question on selling ammo - The Firearms Forum

ryan42 · 02-04-2012, 11:28 PM

I was wondering if you have to have a special liscense to sell reloads other than a business liscense?

JLA · 02-04-2012, 11:47 PM

If you intend to make and sell ammo you have to have a manufacterers license. FFL-07 I believe..

JLA · 02-04-2012, 11:48 PM

And its not worth it unless youre filthy stinkin rich enough to buy insurance out the arse. The liability margins with ammunitions are huge.

CampingJosh · 02-04-2012, 11:48 PM

Yes, you need an 06 FFL.

You can learn about it here. http://www.atf.gov/forms/download/at...12-notice.html

JLA · 02-04-2012, 11:49 PM

I was a number off.. My mind is goin numb..

CampingJosh · 02-04-2012, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JLA

If you intend to make and sell ammo you have to have a manufacterers license. FFL-07 I believe..

07 is what came to my mind at first, too, but that's a firearms manufacturer (other than destructive devices). 06 is ammo manufacturer. I had to look it up.

JLA · 02-04-2012, 11:52 PM

Yep you be correct. I went and got my book.

ryan42 · 02-04-2012, 11:54 PM

that answers that question,I was at a gun show and the had a booth of nothing but reloads for sale and they were outragous prices way more than store bought.

JLA · 02-04-2012, 11:59 PM

I see that sometimes. Its because theyre trying to get paid for their time invested. They probably jumped into it not fully realizing the time requrement to reload thousands of rounds and the initial equipment costs. Folks like that quickly go out of business.

ryan42 · 02-05-2012, 12:24 AM

I see.thanks

cpttango30 · 02-05-2012, 10:39 AM

Don't forget $10 million in insurance.

312shooter · 02-05-2012, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryan42

that answers that question,I was at a gun show and the had a booth of nothing but reloads for sale and they were outragous prices way more than store bought.

Agree 100%, and knowing a bit about handloading, if you have fired these "factory reloads" you will quickly realize they are using the absolute minimum charges with fast powders to go cheap as possible, nothing I'd care to ever use.

The Duke · 02-05-2012, 03:47 PM

Taking into effect that well understood phenomenon referred to as "Gun Show Prices", its rather easily understood...

Unless you can buy in huge bulk supplies, boolits, once fired brass, primers, its still pretty hard to cut into the 'big boys' profit margins...

One of the 'big box' stores was selling CCI Blazer, 9mm, FMJ, Al+ cases for about $3.75 a 50 rd box few years back...I couldnt load them that cheap.

Them days are gone!

312shooter · 02-06-2012, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Duke

One of the 'big box' stores was selling CCI Blazer, 9mm, FMJ, Al+ cases for about $3.75 a 50 rd box few years back...I couldnt load them that cheap.
Them days are gone!

Agreed!! Just wandered through the local wally world and I couldnt resist looking at the ammo, $12.96 for a box of 50 9mm WWB....god bless handloading!

vasiggie · 02-06-2012, 10:46 AM

06 is for ammo manufacturing. But yes, not worth the headaches. I know some people do it under the radar but highly recomend against it

Dirtypacman · 02-06-2012, 12:19 PM

Here in MA yes you must have a license to sell ammo

02-04-2012, 11:28 PM	#1
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JLA TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Heart Of Texas Contributor Posts: 17,315	Re: question on selling ammo If you intend to make and sell ammo you have to have a manufacterers license. FFL-07 I believe.. __________________ It takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 3 for proper trigger squeeze. The latest caliber or gear is no substitute for experience and skill. Rifles and cartridges don't make hits -- shooters do. Fact of life: After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!

02-04-2012, 11:48 PM	#3
JLA TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Heart Of Texas Contributor Posts: 17,315	Re: question on selling ammo And its not worth it unless youre filthy stinkin rich enough to buy insurance out the arse. The liability margins with ammunitions are huge. __________________ It takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 3 for proper trigger squeeze. The latest caliber or gear is no substitute for experience and skill. Rifles and cartridges don't make hits -- shooters do. Fact of life: After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!

02-04-2012, 11:48 PM	#4
CampingJosh TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Contributor Posts: 4,788	Re: question on selling ammo Yes, you need an 06 FFL. You can learn about it here. http://www.atf.gov/forms/download/at...12-notice.html __________________ Nothing posted on TheFirearmsForum.com constitutes legal, accounting, gunsmithing, or other professional advice. Readers are encouraged to consult with qualified professionals for real advice. Your life is lived at your own risk. Don't blame me for the dumb things you do.

02-04-2012, 11:49 PM	#5
JLA TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Heart Of Texas Contributor Posts: 17,315	Re: question on selling ammo I was a number off.. My mind is goin numb.. __________________ It takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 3 for proper trigger squeeze. The latest caliber or gear is no substitute for experience and skill. Rifles and cartridges don't make hits -- shooters do. Fact of life: After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!

02-04-2012, 11:52 PM	#7
JLA TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Heart Of Texas Contributor Posts: 17,315	Re: question on selling ammo Yep you be correct. I went and got my book. __________________ It takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 3 for proper trigger squeeze. The latest caliber or gear is no substitute for experience and skill. Rifles and cartridges don't make hits -- shooters do. Fact of life: After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!

02-04-2012, 11:54 PM	#8
ryan42 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: marion indiana Contributor Posts: 1,549	Re: question on selling ammo that answers that question,I was at a gun show and the had a booth of nothing but reloads for sale and they were outragous prices way more than store bought.

02-04-2012, 11:59 PM	#9
JLA TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Heart Of Texas Contributor Posts: 17,315	Re: question on selling ammo I see that sometimes. Its because theyre trying to get paid for their time invested. They probably jumped into it not fully realizing the time requrement to reload thousands of rounds and the initial equipment costs. Folks like that quickly go out of business. __________________ It takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 3 for proper trigger squeeze. The latest caliber or gear is no substitute for experience and skill. Rifles and cartridges don't make hits -- shooters do. Fact of life: After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!

02-05-2012, 12:24 AM	#10
ryan42 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: marion indiana Contributor Posts: 1,549	Re: question on selling ammo I see.thanks

02-05-2012, 10:39 AM	#11
cpttango30 Former Guest Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Stafford, VA Contributor Posts: 3,071	Re: question on selling ammo Don't forget $10 million in insurance.

02-05-2012, 03:47 PM	#13
The Duke Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: NW Louisiana Posts: 813	Re: question on selling ammo Taking into effect that well understood phenomenon referred to as "Gun Show Prices", its rather easily understood... Unless you can buy in huge bulk supplies, boolits, once fired brass, primers, its still pretty hard to cut into the 'big boys' profit margins... One of the 'big box' stores was selling CCI Blazer, 9mm, FMJ, Al+ cases for about $3.75 a 50 rd box few years back...I couldnt load them that cheap. Them days are gone! __________________ Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc'-ra-cy) - a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers.

02-06-2012, 10:46 AM	#15
vasiggie Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 5	Re: question on selling ammo 06 is for ammo manufacturing. But yes, not worth the headaches. I know some people do it under the radar but highly recomend against it Last edited by vasiggie; 02-06-2012 at 10:53 AM..

02-06-2012, 12:19 PM	#16
Dirtypacman Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Merrimac Valley, MA Posts: 908	Re: question on selling ammo Here in MA yes you must have a license to sell ammo __________________ Member HHRG and HSC, NRA Life Member, GOAL Member LTC-A