administration that's getting very arrogant and slippery in its dealings with people. And if you dare to oppose them, they're going to come hard at you and they're going to cut your legs off."

"This is a White House engaging in its own version of the media enemies list. And it's unhelpful for the country and undignified for the president of the United States to so do," Rove added. "That is over- the-top language. We heard that before from Richard Nixon."

Media columnist David Carr of the New York Times warned that the White House war on Fox "may present a genuine problem for Mr. Obama, who took great pains during the campaign to depict himself as being above the fray of over-heated partisan squabbling."

"While there is undoubtedly a visceral thrill in finally setting out after your antagonists, the history of administrations that have successfully taken on the media and won is shorter than this sentence," Carr wrote over the weekend. "So far, the only winner in this latest dispute seems to be Fox News. Ratings are up 20 percent this year."

He added: "The administration, by deploying official resources against a troublesome media organization, seems to have brought a knife to a gunfight."

momo · 10-19-2009, 08:18 AM

Obama and his henchmen are like rats, they don't like the light.

red14 · 10-19-2009, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by momo

Obama and his henchmen are like rats, they don't like the light.

And roaches!!!

Deathbunny · 10-19-2009, 09:38 AM

This is a mistake. Not because Fox isn't the mouthpiece of the right-wingers. It is. But because getting in a pi$$ing contest with any network is a sucker's bet. It only does 2 things: 1) lends the network credibility and 2) makes you look foolish for bothering with them.

I mean, look at all the crap about Dunn referencing Mao Tse-tung. This is a good example. She said nothing about following the ideals of communism or about the deaths of millions of Chinese -- and yet that is how her statements are being portrayed. Remember, the media will not let facts get in the way of a good story, particularly if there's political hay to be made.

As an example: Newt Gingrich, also a Fox News contributor, quoted Mao in a 1995 Roll Call profile. "War is politics with blood; politics is war without blood," Gingrich said, citing Mao.

Or: "Karl Rove, another Fox News contributor, wrote in a December 2008 Wall Street Journal op-ed that President Bush "encouraged me to read a Mao biography." (Both quotes from CNN)

Cherry-picking either quotes or data is EASY. It rarely tells the truth, and NEVER the whole story.
See what I mean?

danniv · 10-19-2009, 09:56 AM

Trust me they are going to do everything they can to prevent FOX from transmitting the truth. It wont be too long before they try to regulate what can and cannot be said on tv

JohnBrainard · 10-19-2009, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Deathbunny

I mean, look at all the crap about Dunn referencing Mao Tse-tung. This is a good example. She said nothing about following the ideals of communism or about the deaths of millions of Chinese -- and yet that is how her statements are being portrayed. Remember, the media will not let facts get in the way of a good story, particularly if there's political hay to be made.

There's a huge difference between referencing or quoting someone and considering them your favorite philosopher. Dunn said the following:

Quote:

“The third lesson, and tip actually come from two of my favorite political philosophers: Mao Tse Tung and Mother Theresa. Not often coupled with each other!”

Not even close to referencing or quoting.

This whole game of the white-house criticizing Fox News at every opportunity is childish. Obama is acting like a spoiled brat.

4EvrLearning · 10-19-2009, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnBrainard

This whole game of the white-house criticizing Fox News at every opportunity is childish. Obama is acting like a spoiled brat.

He is not alone...Pel.osi and Gibbs are whining and demanding their way right along with him. The last such juvenile admin. was under WJC and Co., but if possible, this one surpasses.

Marlin T · 10-19-2009, 11:31 AM

And to think that NBC, IS; run out of the whitehouse.

t. appleby · 10-19-2009, 11:47 AM

Anytime government gets to choose who and how news is put out exclusively corruption, dictatorships and death follow.

Snakedriver · 10-19-2009, 12:40 PM

Well, the truth always hurts!!! FOX News has the only credible news and sometimes it is skewed. The other news agencies have all sold their souls to the devil for the sake ideology.

I live by the rule to believe only about half of what I hear.

Terry_P · 10-19-2009, 01:03 PM

John you are right. I have quoted Adolph Hitler "Fortune favors those who dare" but certainly do not believe in his philosophy of mass murder, extermination or world domination. In fact quite the opposite. Quotes are taken from context and applied to different situations as one chooses. Supporting a philosophy has an entirely different meaning and relates to the persons beliefs. Why do I bring up Hitler? Frankly I think he and Mao were cut from the same evil mold.

40CalJoe · 10-19-2009, 01:09 PM

Hussein Obama and his socialist thug administration are just unbelieveable in this tact. The real message here is if you openly disagreee with the administration or question them, you get black listed by them. I am certain the other kiss-azz news outlets saluted and said "yes sir".

Hardballer · 10-19-2009, 01:53 PM

What I can not believe is that the other nutworks are not up in arms over this. I mean this should have been like shaking a hornets nest.

IF they think they can do this to FOX and none of the other nutworks express outrage over it, I think we can conclude they are all compromised. And not just the nutworks. Print media should be running front page full page stories.

A war on FOX News? FOX is not a network? Not a news organization?

What the dearth of outrage and headlines from other media does is speak volumes about their complete and utter lack of credibility.

When I am at an IDPA match, I am in competition with others. On the street, I have their back. If attacked, I have their back.

I don't see that attitude here.

40CalJoe · 10-19-2009, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Hardballer

What I can not believe is that the other nutworks are not up in arms over this. I mean this should have been like shaking a hornets nest.

IF they think they can do this to FOX and none of the other nutworks express outrage over it, I think we can conclude they are all compromised. And not just the nutworks. Print media should be running front page full page stories.

A war on FOX News? FOX is not a network? Not a news organization?

What the dearth of outrage and headlines from other media does is speak volumes about their complete and utter lack of credibility.

When I am at an IDPA match, I am in competition with others. On the street, I have their back. If attacked, I have their back.

I don't see that attitude here.

If they are allowed to get away with this, the next attack will be on American Citizens who publicly disagree with Hussein Obama and his merry band of socialists.

Hardballer · 10-19-2009, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 40CalJoe

If they are allowed to get away with this, the next attack will be on American Citizens who publicly disagree with Hussein Obama and his merry band of socialists.

Yupper!

45nut · 10-19-2009, 03:16 PM

Bring it on

Hey DB,

If I ever name someone my favorite political philosopher, I won't be a radical commie bent on taking over the world.

She said one of her favorite political philosophers and one of the two people she looks to the most is China’s former tyrant Mao Zedong, who is responsible for between fifty and seventy million of his own people’s deaths. It can't be an accident that Obama has surrounded himself with so many radicals.

I'd like to know just how you plan to justify or explain defending this wacko. And she is the Communications Director for the Whi.te Hou.se?? You see nothing wrong with this?? Good God man wake up.

Deathbunny · 10-20-2009, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 45nut

Bring it on

Hey DB,

If I ever name someone my favorite political philosopher, I won't be a radical commie bent on taking over the world.

She said one of her favorite political philosophers and one of the two people she looks to the most is China’s former tyrant Mao Zedong, who is responsible for between fifty and seventy million of his own people’s deaths. It can't be an accident that Obama has surrounded himself with so many radicals.

I'd like to know just how you plan to justify or explain defending this wacko. And she is the Communications Director for the Whi.te Hou.se?? You see nothing wrong with this?? Good God man wake up.

Fair enough. Good question. The answer is IRONY. She was putting 2 very, VERY different figures together in the same statement. Yes, Mao was one, but the other was Mother Teresa. It was simply to make a point.

If I started a thread saying "one of my FAVORITE people, Rush Limbaugh...", that would be irony. I don't really mean he's one of my favorite people, it's a statement for effect. But, if y'all weren't used to reading my posts, and all you saw was that one line, you might think he really WAS one of my favorite people. See?

That's why I posted other quotes (Newt Gingrich, also a Fox News contributor, quoted Mao in a 1995 Roll Call profile. "War is politics with blood; politics is war without blood," Gingrich said, citing Mao.). Anybody think Newt is a follower of Mao? If you take stuff totally out of context you rarely get the whole meaning.

AL MOUNT · 10-20-2009, 07:55 AM

Der Spinmeister done stepped on his schlong this time....

This will be fun to watch

These small time Chicago hoods are outclassed and waaaaaaay

in over their little commie heads.

sabashimon · 10-20-2009, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by AL MOUNT

These small time Chicago hoods are outclassed and waaaaaaay

in over their little commie heads.

You've got that right Al, and it's becoming more and more evident every day (or should I say, every time one of them opens their mouth!)

And Deathbunny, there's one helluva difference between quoting someone like a Hitler or Stalin, or reading a biography of some murderous tyrant..........and that of claiming them to be one's favorite political philosopher!
Your response is typical liberal disingenuousness.

Terry_P · 10-20-2009, 08:37 AM

She's a follower of Mao, period. Mother Teresa was to give her a softer side. She'll oppress you with a smile.

red14 · 10-20-2009, 08:39 AM

I have qouted Hitler to prove a point. I usually use him in a shock/irony statement.
I have never said that I viewed him as my favorite philosopher.
There is a huge difference.

I think Barbra Striesand has a great voice. Don't like her music, but a great voice.
The Allman Brothers is my favorite musical artist.
Capice? Is that clear?

AL MOUNT · 10-20-2009, 09:23 AM

I designed this personally and it is available for many types of items.

red14 · 10-20-2009, 09:57 AM

That is an accurate analogy. The media wants us to know their truth, and why it is the truth.

I just want to hear, and/or see what happened, not their version of why it happened. I don't want their side. I don't want a side.

I want to see the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

2 million people marched in Washington because they did not like the way things are going. They were ignored, but the thousands of lesbians and gays were all over the air. Obviously there is an overt agenda.

Lori Mick · 10-20-2009, 10:11 AM

look at the ratings .....hehehe....

if Glenn can get 3.2 million viewers at 5pm....
they are a bit pissed off!!

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/16...690#more-30690

PharmrJohn · 10-20-2009, 10:41 AM

Got a question for ya'll, since the thread deals with Fox News. Now......one thing I cannot stand (I actually get angry watching) are people like Rush, Glen Beck, Sean Hannity et al. Not because of what they stand for.....but how they do it. It rubs me the wrong way.

My question is, and this has been bugging me for a few days.....Who represents the liberals in this manner? Not that I would watch them. They would create the same nausea and feeling of anger that the above named would. What channel are they on? Basically, where do the left wingers hang out?

10-19-2009, 08:04 AM	#1
Terry_P Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NH Posts: 2,513	White House's War on Fox News They are upset Fox fact checked them. Remember the fabricated news stories about Bush? I guess those are ok. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...ws-1925819282/ The White House escalated its offensive against Fox News on Sunday by urging other news organizations to stop "following Fox" and instead join the administration's attempt to marginalize the channel. White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel told CNN that President Obama does not want "the CNNs and the others in the world [to] basically be led in following Fox." Obama senior adviser David Axelrod went further by calling on media outlets to join the administration in declaring that Fox is "not a news organization." "Other news organizations like yours ought not to treat them that way," Axelrod counseled ABC's George Stephanopoulos. "We're not going to treat them that way." By urging other news outlets to side with the administration, Obama aides officials dramatically upped the ante in the war of words that began earlier this month, when White House communications director Anita Dunn branded Fox "opinion journalism masquerading as news." On Sunday, Fox's Chris Wallace retorted: "We wanted to ask Dunn about her criticism, but, as they've done every week since August, the White House refused to make any administration officials available to 'FOX News Sunday' to talk about this or anything else." The White House stopped providing guests to 'Fox News Sunday' after Wallace fact-checked controversial assertions made by Tammy Duckworth, assistant secretary of the Department of Veterans Affairs, in August. Dunn said fact-checking an administration official was "something I've never seen a Sunday show do." "She criticized 'FOX News Sunday' last week for fact-checking -- fact-checking -- an administration official," Wallace said Sunday. "They didn't say that our fact-checking was wrong. They just said that we had dared to fact-check." "Let's fact-check Anita Dunn, because last Sunday she said that Fox ignores Republican scandals, and she specifically mentioned the scandal involving Nevada senator John Ensign," Wallace added. "A number of Fox News shows have run stories about Senator Ensign. Anita Dunn's facts were just plain wrong." Fox News senior vice president Michael Clemente said: "Surprisingly, the White House continues to declare war on a news organization instead of focusing on the critical issues that Americans are concerned about like jobs, health care and two wars. The door remains open and we welcome a discussion about the facts behind the issues." Observers on both sides of the political aisle questioned the White House's decision to continue waging war on a news organization, saying the move carried significant political risks. Democratic strategist Donna Brazile said on CNN: "I don't always agree with the White House. And on this one here I would disagree." David Gergen, who has worked for Democratic and Republican presidents, said: "I totally agree with Donna Brazile." Gergen added that White House officials have "gotten themselves into a fight they don't necessarily want to be in. I don't think it's in their best interest." "The faster they can get this behind them, the more they can treat Fox like one other organization, the easier they can get back to governing, and then put some people out on Fox," Gergen said on CNN. "I mean, for goodness sakes -- you know, you engage in the debate. What Americans want is a robust competition of ideas, and they ought to be willing to go out there and mix it up with some strong conservatives on Fox, just as there are strong conservatives on CNN like Bill Bennett." Bennett expressed outrage that Dunn told an audience of high school students this year that Mao Tse-tung, the founder of communist China, was one of "my favorite political philosophers." "Having the spokesman do this, attack Fox, who says that Mao Zedong is one of the most influential figures in her life, was not…a small thing; it's a big thing," Bennett said on CNN. "When she stands up, in a speech to high school kids, says she's deeply influenced by Mao Zedong, that -- I mean, that is crazy." Fox News contributor Karl Rove, who was the top political strategist to former President George W. Bush, said: "This is an administration that's getting very arrogant and slippery in its dealings with people. And if you dare to oppose them, they're going to come hard at you and they're going to cut your legs off." "This is a White House engaging in its own version of the media enemies list. And it's unhelpful for the country and undignified for the president of the United States to so do," Rove added. "That is over- the-top language. We heard that before from Richard Nixon." Media columnist David Carr of the New York Times warned that the White House war on Fox "may present a genuine problem for Mr. Obama, who took great pains during the campaign to depict himself as being above the fray of over-heated partisan squabbling." "While there is undoubtedly a visceral thrill in finally setting out after your antagonists, the history of administrations that have successfully taken on the media and won is shorter than this sentence," Carr wrote over the weekend. "So far, the only winner in this latest dispute seems to be Fox News. Ratings are up 20 percent this year." He added: "The administration, by deploying official resources against a troublesome media organization, seems to have brought a knife to a gunfight." __________________ NRA and NAHC Life "Both oligarch and tyrant mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms." -Aristotle -->

10-19-2009, 08:18 AM	#2
momo Former Guest Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 300	Re: White House's War on Fox News Obama and his henchmen are like rats, they don't like the light.

10-19-2009, 09:38 AM	#4
Deathbunny Former Guest Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 290	Re: White House's War on Fox News This is a mistake. Not because Fox isn't the mouthpiece of the right-wingers. It is. But because getting in a pi$$ing contest with any network is a sucker's bet. It only does 2 things: 1) lends the network credibility and 2) makes you look foolish for bothering with them. I mean, look at all the crap about Dunn referencing Mao Tse-tung. This is a good example. She said nothing about following the ideals of communism or about the deaths of millions of Chinese -- and yet that is how her statements are being portrayed. Remember, the media will not let facts get in the way of a good story, particularly if there's political hay to be made. As an example: Newt Gingrich, also a Fox News contributor, quoted Mao in a 1995 Roll Call profile. "War is politics with blood; politics is war without blood," Gingrich said, citing Mao. Or: "Karl Rove, another Fox News contributor, wrote in a December 2008 Wall Street Journal op-ed that President Bush "encouraged me to read a Mao biography." (Both quotes from CNN) Cherry-picking either quotes or data is EASY. It rarely tells the truth, and NEVER the whole story. See what I mean?

10-19-2009, 09:56 AM	#5
danniv Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 7	Re: White House's War on Fox News Trust me they are going to do everything they can to prevent FOX from transmitting the truth. It wont be too long before they try to regulate what can and cannot be said on tv __________________ [url

10-19-2009, 11:31 AM	#8
Marlin T Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New Mexico Posts: 7,857	Re: White House's War on Fox News And to think that NBC, IS; run out of the whitehouse. __________________ "But the simple truth--born of experience--is that tyranny thrives best where government need not fear the wrath of an armed people." Judge Alex Kozinski - United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government. - Thomas Paine Did you read todays GOOD shooting? >>>KEEPANDBEARARMS.COM <<<

10-19-2009, 11:47 AM	#9
t. appleby Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 16	Re: White House's War on Fox News Anytime government gets to choose who and how news is put out exclusively corruption, dictatorships and death follow.

10-19-2009, 12:40 PM	#10
Snakedriver Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: SW. Florida Posts: 1,219	Re: White House's War on Fox News Well, the truth always hurts!!! FOX News has the only credible news and sometimes it is skewed. The other news agencies have all sold their souls to the devil for the sake ideology. I live by the rule to believe only about half of what I hear. __________________ Fear is a reaction..........Courage is a decision

10-19-2009, 01:03 PM	#11
Terry_P Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NH Posts: 2,513	Re: White House's War on Fox News John you are right. I have quoted Adolph Hitler "Fortune favors those who dare" but certainly do not believe in his philosophy of mass murder, extermination or world domination. In fact quite the opposite. Quotes are taken from context and applied to different situations as one chooses. Supporting a philosophy has an entirely different meaning and relates to the persons beliefs. Why do I bring up Hitler? Frankly I think he and Mao were cut from the same evil mold. __________________ NRA and NAHC Life "Both oligarch and tyrant mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms." -Aristotle

10-19-2009, 01:09 PM	#12
40CalJoe V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: In the middle Posts: 421	Re: White House's War on Fox News Hussein Obama and his socialist thug administration are just unbelieveable in this tact. The real message here is if you openly disagreee with the administration or question them, you get black listed by them. I am certain the other kiss-azz news outlets saluted and said "yes sir". __________________ *I will give hussein obama exactly the same respect liberals gave George W Bush: NONE.*

10-19-2009, 01:53 PM	#13
Hardballer V.I.P. Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Smack dab in da middle Posts: 471	Re: White House's War on Fox News What I can not believe is that the other nutworks are not up in arms over this. I mean this should have been like shaking a hornets nest. IF they think they can do this to FOX and none of the other nutworks express outrage over it, I think we can conclude they are all compromised. And not just the nutworks. Print media should be running front page full page stories. A war on FOX News? FOX is not a network? Not a news organization? What the dearth of outrage and headlines from other media does is speak volumes about their complete and utter lack of credibility. When I am at an IDPA match, I am in competition with others. On the street, I have their back. If attacked, I have their back. I don't see that attitude here.

10-19-2009, 03:16 PM	#16
45nut Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,433	Re: White House's War on Fox News Bring it on Hey DB, If I ever name someone my favorite political philosopher, I won't be a radical commie bent on taking over the world. She said one of her *favorite political philosophers* and one of the *two people she looks to the most* is China’s former tyrant Mao Zedong, who is responsible for between *fifty and seventy million of his own people’s deaths. It can't be an accident that Obama has surrounded himself with so many radicals. I'd like to know just how you plan to justify or explain defending this wacko. And she is the Communications Director for the Whi.te Hou.se?? You see nothing wrong with this?? Good God man wake up. __________________ A gun is a tool, Marian; no better or no worse than any other tool: an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that. Shane* Nemo me impune lacesset We recall the case of the Shoshone war band which showed up complete with one 30-30 rifle per man the week after Pearl Harbor, and simply wanted to have the enemy pointed out to them. "We hear there's a war going on and we want to go fight it." Jeff Cooper *KCCO* Last edited by 45nut; 10-19-2009 at 03:27 PM..

10-20-2009, 07:55 AM	#18
AL MOUNT Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Cleaning my Thompson in The Foothills of the Ozark Mountains Posts: 3,130	Re: White House's War on Fox News Der Spinmeister done stepped on his schlong this time.... This will be fun to watch These small time Chicago hoods are outclassed and waaaaaaay in over their little commie heads. __________________ 501st Parachute Infantry Regiment 101st Airborne Division Vietnam 67-68

10-20-2009, 08:37 AM	#20
Terry_P Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NH Posts: 2,513	Re: White House's War on Fox News She's a follower of Mao, period. Mother Teresa was to give her a softer side. She'll oppress you with a smile. __________________ NRA and NAHC Life "Both oligarch and tyrant mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms." -Aristotle

10-20-2009, 08:39 AM	#21
red14 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N FLA Posts: 3,916	Re: White House's War on Fox News I have qouted Hitler to prove a point. I usually use him in a shock/irony statement. I have never said that I viewed him as my favorite philosopher. There is a huge difference. I think Barbra Striesand has a great voice. Don't like her music, but a great voice. The Allman Brothers is my favorite musical artist. Capice? Is that clear? __________________ I never argue, I state my opinion, and support my position.

10-20-2009, 09:23 AM	#22
AL MOUNT Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Cleaning my Thompson in The Foothills of the Ozark Mountains Posts: 3,130	Re: White House's War on Fox News I designed this personally and it is available for many types of items. __________________ 501st Parachute Infantry Regiment 101st Airborne Division Vietnam 67-68

10-20-2009, 09:57 AM	#23
red14 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N FLA Posts: 3,916	Re: White House's War on Fox News That is an accurate analogy. The media wants us to know their truth, and why it is the truth. I just want to hear, and/or see what happened, not their version of why it happened. I don't want their side. I don't want a side. I want to see the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. 2 million people marched in Washington because they did not like the way things are going. They were ignored, but the thousands of lesbians and gays were all over the air. Obviously there is an overt agenda. __________________ I never argue, I state my opinion, and support my position.

10-20-2009, 10:11 AM	#24
Lori Mick Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Stuck in Upstate NY for a while Posts: 2,374	Re: White House's War on Fox News look at the ratings .....hehehe.... if Glenn can get 3.2 million viewers at 5pm.... they are a bit pissed off!! http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/16...690#more-30690 __________________ It's a Brand New Day! Make it an awesome one! "No one outside myself can rule me inwardly. Knowing this I become wholly free."

10-20-2009, 10:41 AM	#25
PharmrJohn Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Western Washington Posts: 975	Re: White House's War on Fox News Got a question for ya'll, since the thread deals with Fox News. Now......one thing I cannot stand (I actually get angry watching) are people like Rush, Glen Beck, Sean Hannity et al. Not because of what they stand for.....but how they do it. It rubs me the wrong way. My question is, and this has been bugging me for a few days.....Who represents the liberals in this manner? Not that I would watch them. They would create the same nausea and feeling of anger that the above named would. What channel are they on? Basically, where do the left wingers hang out? __________________ Life is a State of Mind.