Remove primer before or after tumbling - The Firearms Forum

bizy · 05-31-2009, 07:46 AM

I remove the primer and size the case before I clean the brass. When do you all remove the primer and resize? The reason I do it before is so the brass will be clean with no lubricant left inside or outside so they look like new when I load.

zfk55 · 05-31-2009, 07:58 AM

The main reason I don't is because I use the Dillon 550B and that break in sequence defeats the cycle and efficiency when you're doing a few hundered at once. I also use a lube that isn't sticky, and the only part inside the case that should get lubed is the case mouth. If you use a bench-mounted case mouth brush there should be no problem at all.
That said, I like bright, shiney brass too.

Latigo

Insulation Tim · 05-31-2009, 08:09 AM

I only reload .45 ACP rounds, but I always clean (vibratory tumbler), then de-prime them. That way I'm not pushing all the crud from the outside of the brass into the die. That' s just my preference. I suppose either way works.

Celraysoda · 05-31-2009, 08:12 AM

I generally don't tumble after de-priming. I find that with certain brass, the media loves to get stuck in the primer pockets. Sometimes I do when the brass get's dirty again. Usually a whole lot of tossing the brass in the sifter will get most of the media out in the stuck pockets. Think of flipping an omelete.

carver · 05-31-2009, 08:20 AM

I tumble first, then de-prime, and size. Makes it eaiser, media don't get into the primer pocket. I don't use lube at all, bought me some of them new carbide dies!

BobMcG · 05-31-2009, 08:23 AM

I tumble first.

retired grunt · 05-31-2009, 08:39 AM

Tumble first

cycloneman · 05-31-2009, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by bizy

I remove the primer and size the case before I clean the brass. When do you all remove the primer and resize? The reason I do it before is so the brass will be clean with no lubricant left inside or outside so they look like new when I load.

+1. I do it like that too. single stage press, rifle carts.

RustyFN · 05-31-2009, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bizy

I remove the primer and size the case before I clean the brass. When do you all remove the primer and resize? The reason I do it before is so the brass will be clean with no lubricant left inside or outside so they look like new when I load.

I tumble first. The purpose of cleaning the brass is to keep all the crap out of your sizing die. Sizing first defeats that purpose.
Rusty

DWARREN123 · 05-31-2009, 02:05 PM

I remove after, keeps the flash hole cleaner in my opinion. Easier on the decapping pin.

woolleyworm · 05-31-2009, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RustyFN

I tumble first. The purpose of cleaning the brass is to keep all the crap out of your sizing die. Sizing first defeats that purpose.
Rusty

Gotta agree with that, if I was worried about the case being clean inside and out from case lube, I'd tumble twice; but for me, I'm not that worried about it. Gotta take care of the dies; the cleaner the brass, the less friction and wear on them.

bizy · 06-01-2009, 04:29 AM

I done it both ways. Some of the media does clog the primer hole. But I tested the "WHAT IF THING", I picked out 10 cases that had media in the flash hole. All 10 fired. Not one dud. The primer is very powerful.

Trouble 45-70 · 06-01-2009, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bizy

I done it both ways. Some of the media does clog the primer hole. But I tested the "WHAT IF THING", I picked out 10 cases that had media in the flash hole. All 10 fired. Not one dud. The primer is very powerful.

Never tried it. Good to know. Thanks.

Dirtypacman · 06-01-2009, 01:35 PM

I tumble then deprime - I use a Dillon press also.

howlnmad · 06-01-2009, 03:30 PM

I use a single stage press and de-cap then tumble. After the tumbler they all get wiped off then sized, then trimmed if needed, then the primer pocket gets a brushing and the flash hole de-burred if they haven't already been done. then on with priming. I know it's a lot of extra work but I can be fussy.

05-31-2009, 07:46 AM	#1
bizy V.I.P. Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Marlow, Ok Posts: 344	Remove primer before or after tumbling I remove the primer and size the case before I clean the brass. When do you all remove the primer and resize? The reason I do it before is so the brass will be clean with no lubricant left inside or outside so they look like new when I load. -->

05-31-2009, 07:58 AM	#2
zfk55 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Lost Prairie Montana Posts: 237	Re: Remove primer before or after tumbling The main reason I don't is because I use the Dillon 550B and that break in sequence defeats the cycle and efficiency when you're doing a few hundered at once. I also use a lube that isn't sticky, and the only part inside the case that should get lubed is the case mouth. If you use a bench-mounted case mouth brush there should be no problem at all. That said, I like bright, shiney brass too. Latigo __________________ Latigo A Montanan and an actual American with a real American Birth Certificate.

05-31-2009, 08:09 AM	#3
Insulation Tim Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Ohio Contributor Posts: 2,315	Re: Remove primer before or after tumbling I only reload .45 ACP rounds, but I always clean (vibratory tumbler), then de-prime them. That way I'm not pushing all the crud from the outside of the brass into the die. That' s just my preference. I suppose either way works. __________________ Tim *"Remember the Ark was built by amateurs....Professionals built the Titanic"*

05-31-2009, 08:12 AM	#4
Celraysoda Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Northern New Jersey Posts: 17	Re: Remove primer before or after tumbling I generally don't tumble after de-priming. I find that with certain brass, the media loves to get stuck in the primer pockets. Sometimes I do when the brass get's dirty again. Usually a whole lot of tossing the brass in the sifter will get most of the media out in the stuck pockets. Think of flipping an omelete. __________________ Girlfriend: "Uh! Another gun? What is that ugly thing?" Me: "It's an M1 Garand!" Girlfriend: "Why do you need that?" Me: "For when the zombies come." Girlfriend: "Okay..."

05-31-2009, 08:20 AM	#5
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,542	Re: Remove primer before or after tumbling I tumble first, then de-prime, and size. Makes it eaiser, media don't get into the primer pocket. I don't use lube at all, bought me some of them new carbide dies! __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.

05-31-2009, 08:23 AM	#6
BobMcG Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Somewhere in the Twilight Zone. Contributor Posts: 1,119	Re: Remove primer before or after tumbling I tumble first.

05-31-2009, 08:39 AM	#7
retired grunt V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Northern NY Posts: 416	Re: Remove primer before or after tumbling Tumble first

05-31-2009, 02:05 PM	#10
DWARREN123 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: BETWEEN TN & KY Posts: 764	Re: Remove primer before or after tumbling I remove after, keeps the flash hole cleaner in my opinion. Easier on the decapping pin. __________________ Have a nice day!

06-01-2009, 04:29 AM	#12
bizy V.I.P. Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Marlow, Ok Posts: 344	Re: Remove primer before or after tumbling I done it both ways. Some of the media does clog the primer hole. But I tested the "WHAT IF THING", I picked out 10 cases that had media in the flash hole. All 10 fired. Not one dud. The primer is very powerful.

06-01-2009, 01:35 PM	#14
Dirtypacman Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Merrimac Valley, MA Posts: 908	Re: Remove primer before or after tumbling I tumble then deprime - I use a Dillon press also. __________________ Member HHRG and HSC, NRA Life Member, GOAL Member LTC-A

06-01-2009, 03:30 PM	#15
howlnmad Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Harriman, Tn Contributor Posts: 2,637	Re: Remove primer before or after tumbling I use a single stage press and de-cap then tumble. After the tumbler they all get wiped off then sized, then trimmed if needed, then the primer pocket gets a brushing and the flash hole de-burred if they haven't already been done. then on with priming. I know it's a lot of extra work but I can be fussy. __________________