Ranger shotgun for b.goforth or whoever - The Firearms Forum

doubleslover · 12-07-2009, 05:40 PM

Bill--here is that shotgun that I eluded to in an earlier thread by DBjr. You asked to see some pictures. All it says is Ranger on one side of the action, nothing on the other side. It has the Iver Johnson butt plate and the serial number is on the trigger tang and it is just numbers, no suffix. I am in Canada, and I believe this is a Canadian gun. I have read elsewhere that Cooey made the champion and Hercules models for Iver Johnson but I haven't been able to find anything on an Iver Johnson Ranger.

b.goforth · 12-08-2009, 12:35 PM

it does look like an iver johnson champion or one of the excel type. i believe i will have to change my mind about iver johnson using the name RANGER on single barrel shotguns for canada only. there is so much we don't know about the canadian gun business from the the 1920's and 1930's.

but like i said in the other post i still haven't seen any thing that in print or on the guns themselves that would indicate iver johnson's arms & cycle works have any other manufacturing factory other than in fitchberg, mass. for now my belief is iver johnson opened their own sales outlet in colbourg and montreal and sold the single and double barrel shotguns. there may have been some assembly done in canada.

EXCEL Iver Johnson’s Arms & Cycle Works in house Brand Name with many Retailers--------------------------------------1910-1935
Single barrel; rebounding center mounted hammer; top lever operated break open design; gauges: 12, 16, 20 and 410 bore; barrel length: 26, 28, 30, and 32 inches (features barrel and lug forged in one piece) bored full chock only; Walnut butt stock and fore-end; automatic extractors; weight 6¾ pounds; overall length with 30 inch barrel 45 inches; blued receiver & barrel (nickel often seen); Economy model of Champion single barrel offered to mail order houses and other wholesalers; will also be found under the following Brand Names;
T. BARKER H& D Folsom Co. New York wholesaler
BLACKFIELD Hibbard-Spencer & Bartlett Co. Chicago wholesaler
BLACKIMP K-S-CO Keith-Simmons Co. San Francisco wholesaler
CHALLENGER George Worthington Co. Cleveland Ohio wholesaler
DIAMOND ARMS CO. Shapleigh Hardware Co. St. Louis wholesaler
EASTERN ARMS CO. Retailer Sears, Roebuck & Co. (just before or just after WWII)
FAMOUS Hirch Mercantile Co San Francisco California wholesaler
FALCON National Lead Co. San Francisco California wholesaler
HERMITAGE K-S-CO Keith-Simmons Co. Nashville TN wholesaler
IDEAL Charles Williams Stores Brooklyn New York retailer
KING NITRO Shapleigh Hardware Co. St, Louis wholesaler
MARSHFIELD (MARSHWOOD?) Charles Williams Stores Brooklyn New York retailer
MONITER Paxton & Gallager Co. Omaha, Nebraska wholesaler
NEWPORT Hibbard-Spencer & Bartlett Co. Chicago wholesaler
OLYMPIC ARMS CO. Morley & Murphy Hardware, Green Bay WI and Morley Brothers Saginaw MI wholesalers
RANGER Retailer Sears, Roebuck & Co. (just before or just after WWII)
REVONOC (REV-O-NOC) Richardson & Conover Hardware Co, Kansas City also see with Hibbard-Spencer & Bartlett name
SCOUT Frankfurth Hardware Co. Milwaukee WI wholesaler/retailer
SIOUX Larson Hardware Co. SD wholesaler/retailer
TRIUMPH Montgomery Wards & Co retailer
TRUE BLUE Shapleigh Hardware Co. St. Louis wholesaler
VOLUNTEER Belknap Hardware Co. St Louis wholesaler
WESTERN FIELD Montgomery Wards & Co retailer
XLCR W. Bingham Co. Cleveland Ohio wholesaler
It must be noted that some of these names will also be found on single barrel shotguns manufactures by other manufacturer as some names were the property of the wholesaler/retailer
VALUE: 100%=$175 60%=$75

bill

12-07-2009, 05:40 PM	#1
doubleslover V.I.P. Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 213	Ranger shotgun for b.goforth or whoever Bill--here is that shotgun that I eluded to in an earlier thread by DBjr. You asked to see some pictures. All it says is Ranger on one side of the action, nothing on the other side. It has the Iver Johnson butt plate and the serial number is on the trigger tang and it is just numbers, no suffix. I am in Canada, and I believe this is a Canadian gun. I have read elsewhere that Cooey made the champion and Hercules models for Iver Johnson but I haven't been able to find anything on an Iver Johnson Ranger. Attached Images -->

12-08-2009, 12:35 PM	#2
b.goforth Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: houston, tx Posts: 3,174	Re: Ranger shotgun for b.goforth or whoever it does look like an iver johnson champion or one of the excel type. i believe i will have to change my mind about iver johnson using the name RANGER on single barrel shotguns for canada only. there is so much we don't know about the canadian gun business from the the 1920's and 1930's. but like i said in the other post i still haven't seen any thing that in print or on the guns themselves that would indicate iver johnson's arms & cycle works have any other manufacturing factory other than in fitchberg, mass. for now my belief is iver johnson opened their own sales outlet in colbourg and montreal and sold the single and double barrel shotguns. there may have been some assembly done in canada. EXCEL Iver Johnson’s Arms & Cycle Works in house Brand Name with many Retailers--------------------------------------1910-1935 Single barrel; rebounding center mounted hammer; top lever operated break open design; gauges: 12, 16, 20 and 410 bore; barrel length: 26, 28, 30, and 32 inches (features barrel and lug forged in one piece) bored full chock only; Walnut butt stock and fore-end; automatic extractors; weight 6¾ pounds; overall length with 30 inch barrel 45 inches; blued receiver & barrel (nickel often seen); Economy model of Champion single barrel offered to mail order houses and other wholesalers; will also be found under the following Brand Names; T. BARKER H& D Folsom Co. New York wholesaler BLACKFIELD Hibbard-Spencer & Bartlett Co. Chicago wholesaler BLACKIMP K-S-CO Keith-Simmons Co. San Francisco wholesaler CHALLENGER George Worthington Co. Cleveland Ohio wholesaler DIAMOND ARMS CO. Shapleigh Hardware Co. St. Louis wholesaler EASTERN ARMS CO. Retailer Sears, Roebuck & Co. (just before or just after WWII) FAMOUS Hirch Mercantile Co San Francisco California wholesaler FALCON National Lead Co. San Francisco California wholesaler HERMITAGE K-S-CO Keith-Simmons Co. Nashville TN wholesaler IDEAL Charles Williams Stores Brooklyn New York retailer KING NITRO Shapleigh Hardware Co. St, Louis wholesaler MARSHFIELD (MARSHWOOD?) Charles Williams Stores Brooklyn New York retailer MONITER Paxton & Gallager Co. Omaha, Nebraska wholesaler NEWPORT Hibbard-Spencer & Bartlett Co. Chicago wholesaler OLYMPIC ARMS CO. Morley & Murphy Hardware, Green Bay WI and Morley Brothers Saginaw MI wholesalers RANGER Retailer Sears, Roebuck & Co. (just before or just after WWII) REVONOC (REV-O-NOC) Richardson & Conover Hardware Co, Kansas City also see with Hibbard-Spencer & Bartlett name SCOUT Frankfurth Hardware Co. Milwaukee WI wholesaler/retailer SIOUX Larson Hardware Co. SD wholesaler/retailer TRIUMPH Montgomery Wards & Co retailer TRUE BLUE Shapleigh Hardware Co. St. Louis wholesaler VOLUNTEER Belknap Hardware Co. St Louis wholesaler WESTERN FIELD Montgomery Wards & Co retailer XLCR W. Bingham Co. Cleveland Ohio wholesaler It must be noted that some of these names will also be found on single barrel shotguns manufactures by other manufacturer as some names were the property of the wholesaler/retailer VALUE: 100%=$175 60%=$75 bill __________________ Author: Iver Johnson's Arms & Cycle Works 1871-1993 H&R Arms Company 1871-1986 (due spring 2010) available from www.gunshowbooks.com website; iverjohnsoncollector.x10hosting.com Last edited by b.goforth; 12-08-2009 at 12:37 PM..