Illinois Assault Weapons Ban - The Firearms Forum

gvw3 · 08-01-2012, 06:04 AM

The Chicago Democrat used his amendatory veto power to gut a bill related to ammunition sales and add language prohibiting the manufacture, delivery, sale and possession of semi-automatic assault weapons and attachments. Illinois lawmakers could accept or override the changes, or not call a vote at all.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1724835.html

Our non elected governor is at it again.

Zhurh · 08-01-2012, 06:19 AM

Aren't there several gun manufacturers in Ill?

carver · 08-01-2012, 06:21 AM

That's just what the murder capital of the world needs, more anit-gun legislation! I bet the criminals who have these banned guns will turn them in right away!

gvw3 · 08-01-2012, 07:15 AM

Springfield Armory, Inc. is one.

Illinois government could care less about jobs. Just give everybody food stamps and welfare.

Double D · 08-01-2012, 07:26 AM

Typical liberal response to the problem. Never really tackle the real issues at hand. Always strip the honest citizens of their rights and create more kill zones. Then they scream they need more money for more police. Liberals are so flippin stupid its pathetic. I hope criminals hit his house.

ampaterry · 08-01-2012, 07:39 AM

The liberal lawmakers that make these stupid moves have nothing to worry about from criminals, Dan - they ALL have very well armed men guarding them and their families.
Being unarmed victims of crime is the job of us little people, not our benevolent leaders.

Juker · 08-01-2012, 07:41 AM

Gun restrictions in Illinois have proved to be a major success, clearly evidenced by the 38% murder rate increase in Chicago:

http://www.examiner.com/article/chic...ate-up-38-2012

28 and a wakeup. Me and mine are outta this state forever. Somebody dies, somebody gets married, we'll send flowers - but I will never set foot in Illinois again.

HAGEN442 · 08-01-2012, 08:27 AM

Just another Foolish Obama Pawn doing the " Talk the Talk"

Sounds like the Crimes Bosses are becoming a lot more concerned aboutthe number of citizens
"Shooting Back"

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gvw3 · 08-01-2012, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Juker

Gun restrictions in Illinois have proved to be a major success, clearly evidenced by the 38% murder rate increase in Chicago:

http://www.examiner.com/article/chic...ate-up-38-2012

28 and a wakeup. Me and mine are outta this state forever. Somebody dies, somebody gets married, we'll send flowers - but I will never set foot in Illinois again.

Juker you still in Illinois? I thought you got out of her a few months ago. I would love to get out of this state myself.

ryan42 · 08-01-2012, 04:54 PM

Hey george i think you would be alot happier moving one state to the east so you can enjoy the weapons you want.But I know you cant its just a shame illinois is that way.

gvw3 · 08-01-2012, 05:57 PM

Governor Quinn violates U.S. and Illinois constitutions simultaneously

http://www.examiner.com/article/gove...simultaneously

This governor just cost the state a lot of revenue do to this purely political move.

Ryan I wish I could get out of this state. Someday.

millwright · 08-01-2012, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Zhurh

Aren't there several gun manufacturers in Ill?

A couple have already moved. I suspect this will make the rest follow ! But, WTH, what's the loss of skilled jobs and tax revenues when PCism stands to the fore ? (Bureaucrats always think their jobs are invulnerable ) ! >MW

Gun Geezer · 08-01-2012, 10:50 PM

The Chicago thugs (politicians) have a long and proud history of ignoring or violating the Constitution. They have ignored their Constitutionally mandated responsibility to fund their share of the teachers retirement pension fund for so long they are billions of dollars in arrears. The interest alone on the money they have to borrow to pay their retirement obligations amounts to 35% of their annual budget, and all they can come up with for a fix is hand-wringing, finger pointing, tax increases and threats of cutting Constitutionally guaranteed pension benefits, insurance and cost of living adjustments for teachers who, in good faith, paid their share for, in most cases, 38 years of service, longer than any other civil service occupation.
Their attitude is to make the cuts and let the teachers file law suits letting the courts decide on the Constitutionality of the move. Meanwhile, the money they will save by not contributing their share will line their pockets. The Federal Government needs to step in and make them follow the Constitution, but I forget, Obozo learned all his tricks from the Chicago Democratic Machine.

mogunner · 08-01-2012, 11:42 PM

Come over the line here in Missouri, we'd love to have ya here. We're shall issue on CCW, a lot of the cities are starting to have bowhunting inside city limits on deer, and we can hunt deer with a rifle that has a max of a ten round mag. Them dang vehicle inspections are a small price to pay IMHO!

gvw3 · 08-02-2012, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by mogunner

Come over the line here in Missouri, we'd love to have ya here. We're shall issue on CCW, a lot of the cities are starting to have bowhunting inside city limits on deer, and we can hunt deer with a rifle that has a max of a ten round mag. Them dang vehicle inspections are a small price to pay IMHO!

Mogunner I have a best friend that lives in Farmington. I was just down to Mountain Grove For bobskis TFF shoot in MO. I like it down there. Problem is I have a good job here.

hogger129 · 08-02-2012, 06:56 AM

In Wisconsin, you can get a CCW, you can carry in the car if you have one, open carry legal with no permit, you can hunt with 10-round magazine (no rifle hunting in Dane Country though). No stupid assault weapon laws.

Double D · 08-02-2012, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by gvw3

Mogunner I have a best friend that lives in Farmington. I was just down to Mountain Grove For bobskis TFF shoot in MO. I like it down there. Problem is I have a good job here.

I respect your decision to stay with your "good job". But in my world, I wont even travel to a state that wont allow me to protect my family and 500 dollars an hour wouldnt get me up there. But, we all have to do what we have to do. I would rather work minimum wage in a place I wanted to live.

BikerNut · 08-02-2012, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Zhurh

Aren't there several gun manufacturers in Ill?

Armalite
Geneseo IL

DSA
Barrington IL

Krebs Custom Inc
Wauconda IL

Les Baer Custom Inc
Hillsdale, IL

Lewis Machine & Tool
Moline IL

Rock River Arms
Colona IL

Springfield Armory
Geneseo IL

Illinois has a lot of river cities, and river cities have a long history of firearms manufacturing (as well as manufacturing of every kind).

I used to love living here. Now I can't wait to get out.

CCHolderinMaine · 08-02-2012, 09:01 AM

A suggestion to the fine folks of Illinois: Wall off Chicago and set it free...the 51st state. They can ban guns, mandate foodstamps, or just support the entire liberal agenda. The remainder can live free, governed by the constitution.

Deputy Dawg · 08-02-2012, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by carver

That's just what the murder capital of the world needs, more anit-gun legislation! I bet the criminals who have these banned guns will turn them in right away!

You know they will.................NOT. Gun laws do not affect them and we all know it .Our ellected officials know it also but it is more about people control than gun control.

Double D · 08-02-2012, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Deputy Dawg

You know they will.................NOT. Gun laws do not affect them and we all know it .Our ellected officials know it also but it is more about people control than gun control.

No, our liberal elected officials do not know it. They actually still believe that if you disarm the honest public, you make the world a safer place. This is why liberalism is such a dangerous mental disorder and should be treated as such. They are so twisted on so many issues, they can not see or understand reason. It is impossible to penetrate their illness.

gvw3 · 08-02-2012, 04:30 PM

All the news story's I have read on this have a section for comments. The comments are all very pro gun for the most part. You get a few lib's.

This governor is not up for election this year. To bad for that. I think this election will be a wake up call for the Democrats. Illinois people are fed up with all this. Chicago's welfare folks can't carry the state.

08-01-2012, 06:04 AM	#1
gvw3 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Chicago IL Area Contributor Posts: 3,247	Illinois Assault Weapons Ban The Chicago Democrat used his amendatory veto power to gut a bill related to ammunition sales and add language prohibiting the manufacture, delivery, sale and possession of semi-automatic assault weapons and attachments. Illinois lawmakers could accept or override the changes, or not call a vote at all. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1724835.html Our non elected governor is at it again. __________________ Criminals advocate stronger gun laws to foster a safer work environment. This limits their exposure to risk. -->

08-01-2012, 06:19 AM	#2
Zhurh Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Upper Yukon, Alaska Posts: 1,808	Re: Illinois Assault Weapons Ban Aren't there several gun manufacturers in Ill?

08-01-2012, 06:21 AM	#3
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,221	Re: Illinois Assault Weapons Ban That's just what the murder capital of the world needs, more anit-gun legislation! I bet the criminals who have these banned guns will turn them in right away! __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.

08-01-2012, 07:15 AM	#4
gvw3 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Chicago IL Area Contributor Posts: 3,247	Re: Illinois Assault Weapons Ban Springfield Armory, Inc. is one. Illinois government could care less about jobs. Just give everybody food stamps and welfare. __________________ Criminals advocate stronger gun laws to foster a safer work environment. This limits their exposure to risk.

08-01-2012, 07:26 AM	#5
Double D TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: North Florida Contributor Posts: 8,052	Re: Illinois Assault Weapons Ban Typical liberal response to the problem. Never really tackle the real issues at hand. Always strip the honest citizens of their rights and create more kill zones. Then they scream they need more money for more police. Liberals are so flippin stupid its pathetic. I hope criminals hit his house. __________________ I own a bunch of scary guns. You want em? Come and take em..... Liberalism is a serious, non curable, mental disorder... NRA LIFE MEMBER Oath Keepers Member NRA Certified Instructor 30 Yr CC permit holder.

08-01-2012, 07:39 AM	#6
ampaterry TFF Admin Staff Chaplain Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: West Tennessee Contributor Posts: 6,269	Re: Illinois Assault Weapons Ban The liberal lawmakers that make these stupid moves have nothing to worry about from criminals, Dan - they ALL have very well armed men guarding them and their families. Being unarmed victims of crime is the job of us little people, not our benevolent leaders. __________________ A woman who demands further gun control legislation is like a chicken who roots for Colonel Sanders. Larry Elder

08-01-2012, 07:41 AM	#7
Juker Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Land of Lincoln Contributor Posts: 2,872	Re: Illinois Assault Weapons Ban Gun restrictions in Illinois have proved to be a major success, clearly evidenced by the 38% murder rate increase in Chicago: http://www.examiner.com/article/chic...ate-up-38-2012 28 and a wakeup. Me and mine are outta this state forever. Somebody dies, somebody gets married, we'll send flowers - but I will never set foot in Illinois again. __________________ SHOOT FIRST. SHOOT SECOND. MOST IMPORTANTLY, BE THE MAN WHO'S SHOOTING LAST. Last edited by Juker; 08-01-2012 at 07:42 AM..

08-01-2012, 08:27 AM	#8
HAGEN442 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: The Dodge House, NC Posts: 70	Re: Illinois Assault Weapons Ban Just another Foolish Obama Pawn doing the " Talk the Talk" Sounds like the Crimes Bosses are becoming a lot more concerned aboutthe number of citizens "Shooting Back" 00 __________________ "A Man's got to have a Code, a Creed to Live By, No Matter his Job" JW Last edited by HAGEN442; 08-01-2012 at 08:28 AM..

08-01-2012, 04:54 PM	#10
ryan42 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: marion indiana Contributor Posts: 1,549	Re: Illinois Assault Weapons Ban Hey george i think you would be alot happier moving one state to the east so you can enjoy the weapons you want.But I know you cant its just a shame illinois is that way. __________________ Tommorrow is promised to know one! Ryan Stevens

08-01-2012, 05:57 PM	#11
gvw3 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Chicago IL Area Contributor Posts: 3,247	Re: Illinois Assault Weapons Ban Governor Quinn violates U.S. and Illinois constitutions simultaneously http://www.examiner.com/article/gove...simultaneously This governor just cost the state a lot of revenue do to this purely political move. Ryan I wish I could get out of this state. Someday. __________________ Criminals advocate stronger gun laws to foster a safer work environment. This limits their exposure to risk.

08-01-2012, 10:50 PM	#13
Gun Geezer Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,710	Re: Illinois Assault Weapons Ban The Chicago thugs (politicians) have a long and proud history of ignoring or violating the Constitution. They have ignored their Constitutionally mandated responsibility to fund their share of the teachers retirement pension fund for so long they are billions of dollars in arrears. The interest alone on the money they have to borrow to pay their retirement obligations amounts to 35% of their annual budget, and all they can come up with for a fix is hand-wringing, finger pointing, tax increases and threats of cutting Constitutionally guaranteed pension benefits, insurance and cost of living adjustments for teachers who, in good faith, paid their share for, in most cases, 38 years of service, longer than any other civil service occupation. Their attitude is to make the cuts and let the teachers file law suits letting the courts decide on the Constitutionality of the move. Meanwhile, the money they will save by not contributing their share will line their pockets. The Federal Government needs to step in and make them follow the Constitution, but I forget, Obozo learned all his tricks from the Chicago Democratic Machine. __________________ If voting could change anything for the better, It'd already be illegal.

08-01-2012, 11:42 PM	#14
mogunner Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Eastern Missouri Posts: 1,021	Re: Illinois Assault Weapons Ban Come over the line here in Missouri, we'd love to have ya here. We're shall issue on CCW, a lot of the cities are starting to have bowhunting inside city limits on deer, and we can hunt deer with a rifle that has a max of a ten round mag. Them dang vehicle inspections are a small price to pay IMHO!

08-02-2012, 06:56 AM	#16
hogger129 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4,064	Re: Illinois Assault Weapons Ban In Wisconsin, you can get a CCW, you can carry in the car if you have one, open carry legal with no permit, you can hunt with 10-round magazine (no rifle hunting in Dane Country though). No stupid assault weapon laws. __________________ Samuel Adams once said, "among the natural rights of the colonists are these: first, a right to life, secondly to liberty, thirdly to property; together with the right to defend them in the best manner they can."

08-02-2012, 09:01 AM	#19
CCHolderinMaine Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Steep Falls, Maine Contributor Posts: 629	Re: Illinois Assault Weapons Ban A suggestion to the fine folks of Illinois: Wall off Chicago and set it free...the 51st state. They can ban guns, mandate foodstamps, or just support the entire liberal agenda. The remainder can live free, governed by the constitution.

08-02-2012, 04:30 PM	#22
gvw3 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Chicago IL Area Contributor Posts: 3,247	Re: Illinois Assault Weapons Ban All the news story's I have read on this have a section for comments. The comments are all very pro gun for the most part. You get a few lib's. This governor is not up for election this year. To bad for that. I think this election will be a wake up call for the Democrats. Illinois people are fed up with all this. Chicago's welfare folks can't carry the state. __________________ Criminals advocate stronger gun laws to foster a safer work environment. This limits their exposure to risk.