.17 cal

[69ford]

Hi all,

I have gotten some great luck with information site today. I am new here and the advise is refreshing.

Here is a rifle question:

I have a rifle that I got from my father a number of years but don"t shoot it much because I can't find ammo. It is a .17 cal but it is not even listed on the barrel. You have to take a 223 case and neck it down to .17. I don't have the skills to reload this round. It is an incredible rifle and shoots very true. The only markings on it are L461, NO.98XXX, and what looks like to be a lions head. one of the smoothest actions I have ever encountered. If you have any info I would love to hear from you

Thanks

[BullShoot]

L461 sounds like Sako to me. They used the L461 action in the Sako Vixen

BullShoot

[GunHugger]

That rifle is a H&R Model 317 Ultra Wildcat.

It was available with the Sako L461 action in 17-223, from 1968 thru 1971.

Here's an article with more info.
http://www.***********.com/content/1...ra-bomb?page=1

[BullShoot]

Thanks, GunHugger, that explains quite nicely why it ''sounded like'' Sako but didn't quite look like one.

BullShoot

[69ford]

Originally Posted by GunHugger

That rifle is a H&R Model 317 Ultra Wildcat.

It was available with the Sako L461 action in 17-223, from 1968 thru 1971.

Here's an article with more info.
http://www.***********.com/content/1...ra-bomb?page=1

Not that I would ever sell this rifle but what is it's worth? Thanks for the info by the way. I have been wondering about it for some time what this thing is. I need to start learning to reload at a advanced level. I love this rifle but the scope sucks.

[GunHugger]

The current online Bluebook:

MODEL 317 ULTRA WILDCAT BOLT ACTION

- .17/223 H&R Wildcat, .17 Rem., .222 Rem., or .223 Rem. cal., 6 shot internal mag., 20 in. blue barrel, hinged floor plate, no sights, drilled and tapped, hand checkered American walnut stock with cheekpiece and pistol grip, recoil pad, early mfg. used leftover inventory of the O'Brien Rifle Co. of Las Vegas, NV, which H&R purchased in the late 1960s, early production barrels were mfg. by Ackley and Shilen, later mfg. used Sako actions, 5 1/4 lbs. Mfg. 1968-1976.

100% 98% 95% 90% 80% 70% 60%
$600 $520 $440 $390 $340 $285 $245



Model 317P Presentation Grade Ultra Wildcat

- similar to Model 317, except has basket weave pattern hand checkered American walnut stock with contrasting wood pistol grip cap and forend tip. Mfg. 1968-1976.

100% 98% 95% 90% 80% 70% 60%
$675 $585 $500 $435 $375 $325 $275

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[69ford]

Originally Posted by GunHugger

The current online Bluebook:

MODEL 317 ULTRA WILDCAT BOLT ACTION

- .17/223 H&R Wildcat, .17 Rem., .222 Rem., or .223 Rem. cal., 6 shot internal mag., 20 in. blue barrel, hinged floor plate, no sights, drilled and tapped, hand checkered American walnut stock with cheekpiece and pistol grip, recoil pad, early mfg. used leftover inventory of the O'Brien Rifle Co. of Las Vegas, NV, which H&R purchased in the late 1960s, early production barrels were mfg. by Ackley and Shilen, later mfg. used Sako actions, 5 1/4 lbs. Mfg. 1968-1976.

100% 98% 95% 90% 80% 70% 60%
$600 $520 $440 $390 $340 $285 $245


Thank you so much for the info. I really thought the rifle would have had more value. It is a wonderful looking piece and shoots great. As said before, I would never sell it. Again, thank you!

L


Model 317P Presentation Grade Ultra Wildcat

- similar to Model 317, except has basket weave pattern hand checkered American walnut stock with contrasting wood pistol grip cap and forend tip. Mfg. 1968-1976.

100% 98% 95% 90% 80% 70% 60%
$675 $585 $500 $435 $375 $325 $275

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[GunHugger]

The Bookbook is just a "guide" to gun values.

You never know what that rifle might bring on one of the big online gun auction sites. It's rare, made well and in a Wildcat caliber, it might do real well.