what was this country doing when we got attacked the first time?!

[coreyacp]

1992 aden yemen hotel bombing two dead target troops on there way to somalia
1993 world trade centers truck bombing! 6 dead 450 wounded
1998 kenya embassy bombings hundreds killed
2000 uss cole bombing yemen what was it like 7 us sailors killed?
then 9/11 3000 dead
what took us so long to respond and stop it?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!? im pissed we had so many warning shots and we completely ignored them it feels like

[navis128]

I'm thinkin' it was more like 17.

Well when "we" got attacked the first time..."we" kicked a&&. I think it was 1812?

Historians please correct me if I don't recall correctly.

[coreyacp]

I mean by bin laden and his jihadist lil friends

[navis128]

Attention to detail Corey dear. Be specific...you're going to need that skill.

[coreyacp]

Im just angry ive been doing some research and im just mad.

[navis128]

We've been like that a long time, join our club...it's a historical club...been around for a long time...patriots shaking their heads in confusion...makes no sense.

[coreyacp]

Just imagine if we could got osama in the 90s instead of getting our black hawks shot down in mogidishu

[navis128]

Just think if we had of done a lil' resume' checkin' before we gave them weapons...I do believe they ended up in O'Laddins hands...and him being a what 28th son or something...not 28th kid...son.
I think he had abandonment issues as a kid...well there ya go...a real motivation for fathers to stay in the home.

[coreyacp]

Lol did you no he offered to repel saddams invasion of kuwait with his muihijidan army but suadi arabia turned him down and the us came whih pissed osama off

[navis128]

So with all this background you're learning about this scumbag, do you think you could talk to others in your age box?

He and his followers are twisted f*&%s that need to be eliminated, completely, with exteme prejudice.

[coreyacp]

I am. I have been doing the research for my persuasive essay/speech for my english clas and i choose the topic of the occupation of afghanistan im doing my best

[navis128]

With where you are, good luck with getting the first PP said.

We wouldn't be "occupying" that country if they hadn't asked for it...and they asked for it plenty.

[coreyacp]

I know. They have attacked so many times and weve sat back and done nothing :/

[navis128]

No...I think we sent the FBI there for a little bit didn't we...I mean at the very first...

[coreyacp]

Nope we did a fbi investigation in the us an asked the sudan to give him up to us but he then flew out back to kabul on his charter plane and then later we sent a couple of cruise missles and knocked out two training camps thats it till the invasion in 2001

[jack404]

watch our where your research leads you

if it gets to pakistan and the ISI helping a bring back to life a dead version of Islam called jialwahbism ( a side branch of saudi wahbism) then it could get awfully upsetting

'specially when you see where the dollars to fund that came from and realise there was a fully viable and friendly alternative already in place but they had thiewr own ideas on the war

they did not want the Soviets replaced with another puppet government

they wanted a free independant nation

that was the northern alliance under Massoud

after the Sov's left aid was poured into the afghan area and a civil war raged with the Taliban slaughtering the moderates in droves,

they brought in thier hate filled ways and draconian rules and banned free speach , music, women where property and could be sold as cattle are,

school where closed other than Maddressa's ( religeous schools teaching this hate filled anti west drivel)

any technology was banned but the big bosses had TV's and Computers ( 286's ) and started hosting training camps for anti western idealists and terrorists, also funded from outside and opium profits,

cheney went and visited them and waxed lyricly about them , a few others of the bush administration went there too and said all nice things about them but the real fighters of the soviet hostilities where cast aside

while the US realised they had been lied to,
they never admitted it

thats the way now

PC

never admit mistakes, just "move foreward", mistakes are "not core"
and all the other PC terms for covering up mistakes , then theres no blame

what was your country doing when attacked?

covering its butt and sucking up to the wrong folks is my thoughts

but what do i know

i only wrote a report in 86 on this

it too was ignored

i wrote another when aussie troops helped clear mines and where asked by the taliban why we support the US and where told they wished to attack you then

that too was passed on but ignored

we passed on films of them training and of thier retorhic that was so anti US when ignored the first time we gave it to our diplomats to pass on as we could not understand the militaries responce that you where not interested

so again i say covering your butt and playing PC games of denial

this is NOT the US peoples Fault but those who had the power but thought that they where so powerful no-one less than a soviet sized empire could be a threat

that was too cocky and arrogant
and the attacks are repayment for that stupidity and arrogance

but did the ones reponcible for this pay?

no the people working in the towers did
the sailers did
the embassy workers did

as usual the ones responcible got there pensions and retired quietly saying it was a shame and how it was unforseen ..

like hell it was.

sorry if this is upsetting but its all facts

remove the PC rules
remove the BS cover ups and denial

Turn the US and Coalition fighting men and women loose
let them kill every talib SOB there and in pakistan

pakistan dont like it , too bad.

kill the talibs without remorse
kill thier dogs
thier sheep
lay waste to thier villages
fight like it was WW2 again
civilians get out the way or tough times are a comin

and when there is NO talibs left

build a few memorials

build a few mosques to honour the innocents

and come home KNOWING NO group would ever have the balls to raise a stick against you ever again as the european powers learned

not this PC peicemeal pissing around your doing now thats only chewing up your people and ours playing this PC based all rules must be adhered too BS

WAR IS WAR

show em what a real war is and finish the mongrels

and learn from your mistakes as fighting this way is just another mistake that will be glossed over if not adressed soon


either fight correctly or get set to write songs like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zI9uZQYTLY


cheers

jack

[navis128]

Jack - Here, here.

[coreyacp]

Originally Posted by jack404

watch our where your research leads you

if iot gets to pakistan and the ISI helping a bring back to life a dead version of Islam called wahbism then it could get awfully upsetting

'specially when you see where the dollars to fund that came from and realise there was a fully viable and friendly alternative already in place but theyb had thiewr own ideas on the war

they did not want the Soviets replaced with another puppet government

they wanted a free independant nation

that was the northern alliance under Massoud

after the Sov's left aid was poured into the afghan area and a civil war raged with the Taliban slaughtering the moderates in droves,

they brought inthier hate filled ways and draconian rules and n\banned free speach , music, women where property and could be sold as cattle are
school where closed other than Maddressa's ( religeous schools teaching this hate filled anti west drivel) any technology was banned but the big bosses had TV's and Computers ( 286's ) and started hosting training camps for anti western idealists and terrorists, also funded from outside and opium profits,

cheney went and visited them and waxed lyricly about them , a few others of tyhe bush administration went there too and said all nice things about them but the real fighters of the soviet hostilities where cast aside

while the US realised they had been lied to they never admitted it

thats the way now

PC

never admit mistakes, just "move foreward", mistakes are "not core" and all the other PC terms for covering up mistakes , then theres no blame

what was your country doing when attacked?

covering its butt and sucking up to the wrong folks is my thoughts

but what do i know

i only wrote a report in 86 on this

it too was ignored

i wrote another when aussie troops helped clear mines and where asked by the taliban why we support the US and where told they wished to attack you then

that too was passed on but ignored

we passed on films of them training and of thier retorhic that was so anti US when ignored the first time we gave it to our diplomats to pass on as we could not understand the militaries responce that you where not interested

so again i say covering your butt and playing PC games of denial

this is NOT the US peoples Fault but those who had the power but thought that they where so powerful no-one less than a soviet sized empire could be a threat

that was too cocky and arrogant
and the attacks are repayment for that stupidity and arrogance

but did the ones reponcible for this pay?

no the people working in the towers did
the sailers did
the embassy workers did

as usual the ones responcible got there pensions and retired quietly saying it was a shame and how it was unforseen .. like hell it was.

sorry if this is upsetting but its all facts

remove the PC rules
remove the BS cover ups and denial

Turn the US and Coalition fighting men and women loose
let them kill every talib SOB there and in pakistan

pakistan dont like it , too bad.

kill the talibs without remorse
kill thier dogs
thier sheep
lay waste to thier villages
fight like it was WW2 again
civilians get out the way or tough times are a comin

and when there is NO tolibs left

build a few memorials

build a few mosques to honour the innocents

and come home KNOWING NO group would ever have the balls to raise a stick against you ever again as the european powers learned

not this PC peicemeal pissing around your doing now thats only chewing up your people and ours playing this PC based all rules must be adhered too BS

WAR IS WAR

show em what a real war is and finish the mongrels

and learn from your mistakes as fighting this way is just another mistake that will be glossed over if not adressed soon

cheers

jack

Jack 100 percent agree i was even reading on how the isi pakistans secret service was openly supporting osama with funds right up to 9/11 friken pakistan is a huge problem to

[jack404]

and a bit past then too

manufactue date on this ( white phos mortar round ) was 10/2001

Made in the USA

lobbed at the Australian firebase at Tarin Kowt Afghanistan

4 / 2003 and not shipped to Pakistan until 1/2003

figure it.. i was a civilian "advisor" on that trip

but still playing with UXO and IED's between trips to Cambodia

the guy your looking at was killed defusing a IED 2008

the fuse looks like it was a US artillery round delayed action fuse

one of the NEW ones post 2006 issue

support for the talibs is religion based as they think they can win

we have to show em its a dead end

by making them dead.

[coreyacp]

Jack you are my idol dude you kick ***

[jack404]

Originally Posted by coreyacp

Jack you are my idol dude you kick ***

I realise your only starting out and thats great ..
once you've been in a while you'll realise that is so far off..

i just dont have a issue talkin unlike some

its all i'm good for now days, too much nerve damage , too old, too many cigarettes and beers waiting to get the nerves operated on again and again till they cant patch em up no more so now i get jitters in my right hand , dunno when they'll start or stop.. not good for bomb work eh

i turned 53 this week and in 11 days the 8th anniversary of them kickin my arse and eventually making me a civilian .. think about it ..

some days you kick them

some days they kick you

its all just another day in the end

cheers

jack

[Marlin T]

Originally Posted by Marlin T

For those military history buffs, I thought this is a must have. This report contains every instance that our military has been deployed, to the best of my limited knowledge.

Click >>>HERE<<< to get the report.

Here is some history for you all.

Corey, check out Michael Yon's site. http://www.michaelyon-online.com/ind...fog+of&x=4&y=6

[jack404]

Marlin, i can vouch for Mr Yon's cred's

Got a email from him after a post i made on the SF's forum

asked me to pop in every now and again when i could

i did one about my last trip

a overwatch contract ( road side bomber hunting )

for a large convoy headed to a dam to install a electrical tubine generator

some of my pics are in this and i did make a comment when i was able

i was sending him pics for a couple years now he's got others doing likewise and from thier words he publishes his stories

never makes them exciting never underrplays them either

one jounalist type i admire

is he a journalist? or just a advanced blogger?

either way he tells it like it is in a good honest way

not enough like him and thanks for raising his site here

it totally slipped my mind

thanks eh

cheers

jack

in another thread you ask about funny stories

in this pic you'll see eveyone diving for the dirt or under trucks as a "sniper" had taken a shot on them

it was actually a eagle that had dropped a ration tin it had stolen from my spotter and flew off with

the eagle dropped the tin from maybe 50 meters height and it hit a vehicle

we laughed anyway the poor brits and US troops below probably did not feel like lauging as there had been a few snipers that trip

[wpage]

So what is the final solution...

[jack404]

remove all political interference from the war

disregard all the PC rules made to date

pull half the troops home for retraining and rest for 6 months then send em back, 2 months over lap and bring the rest home and do likewise

put the rest into advance to contact mode

also known and seek and destroy

shoot the CIA analysts if they want to play games, they are intel people not political tools , if they want to suplicate the afghan government, shoot them.

use your technology to spot, track and monitor known insurgents and everywhere they go , hit and hit hard, let them run around but hit where they go
EMP thier Comms if you have to, but stop them communicating

cut them off from resupply ( get the afghans to block the borders a man every 20 meters if they have to but do it)

then bleed them
until theres nothing left

if the ones in pakistan want to come in , let em

let em walk into a wall of fire and lead

WW2 all over again

but with better tools and info and realtime situational awareness on our side

but i was just a SGT not a general

so..

cheers

jack