Hypothetical Non Voter Situation

[76Highboy]

My wife and I were talking today and the conversation of non-voters came about. Then I made a comment that if I had a relative living with me (renting or not) that if they did not vote (other then for reasons that are out of their control) they would have to leave. My wife does not agree and says that I am too harsh. I told her that IMO, a person that cannot take the time to exercise their moral and civil duty of voting is no better then a person that turns their back on their country.

My wife says no, a person that does not vote just has no say in the direction of the country and cannot complain, and I agree with that too. But, she says making someone leave because they won't vote is too harsh.

IMO, a person that does not vote cannot be counted on in a time of political crisis. So am I wrong? Am I too harsh? I feel that if a person does not vote that maybe they should go visit a country and see first hand what it is like not to have an opinion. I believe that some people take our freedom for granted and that kind of person would not be livable in my house under my roof.


I want to know, is my opinion on this subject too harsh.

Thanks,
Jim

[targetacqmgt]

No IMO I do not consider them "traitors" BUT I would cut off their govt welfare the first time they did not "Deliberately" vote and remove their citizenship after three times as a non voter. However not to worry in some jurisdictions (like Chicago) the dead vote and often.

[Double D]

Jim, you are a man after my own heart. We do think alike on this matter. We have had this discussion here before about weather or not to cut ties with any people you know that voted for obama and many folks felt like that was something that should be done if you felt strongly enough about the issue. My take is this: its YOUR house and you decide what makes you comfortable or uncomfortable. This election means so much to so many people, it is beyond me how someone could just not be involved. So, its your choice. If you dont make them move, they should definitely know exactly how you feel. Keep us posted.

[76Highboy]

Originally Posted by Double D

Jim, you are a man after my own heart. We do think alike on this matter. We have had this discussion here before about weather or not to cut ties with any people you know that voted for Obama and many folks felt like that was something that should be done if you felt strongly enough about the issue. My take is this: its YOUR house and you decide what makes you comfortable or uncomfortable. This election means so much to so many people, it is beyond me how someone could just not be involved. So, its your choice. If you don't make them move, they should definitely know exactly how you feel. Keep us posted.

Dan, I hope it does not come to that but if they don't vote it's gonna take a lot to make me bite my tongue. I see it coming. But I don't care. He can take his money elsewhere cause I don't need it. So we will see, possibly by today. The wife and I should have our absentee voting ballots shortly so we can get our votes in.

Also, make it clear. An Obama voter cannot reside in my house either.

[Double D]

Originally Posted by 76Highboy

Dan, I hope it does not come to that but if they don't vote it's gonna take a lot to make me bite my tongue. I see it coming. But I don't care. He can take his money elsewhere cause I don't need it. So we will see, possibly by today. The wife and I should have our absentee voting ballots shortly so we can get our votes in.

Also, make it clear. An Obama voter cannot reside in my house either.

I figured that goes without saying. Also, sometimes women dont quite understand our firm positions.

[76Highboy]

Originally Posted by Double D

I figured that goes without saying. Also, sometimes women dont quite understand our firm positions.

Ya, I have to be reasonable because it is her son. But I always told my daughter that she was to vote. Good men did not die in this country for us to take our freedoms for granted. Now she's a proud voter,,, and a republican,,, and a hunter.

[lonewolf204]

I agree 100%!

[carver]

Originally Posted by 76Highboy

Ya, I have to be reasonable because it is her son. But I always told my daughter that she was to vote. Good men did not die in this country for us to take our freedoms for granted. Now she's a proud voter,,, and a republican,,, and a hunter.

How old is the boy?

[76Highboy]

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[GunnyGene]

Your house, your rules. I've got no problem with it. But I'm not your wife.

[Appliancedude]

Your wife is wrong. As a husband myself, its not often we get to say this. However it is her son. That being said, I think you need to have a behind the woodshed discussion with him about the importance of voting. Just my ever so humble opinion.

[76Highboy]

Originally Posted by Appliancedude

Your wife is wrong. As a husband myself, its not often we get to say this. However it is her son. That being said, I think you need to have a behind the woodshed discussion with him about the importance of voting. Just my ever so humble opinion.

All I can say is if he weren't her son, he'd be gone.

[carver]

That is why God made man the head of the woman. Man was made in the image, and likeness of God, woman was made from man, for man.

[76Highboy]

Originally Posted by carver

That is why God made man the head of the woman. Man was made in the image, and likeness of God, woman was made from man, for man.

And then God made boots for kicking people out of your house. Trust me, I will win this.

[carver]

Just remember that it's not about winning, but about being right. As the head of house hold it is your right, no it's your duty, to make the rules. If the boy is old enough to be working, and earning his own way, then he obeys, or he walks! It can be hard, but sometimes it has to be done. My wife's son was told the rules by me, before he moved in with us, he agreed. When he broke the rules he had no job, and no money. So I made him pack his junk, and let him off at the shelter. Mama cried, and screamed, and hollered! Bottom line the boy got tired of the shelter in short order. Got a job, and got out. That was almost 15 years ago, and we haven't had any problems with him since. Today he owns 5, or 6, traliers in the park where he lives, and rent's them out.

[76Highboy]

I know what you are saying Carver. I know it is her son and she feels that it is his choice not to vote. She also says however, he just can't complain about how things are in our country because he is not a voter. We both agree on that. For me to kick him out, she would never forgive me for that. BUT!!! The next time he wants to be my buddy, I don't have to be. I just prefer to have friends that stand up for their country. The extended family agrees that he is still young and yes I guess that many people don't vote when they are younger but we are talking about someone that is under my roof. So, even though I am not backed in kicking him out I don't have to be his buddy. Which means, GET YOUR OWN TOOLS!!! HAVE YOUR BUDDIES FIX YOUR CAR!!! AND DON'T CRY TO ME BECAUSE YOUR NEW JOB IS GOING TO LET YOU GO CAUSE THEY CANNOT AFFORD TO KEEP YOU (which he really complained about several months ago).

Oh ya, and when the commies come to take our rights he can GET HIS OWN GUN.

[carver]

My wife will probably never forgive me for kicking her son out, but all three of us knew the rules. While she may never forgive me, she can see that what I did made him a better person, and got him off his butt, and on his feet. It's your call, it's your house! But she has got to turn him loose at some point, or he will never grow up!

[jedwil]

There are a whole bunch of folks that I hope won't be voting. I actually had some that lived with me in a former life. Perhaps, your expectations are too high for a large part of our population.

[25yretcoastie]

I don't understand what the agrument is about. Why wouldn't he want to vote, it will effect him more than it may for the older one's here. Even if he votes for Dumbo, at lease he voted. In my house its my rules don't like the rules, find a new place to live. Its That Simple!
Jim if your win or lose the battle at least you gave it a good fight.
BTW How are you feeling one week after?

[hogger129]

Voting for somebody is better than voting for nobody. You could always write in somebody you think could do better. I think it's kind of hypocritical not to vote. Lots of people laid down their lives so that we could exercise that right.

[time2shoot]

If Moma's not happy! nobody in the house is happy.
Pick your battles wisely buddy.
Might be a good idea for the two of you sit down and show him what has hapend in other countrys. when Voting was outlawed, or elections are fixed. Then ask him. You want to live like that?
I would start with Fema camps.
Let him see where he might end up if he lets the Goverment. make his desicions for him. Becouse people would not vote.
Good luck.

[hunter29180]

voting is a personal choice. when you force a person to vote, you (in my mind) just slapped every serviceman who ever died in combat for this country. Why? because they died to protect the choice for ALL of us to vote as we see fit..even to the choice of not to vote at all.

Dont get me wrong..I applaud your belief! Everyone SHOULD vote! but I cannot place myself in the position of forcing someone to do so. remember also if you "WIN" by forcing him to vote you may have just gave Obummer his vote. AS he will likely vote just to spite you..and since you cannot know how he voted, (unless he rubbs your face in it) you have only helped harm your own position!

and the question looms if you support forced voting..whats next that you will be willing to force others to do? isnt this exactly what Obummer is tryong to do?

[Donnie D]

The way I see it, if they are an Obama suporter and they don't vote, that's OK by me.

Donnie D

[steve4102]

if you "WIN" by forcing him to vote you may have just gave Obummer his vote. AS he will likely vote just to spite you..and since you cannot know how he voted, (unless he rubbs your face in it) you have only helped harm your own position!

My thought exactly! I would let him decide on his own without any threats. Inform him all you can and get him on your side, but the threat of eviction can backfire. then you could have an Obama supporter living under your roof.

How old is he?

[76Highboy]

Originally Posted by hunter29180

voting is a personal choice. when you force a person to vote, you (in my mind) just slapped every serviceman who ever died in combat for this country. Why? because they died to protect the choice for ALL of us to vote as we see fit..even to the choice of not to vote at all.
Dont get me wrong..I applaud your belief! Everyone SHOULD vote! but I cannot place myself in the position of forcing someone to do so. remember also if you "WIN" by forcing him to vote you may have just gave Obummer his vote. AS he will likely vote just to spite you..and since you cannot know how he voted, (unless he rubbs your face in it) you have only helped harm your own position!

and the question looms if you support forced voting..whats next that you will be willing to force others to do? isnt this exactly what Obummer is tryong to do?

That is probably the best way to look at it I guess. However, like I say, when we have our next civil war and he comes running to me for help, I will let him know I can't because loan him a gun because the ballot ballot gave us the voting option to share guns and we lost that part of the election. Sorry, go find your own.

Also, momma is happy today so I am happy. Also, I can't wait until the first time he complains about having too much taxes taken out of his paycheck. I will let you guys know when he does. Trust me on that one.