Savage 1905 and 1917, Hopkins Allen XL #7, Steven Diamond #7 - The Firearms Forum

bigrez · 07-20-2011, 11:10 PM

Hi All -

New member, completely ignorant about guns here. My dad has the following items and wanted to know what to look for when trying to determine a fair value for them. He is looking to sell them to help pay for medical bills

1) Savage model 1917 32 cal handgun, Ser# 253570.
Looks in good shape to me, seems mechanically sound. No cracks or pits. Sight marker on barrel tip is missing.

2) Savage model 1905 bolt action rifle SR & LR, Ser# ???
Stock is very good shape, no scratches/wear. Again seems very clean.

3) J. Stevens Diamond #43, Ser# 47187
Good shape, no marks on the wood handle, all mechanical parts seem to work. Guessing at the model from pictures I've seen in the internet.

4) Hopkins and Allen XL No. 7, Ser# 12135
Wooden handle grips in good shape with some minor marks. Nickle? plating seems to be wearing and has some small scratches.

Pictures are of #2, #3, and #4 above. I'll upload #1 when I get the picture for it.

Thank in advance for any info you can provide.

Mike

hrf · 07-21-2011, 06:59 AM

Welcome to the forum, sorry for your dad's medical bills.

Your ID of #3 appears correct: Stevens Diamond No. 43, Second Issue (first issue had a brass frame).
Flayderman lists value range of $$150 for Very Good condition to $375 for Excellent condition.

He groups all spur trigger revolvers such as #4 together, with value range of $150-$350.

#2 Savage Model 1905, made 1905-1919 and interesting because of the "Swiss" buttplate. There is a growing group of "boy's rifle" collectors, and in condition shown should bring a couple hundred?

Value range of the Savage Model 1917 .32 is listed as Very Good condition $200 - Excellent condition $350.

Be aware that these are prices you might realize on an auction, and offers from a dealer or at a gun show will normally be considerably less.

bigrez · 07-22-2011, 10:21 PM

Thanks. Bills are a result of his wife's passing.

Here's a pic of the Savage 1917 and also of a Dan Wesson 44 mag. (I had to laugh because I was told to look around the house for "Uncle Owen's service gun". That's when I found the others above. Didn't find the 44 mag until today and for a couple days was wondering how old Uncle Owen was to be using one of those other pistols as his Sheriff weapon. LOL)

That's a 3" barrel on the stainless 44 mag. Would there be a specific model for this gun?

NorthwoodsFA · 08-22-2011, 03:03 PM

I am an FFL dealer in NY state. Are the firearms still available and what would you take for them?

NorthwoodsFA · 08-22-2011, 04:23 PM

I am an FFL dealer in NY state. Are the firearms still available and what would you take for them?
Marc Necatera
Northwood's Firearms
518-696-9969
northwoodsfirearms@gmail.com

bigrez · 12-28-2011, 07:07 PM

The rifle and 44mag are not available but the others (Savage 1917, J. Stevens Diamond #43, and XL#7) are. (Sorry for not getting back sooner.)

I have scouted around for some average pricing on them and would like to get fair values. I'm currently looking at gunsamerica.com and what would be involved with selling them on that site. I don't know anything about selling firearms - other than they require some special handling.

mike

08-22-2011, 04:23 PM	#5
NorthwoodsFA Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 2	Re: Savage 1905 and 1917, Hopkins Allen XL #7, Steven Diamond #7 I am an FFL dealer in NY state. Are the firearms still available and what would you take for them? Marc Necatera Northwood's Firearms 518-696-9969 northwoodsfirearms@gmail.com

12-28-2011, 07:07 PM	#6
bigrez Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 3	Re: Savage 1905 and 1917, Hopkins Allen XL #7, Steven Diamond #7 The rifle and 44mag are not available but the others (Savage 1917, J. Stevens Diamond #43, and XL#7) are. (Sorry for not getting back sooner.) I have scouted around for some average pricing on them and would like to get fair values. I'm currently looking at gunsamerica.com and what would be involved with selling them on that site. I don't know anything about selling firearms - other than they require some special handling. mike

07-20-2011, 11:10 PM	#1
bigrez Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 3	Savage 1905 and 1917, Hopkins Allen XL #7, Steven Diamond #7 Hi All - New member, completely ignorant about guns here. My dad has the following items and wanted to know what to look for when trying to determine a fair value for them. He is looking to sell them to help pay for medical bills 1) Savage model 1917 32 cal handgun, Ser# 253570. Looks in good shape to me, seems mechanically sound. No cracks or pits. Sight marker on barrel tip is missing. 2) Savage model 1905 bolt action rifle SR & LR, Ser# ??? Stock is very good shape, no scratches/wear. Again seems very clean. 3) J. Stevens Diamond #43, Ser# 47187 Good shape, no marks on the wood handle, all mechanical parts seem to work. Guessing at the model from pictures I've seen in the internet. 4) Hopkins and Allen XL No. 7, Ser# 12135 Wooden handle grips in good shape with some minor marks. Nickle? plating seems to be wearing and has some small scratches. Pictures are of #2, #3, and #4 above. I'll upload #1 when I get the picture for it. Thank in advance for any info you can provide. Mike Attached Images -->

07-21-2011, 06:59 AM	#2
hrf Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,309	Re: Savage 1905 and 1917, Hopkins Allen XL #7, Steven Diamond #7 Welcome to the forum, sorry for your dad's medical bills. Your ID of #3 appears correct: Stevens Diamond No. 43, Second Issue (first issue had a brass frame). Flayderman lists value range of $$150 for Very Good condition to $375 for Excellent condition. He groups all spur trigger revolvers such as #4 together, with value range of $150-$350. #2 Savage Model 1905, made 1905-1919 and interesting because of the "Swiss" buttplate. There is a growing group of "boy's rifle" collectors, and in condition shown should bring a couple hundred? Value range of the Savage Model 1917 .32 is listed as Very Good condition $200 - Excellent condition $350. Be aware that these are prices you might realize on an auction, and offers from a dealer or at a gun show will normally be considerably less. Last edited by hrf; 07-21-2011 at 07:38 AM..

07-22-2011, 10:21 PM	#3
bigrez Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 3	Re: Savage 1905 and 1917, Hopkins Allen XL #7, Steven Diamond #7 Thanks. Bills are a result of his wife's passing. Here's a pic of the Savage 1917 and also of a Dan Wesson 44 mag. (I had to laugh because I was told to look around the house for "Uncle Owen's service gun". That's when I found the others above. Didn't find the 44 mag until today and for a couple days was wondering how old Uncle Owen was to be using one of those other pistols as his Sheriff weapon. LOL) That's a 3" barrel on the stainless 44 mag. Would there be a specific model for this gun? Attached Images

08-22-2011, 03:03 PM	#4
NorthwoodsFA Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 2	Re: Savage 1905 and 1917, Hopkins Allen XL #7, Steven Diamond #7 I am an FFL dealer in NY state. Are the firearms still available and what would you take for them?