I Need A Translation, Please ......

[JohnHenry]

I've been kinda', sorta', trying to follow ( see some logic in ) these various "protests" that are going on . I'm not able to make much sense out of what these folks are saying. From London, this A.M., I lifted the
following "blurb" that I would , really, like someone to convert to plain American-English ( in 5,000 words or less ).


"Activists carried banners with slogans such as 'We are the 99%' and 'Bankers got a bailout, we got sold out'.

Among them was Lorena Fuentes, 27, a charity worker originally from Vancouver, Canada. She said: 'I'm here today because I can't see why you wouldn't be and I feel that this is one of the few moments in history where it's not a protest, it's an actual movement that's taken root.
'We're trying to challenge this myth that there are not enough resources to go around.' "


OR, am I looking for something that doesn't exist ?

[ka64]

Originally Posted by JohnHenry

I've been kinda', sorta', trying to follow ( see some logic in ) these various "protests" that are going on . I'm not able to make much sense out of what these folks are saying. From London, this A.M., I lifted the
following "blurb" that I would , really, like someone to convert to plain American-English ( in 5,000 words or less ).


"Activists carried banners with slogans such as 'We are the 99%' and 'Bankers got a bailout, we got sold out'.

Got to ageee, 5 years ago my house was appraised @ 260'000. Now it's worrth according to the bank 175,000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Among them was Lorena Fuentes, 27, a charity worker originally from Vancouver, Canada. She said: 'I'm here today because I can't see why you wouldn't be and I feel that this is one of the few moments in history where it's not a protest, it's an actual movement that's taken root.

She's got nothing better to do.


'We're trying to challenge this myth that there are not enough resources to go around.' "


OR, am I looking for something that doesn't exist ?


YEP!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Juker]

Maybe Hornady should sponsor the Occupiers - it would be a great tie-in for that new Zmax ammo.

[Brisk44]

great now I need O-MAX ammo too!!!!

[muddober]

In a word and the short explanation they are "idiots". The long venison is that they have no constitutional right to peaceably assemble or otherwise against a person or company. The first amendment only provides for such assembly for those who have redress of grievances against the government. Additionally their main bitch seems to be special interest getting their way with lawmakers. I prefer to think of it this way. The law maker is the whore and the special interest is the john. Meaning if there is no whore there is no john, so why don't these idiots go stand in front of the US capitol which they have the constitutional right to do and offer to throw all of the whores out of congress starting with Nancy, Harry and Chuck.

Ron

[carver]

Originally Posted by JohnHenry

I've been kinda', sorta', trying to follow ( see some logic in ) these various "protests" that are going on . I'm not able to make much sense out of what these folks are saying. From London, this A.M., I lifted the
following "blurb" that I would , really, like someone to convert to plain American-English ( in 5,000 words or less ).


"Activists carried banners with slogans such as 'We are the 99%' and 'Bankers got a bailout, we got sold out'.

The remaining 1% are the very wealthy, and these idiots want them to give up all their money, so they can have it! The rich don't deserve it!

Among them was Lorena Fuentes, 27, a charity worker originally from Vancouver, Canada. She said: 'I'm here today because I can't see why you wouldn't be and I feel that this is one of the few moments in history where it's not a protest, it's an actual movement that's taken root.
'We're trying to challenge this myth that there are not enough resources to go around.' "

What they really want is to have the Government take care of them so they don't have to work! Like getting all the money form the rich folks!

OR, am I looking for something that doesn't exist ?

The Occupy Wall Street protesters fall into two groups. The first group are all communist! The second group are all stupid because they don't have a clue as to why they are there! It's been a month now, and thousands of these folks are still camped out protesting. Why haven't they lost their jobs? Because they didn't have one to start with! The money keeps rolling in for them while they are there. SS $$, welfare $$, food stamp $$, and the unions, and other organizations like moveon.org are hauling in food, and water to keep these idiots there!

[HunterAlpha1]

Originally Posted by muddober

In a word and the short explanation they are "idiots". The long venison is that they have no constitutional right to peaceably assemble or otherwise against a person or company. The first amendment only provides for such assembly for those who have redress of grievances against the government. Additionally their main bitch seems to be special interest getting their way with lawmakers. I prefer to think of it this way. The law maker is the whore and the special interest is the john. Meaning if there is no whore there is no john, so why don't these idiots go stand in front of the US capitol which they have the constitutional right to do and offer to throw all of the whores out of congress starting with Nancy, Harry and Chuck.

Ron

got deer hunting on the brain?

[RunningOnMT]

Communists, marxists, socialists, what have you. I believe that is who is behind most of this, whether or not most are card carrying members of any organizations espousing these philosophies, the majority are at least in agreement with a number of marxist principles.

You may or may not have noticed that a lot of changes have taken place over the last 50 years. Those advocating world wide socialism have been steadily advancing, slowly picking up new converts with each generation. This is no accident but a well thought out strategy. The commies long ago figured out that working on the inside of their enemy's borders and utilizing a nations own institutions to spread their influence is alot easier and less costly than engaging the free world in armed conflict.

Now they are fully infiltrated into our schools, labor unions, news media, film and music industry, and even government. You need look no further than the white house to verify that. You would think that conservative capitalists could retake the country in the same way, but once people have latched on to the idea that they can vote themselves largess from the public coffers, trying to reinstill a respect for private property and true economic freedom and justice is like trying to get someone off crack.

This may all end up in armed conflict but I believe we will lose. The best we can do is go down fighting for our beliefs. Oh well, at this point, with where the world is headed, I'm glad my time is winding down.

I can't help making a connection between all of these protests in the western world and the arab spring uprisings in the middleeast. Personally I believe there is a satan inspired spirit of rebellion on the rise that will introduce us all to even more radical thinking by many people which will usher in the time of the antichrist. But I suppose that thought is better left to the religious forum.

Muddober, you are mistaken on the 1st amendment right of the people to peacably assemble. It does not have to be for the express purpose of redress of grievances against the government. It can be for any reason as long as it respects private property rights, local ordinances, and does not disrupt or restrict the publics movement and ability to conduct it's lawful business.

[al45lc]

Occupy Denver protesters met with the Mayor to work out staying in the park at night. To his credit (for a Demmy), the mayor refused permission, citing having to do the same for other groups.
What I don't understand is why he met with them in the first place. They represent less than 1% of our population, and support forms of Government (or a completet lack of it, as many are Anarchists) that the Mayor himself wouldn't support. They have a right to protest, I support that. But the Law is, no one in the park from 11 pm to 5 am, and I support that too.
The kid gloves handling of these fools is what bothers me most. When the NRA convention was here we were recieved with far less respect than these bozos, and we brought huge amounts of money and profit, whereas these clowns are costing us tons of Police overtime and city crews for cleaning up.
It's just stupid.
Last night, for some strange reason, the sprinklers came on in the park, soaking many. Gosh, how unfortunate!

[terryu1]

I absolutely LOVE the reports now that there are thieves among the protesters stealing food, cell phones, computers and all sorts of personal items. There has also been a kidnap/rape at one in Cleveland and in Seattle a protester was arrested for exposing himslf to children. Hmmmm didn't hear any of this at Tea Party rallies. I am sure there is a good reason though.

[Poppypaul]

Carver is right on with his description of the two groups. Make no mistake about it that they want to destroy a system that they cannot deal with. They lost their jobs (some of them) and now want some "relief" from the government. But what they are proposing is the destruction of the work and reward system. Sure there are some crooks. Sure there are some nasty rich people. Sure there are some who reap benefits that they should not get. But that is life and the system of freedom of choice that we have.

[holyjake79]

Damn politics!

[45Auto]

Let's see; the American middle class is shrinking. Working class incomes are at an all time low. Young folks are graduating collage with lots of debt and very few job opportunities.

On the other hand, Corporate profits are at an all time high! Their whores in congress keep giving away our tax dollars in corporate welfare, such as the $3 Billion in subsidies to big oil.

The New Aristocracy of America, (our King) is what folks collectively call "Wall Street." King Wall Street owns Washington.

If low to middle class commoners are going to petition anyone with their greivances it might as well be King Wall Street. King Wall Street's politicians don't have time to listen to the little people. Politicians have to grovel to Wall Street for money to pay for their political campaigns.

[The Duke]

I dont find it strange that this bunch of nere do wells have the backing of both the American Communist Party and the American Nazi Party...Both want to see the downfall of capitolism and the USA... Im sure the George Soros is somewhere along the money trail for them. He shares the same ideals as both the Commies and the Nazies..

[jwrauch]

As Chairman Mao used to say, they a bunch of "useful idiots", to the commies !!!!! JR

[jwrauch]

As Chairman Mao used to say, they a bunch of "useful idiots", to the commies !!!!! JR

[RunningOnMT]

I agree

I agree

[dad2thebone]

I see a bunch of freeloaders takin up our park space. go home , get a job and as i sometimes say--get a haircut!

[Double D]

Well, just think, obozo and soros are most likely pouring wads of cash into the protests so they stay organized. Yes, thats right, they are most likely getting paid and paid well. Anytime there is a major diversion tactic put in place, it needs to be funded. This is no different. They cant make any sense because it makes no sense. Just watch the other hand for whats really going on.

[Chinook]

Thanks for that Dan. Thats what I needed to hear at this exact moment!

Actually, everyone. Thank you! All are such valid points. We have customers that try to talk with me about this Occupy Downtown America, and I am not there to discuss personal opinion. I state fact, and law. And you all have helped me maintain a handle on my emotions, by providing the most logical, reasonable points of any discussion Ive heard!

[Bobitis]

If ya think about it...

This started a few weeks ago, and was the laughing stock in the news. It began with a few misguided people that don't have a clue as to what the 'movement' is about. Something to protest when they have nothing else to do (in their minds).

The last 3 years have been one crisis after another in order to take the focus off the complete failure we have as an administration. In order to lessen the impact of taking over our great Nation.

The OWS movement was prime picking for the next distraction, and the gov jumped on it with both feet. Perfect timing on their part, and they have the dolts sucking it up.

Did the TEA party get this much attention? Why not?
2 millon march on DC and get 2 days coverage. 200 camp out wherever, and it's all over the MSM. Day after day after day...

Since the gov got involved, we now have thousands of people being further influenced by the fed (and the controlled MSM) trying to create a crisis where none exists. Sound familiar?

Obie said he was gonna unveil his job creation bill (after his vacation). Has anyone heard from him on this? No?

Hell NO! He's too busy campaigning in his Canadian made busses at the tax payers expense.

And all the while, OWS is getting all the coverage.

Perfect timing....

[Jim K]

The OWS movement has the distinction of being the only group with even less knowledge of economics than the Obama administration.

Jim

[HunterAlpha1]

i'm kinda tempted to head up to the nearest protest and hang out there so i can get the $200 a week or however much they're paying them.

then spend every cent on ammo and SBGO

[jstgsn]

In 1963 it was well described. If only we had listened. If you have not read this before, it will shock you, as many of the goals have been achieved.

Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35
January 10, 1963
Current Communist Goals
EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
Thursday, January 10, 1963
Mr. HERLONG. Mr. Speaker, Mrs. Patricia Nordman of De Land, Fla., is an ardent and articulate opponent of communism, and until recently published the De Land Courier, which she dedicated to the purpose of alerting the public to the dangers of communism in America.
At Mrs. Nordman's request, I include in the RECORD, under unanimous consent, the following "Current Communist Goals," which she identifies as an excerpt from "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen:
[From "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen]
CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS
1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.
2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.
3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.
4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.
5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.
6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.
7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.
8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.
9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.
10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.
11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)
12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.
13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.
14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.
15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.
16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
18. Gain control of all student newspapers.
19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.
20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.
21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."
23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."
24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.
25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."
27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."
28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."
29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."
31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.
32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.
34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.
35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.
36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.
37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.
38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].
39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.
40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.
42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems.
43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.
44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.
45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.

[millwright]

Think of it like "rap music". IOW the're ain't no 'translatin' !! >MW