History Channel just showed a 1911 with "Melonite" coating... - The Firearms Forum

glocknut · 08-18-2009, 06:56 PM

The history channel is doing a special on Salt. I guess they have a coating that involves salt thats called Melonite? They are saying that the inside of a gun barrel coated with this stuff makes it run cooler because it reduces friction?

Anyone ever heard of this coating before? I have heard about them freezing metal and other stuff down to near zero to allign the molecules but i have not heard of this coating before...

mike
gn

358 winchester · 08-18-2009, 07:16 PM

wasn't there some dishes made out of Melonite some years back ?

kingchip · 08-18-2009, 07:27 PM

I think it's a topping for cantaloupe...

glocknut · 08-18-2009, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 358 winchester

wasn't there some dishes made out of Melonite some years back ?

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Originally Posted by kingchip

I think it's a topping for cantaloupe...

Yeah...

mike
gn

Slabsides · 08-18-2009, 08:01 PM

Melonite: Large juicy fruit grown in certain parts of Kansas?

glocknut · 08-18-2009, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Slabsides

Melonite: Large juicy fruit grown in certain parts of Kansas?

Sam...they're making fun of me again....

mike
gn

big steve · 08-18-2009, 08:37 PM

flannelman · 08-18-2009, 09:02 PM

I think that a Melonite is actually an alien life form from a planet that looks much like a cantaloupe or other melon like fruit.

Alpo · 08-18-2009, 09:56 PM

Melonite is a telluride of nickel; it is a metallic mineral. Its chemical formula is NiTe2. It is opaque and white to reddish-white in color, oxidizing in air to a brown tarnish.

It was first described from the Melones and Stanislaus mine in Calaveras County, California in 1866.

Melonite occurs as trigonal crystals, which cleave in a (0001) direction. It has a specific gravity of 7.72 and a hardness of 1-1.5 (very soft).

In the metal finishing industry, Melonite is a trademark referring to a molten salt bath nitrocarburizing process, similar to Tenifer. This process can be applied to steels to increase corrosion and abrasion resistance, and improve other surface properties.

Hammerslagger · 08-18-2009, 10:16 PM

Alpo beat me to the post.

Melonite the the proprietary metal treatment has no relation to the mineral. The treatment is offered in several configurations in the USA. It and Tennifer are very similar. In fact I think I remember reading a post by a S&W or Walther USA senior engineer that they were in fact the same process with different names. Today, I seem to be finding that Tennifer still uses molten Cyanide and Melonite does not because of EPA restrictions.

At the moment, I do not have time do do in depth research. There is often more than one way to do a job and get the same results. Both seem to be equivalent processes as far as results are concerned, regardless of chemistry.

glocknut · 08-18-2009, 11:54 PM

Any idea who does this finishing on guns?

Didn't somebody on this forum say something about Glock discontinuing their tennifer finish? Seems like i remember something said about it?

mike
gn

Kieran McCaig · 08-19-2009, 12:00 AM

Alpo,you took a thread about Mike doing whatever to Melons and posted the answer ,tell me you didn't pull that right off the top of your head and had to look it up.

Gabob · 08-19-2009, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by 358 winchester

wasn't there some dishes made out of Melonite some years back ?

I think that might have been Melamine dishes

Alpo · 08-19-2009, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Kieran McCaig

Alpo,you took a thread about Mike doing whatever to Melons and posted the answer ,tell me you didn't pull that right off the top of your head and had to look it up.

I discovered, years ago, that being the "World's Greatest Authority" does not require you to know everything, as long as you know how to find out everything.

Bobitis · 08-19-2009, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Alpo

I discovered, years ago, that being the "World's Greatest Authority" does not require you to know everything, as long as you know how to find out everything.

OR...
How to present it.

It's all about presentation.

user · 08-19-2009, 04:40 PM

I'd know all about it, too, except that Comcast dropped the History Channel from the basic cable service, apparently.

ampaterry · 08-19-2009, 06:53 PM

You are sure right to check the History Channel, GN -

I remember when Hidalgo (the movie) came out.
The History Channel did a piece on it, concluding that there was no basis for the claim that a mustang beat the Arabs in an endurance race.

But the Cavalry Journal said it was true -

So who was the authority that the History Channel believed?
The Long Riders association, a group dedicated to endurance riding.
They denied it ever happened.
Who runs the Long Riders?
A moslem.

No chance of any conflict of interest there, no-sir-eee!

ampaterry · 08-19-2009, 06:56 PM

OH -
I tried coating my 1911 with Watermellon juice -
I don't know if it operated cooler or not, but the stickiness caused my grip to improve -

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glocknut Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: THE FORUM MASCOTT... Posts: 12,482	History Channel just showed a 1911 with "Melonite" coating... The history channel is doing a special on Salt. I guess they have a coating that involves salt thats called Melonite? They are saying that the inside of a gun barrel coated with this stuff makes it run cooler because it reduces friction? Anyone ever heard of this coating before? I have heard about them freezing metal and other stuff down to near zero to allign the molecules but i have not heard of this coating before... mike gn __________________ Where O where are you tonight? Why have you gone and left me alone? I searched to world over and a thought i found true love... You met another and PTThhh you were gone.... -->

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Alpo Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NW Florida Posts: 8,664	Re: History Channel just showed a 1911 with "Melonite" coating... Melonite is a telluride of nickel; it is a metallic mineral. Its chemical formula is NiTe2. It is opaque and white to reddish-white in color, oxidizing in air to a brown tarnish. It was first described from the Melones and Stanislaus mine in Calaveras County, California in 1866. Melonite occurs as trigonal crystals, which cleave in a (0001) direction. It has a specific gravity of 7.72 and a hardness of 1-1.5 (very soft). In the metal finishing industry, Melonite is a trademark referring to a molten salt bath nitrocarburizing process, similar to Tenifer. This process can be applied to steels to increase corrosion and abrasion resistance, and improve other surface properties. __________________ Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy, and taste good with catsup - George of Lod, Year of Our Lord 297 I always take precautions. Beware the Evil Bullet Fairies.

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Hammerslagger Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,099	Re: History Channel just showed a 1911 with "Melonite" coating... Alpo beat me to the post. Melonite the the proprietary metal treatment has no relation to the mineral. The treatment is offered in several configurations in the USA. It and Tennifer are very similar. In fact I think I remember reading a post by a S&W or Walther USA senior engineer that they were in fact the same process with different names. Today, I seem to be finding that Tennifer still uses molten Cyanide and Melonite does not because of EPA restrictions. At the moment, I do not have time do do in depth research. There is often more than one way to do a job and get the same results. Both seem to be equivalent processes as far as results are concerned, regardless of chemistry.

08-18-2009, 11:54 PM	#11
glocknut Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: THE FORUM MASCOTT... Posts: 12,482	Re: History Channel just showed a 1911 with "Melonite" coating... Any idea who does this finishing on guns? Didn't somebody on this forum say something about Glock discontinuing their tennifer finish? Seems like i remember something said about it? mike gn __________________ Where O where are you tonight? Why have you gone and left me alone? I searched to world over and a thought i found true love... You met another and PTThhh you were gone....

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Kieran McCaig Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: canada Posts: 1,469	Re: History Channel just showed a 1911 with "Melonite" coating... Alpo,you took a thread about Mike doing whatever to Melons and posted the answer ,tell me you didn't pull that right off the top of your head and had to look it up.

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ampaterry TFF Admin Staff Chaplain Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: West Tennessee Contributor Posts: 6,300	Re: History Channel just showed a 1911 with "Melonite" coating... You are sure right to check the History Channel, GN - I remember when Hidalgo (the movie) came out. The History Channel did a piece on it, concluding that there was no basis for the claim that a mustang beat the Arabs in an endurance race. But the Cavalry Journal said it was true - So who was the authority that the History Channel believed? The Long Riders association, a group dedicated to endurance riding. They denied it ever happened. Who runs the Long Riders? A moslem. No chance of any conflict of interest there, no-sir-eee! __________________ A woman who demands further gun control legislation is like a chicken who roots for Colonel Sanders. Larry Elder

08-19-2009, 06:56 PM	#18
ampaterry TFF Admin Staff Chaplain Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: West Tennessee Contributor Posts: 6,300	Re: History Channel just showed a 1911 with "Melonite" coating... OH - I tried coating my 1911 with Watermellon juice - I don't know if it operated cooler or not, but the stickiness caused my grip to improve - __________________ A woman who demands further gun control legislation is like a chicken who roots for Colonel Sanders. Larry Elder