The Firearms Forum - Gun Community  
TheFirearmsForum.com
FOUNDED: February 9, 2001
If you prefer to make a donation by check,
send an email to Support for the mailing address.

Go Back   The Firearms Forum - Gun Community > Member Discussions > The Fire For Effect and Totally Politically Incorrect Forum

Notices


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 12-22-2009, 06:59 AM   #1
topper
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: deep in the woods
Posts: 748
Default one person

What can one person accomplish? I am so disturbed by the current events of this great nation. But everyday seems to bring worse and worse news about what is happening in Congress. We seem to be in a losing battle and have nowhere and no one to turn to. What can we do? Our congress is out of control, unemployment is raging, inflation is creeping up, seniors are being denied COLA in their SS payments, Forced healthcare is looming on the immediate horizon, Veterns are finding massive cuts in care, Taxes are all but impossible to bear with, and everyday or current prez seems to come up with more and more insane and expensive ideas to destroy america and it's people. I am sick and tired of this BS. It is way out of control and i'm so blind with rage that it is unreal. BUT, What can one person do? I contact my congressperson and all I get is a form letter or a 'form letter' response email. No one seems to get a rats rear about our country and it's slipping away from us faster than ever. What can one person do? Organization of people is fine in theory, but from the people that I have talked to, they are all for the idea of some form organization, but as soon as money is mentioned to get things started, they have a host of excuses. In short, no one wants to help out if it involves money or time or talent or anything that requires a person to get off their fat rear and do anything, including making phone calls or writing letters. What can one person do? No one wants to get their name involved possibly for fear of government reprisals. I gotta wonder if it was like that in the 1700's when Americans wanted to overthrow the British? Apparently some folks got involved because we became a nation in our own right. But now we need to straighten out the evil in our country and regain our greatness, but how? What can one person do? Anyone have any good ideas? Speak up, all comments are welcome.

-->
topper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-22-2009, 07:38 AM   #2
jondar
V.I.P. Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 461
Default Re: one person

I share your sentiments, and at times the rage you feel. I've read that during the American Revolution, twenty-five percent of the people favored revolting, twenty-five percent favored not revolting and fifty percent coudn't care less one way or the other. I think it's much like this today with the current people who ride in the wagon and won't push.

I've voted Republican since I was old enough to, and owned guns since I was eleven. But I've come to realize that the Republican party has changed and in the last election I voted, holding my nose, for a weak candidate who had no chance of winning.

I am fortunate where I live that both my Senators and all Reps but one are conservative. What it boils down to is that all of us who talk the talk have to walk the walk and get out and vote, no matter what the odds are, and if we don't, then we have no right to complain. Let's vote in 2010 and get these maggots out of office. And then in 2012 do the same to the Annointed.
jondar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-22-2009, 07:48 AM   #3
ampaterry
*TFF Admin Staff Chaplain*
 
ampaterry's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: West Tennessee
Contributor
Posts: 6,376
Default Re: one person

Topper, you are certainly not alone; there are a LOT of folk around the country that share your frustration from feeling inneffective and helpless to avoid the impending train-wreck that our country is racing toward. We have a full head of steam, hundreds of guys collecting our fares and shoveling more coal into the firebox, and we are all back in the passenger section pulling on that useless cable and screaming to STOP!

We can prepare physically.
Have a bug-out kit, and firm family plans in place concerning what each member is to do if the SHTF when they are away from home, at work, at school, or etc.
Membership in local groups of like-minded individuals is a consideration.

We can prepare psychologically.
We must understand that the time may come to do things which are repugnant to us, but recognize that we must do them if the situation calls for it.

We can prepare spiritually.
We must clean up our lives from our failures and get right with God.

And we must work, every day, to try to regain control of the process that has brought us to this state. Investigating, educating, lobying, campaigning, and VOTING.
__________________

Reason given by one of Obama's more intellectual supporters when asked why she voted for him:
"He gave me a PHONE!!"
ampaterry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-22-2009, 09:11 AM   #4
carver
*TFF Moderator/Host*
 
carver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA
Contributor
Posts: 11,542
Default Re: one person

Quote:
Originally Posted by topper View Post
What can one person accomplish? I am so disturbed by the current events of this great nation. But everyday seems to bring worse and worse news about what is happening in Congress. We seem to be in a losing battle and have nowhere and no one to turn to. What can we do? Our congress is out of control, unemployment is raging, inflation is creeping up, seniors are being denied COLA in their SS payments, Forced healthcare is looming on the immediate horizon, Veterns are finding massive cuts in care, Taxes are all but impossible to bear with, and everyday or current prez seems to come up with more and more insane and expensive ideas to destroy america and it's people. I am sick and tired of this BS. It is way out of control and i'm so blind with rage that it is unreal. BUT, What can one person do? I contact my congressperson and all I get is a form letter or a 'form letter' response email. No one seems to get a rats rear about our country and it's slipping away from us faster than ever. What can one person do? Organization of people is fine in theory, but from the people that I have talked to, they are all for the idea of some form organization, but as soon as money is mentioned to get things started, they have a host of excuses. In short, no one wants to help out if it involves money or time or talent or anything that requires a person to get off their fat rear and do anything, including making phone calls or writing letters. What can one person do? No one wants to get their name involved possibly for fear of government reprisals. I gotta wonder if it was like that in the 1700's when Americans wanted to overthrow the British? Apparently some folks got involved because we became a nation in our own right. But now we need to straighten out the evil in our country and regain our greatness, but how? What can one person do? Anyone have any good ideas? Speak up, all comments are welcome.
Topper, you are not alone. Like you, and many others here, I have seen this comming for a long time. I talked to people, anyone, and no body seemed to care. Last year I joined a Tea Party group. Jumped in with both feet, and am having a great time. These are people that feel the same way I do, and want the same things for this country that I want. If we stand alone, we are not a power, but if we band together in numbers, we are then a force to recon with. 2 million showed up for the march on D.C. back in September. Each one of us represented at least 20 or 30 more back home that felt the same way we did, but were unable to make the march. Take the plunge, get involved! We need for everyone that thinks the way we do to get involved. The greater the numbers the greater the impact on those that were elected to serve us. When, and if, our numbers get large enough, they will listen to us, or go to the head of the unemployment line.
__________________
Y'all be safe now, ya hear!

Lamentations Chapter 5:
1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach.
2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens.
3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows.
5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest.
16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned!
21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.
carver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-22-2009, 11:43 AM   #5
cakes
V.I.P. Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Northern Maine
Posts: 230
Default Re: one person

What can one person do?

1: Vote.

2: Run for office.

3: Leave.


I guess there is the other option of shutting up and taking whatever they dish out, but that would be what 'they' prefer (whoever 'they' are in your eyes).

I am not referring to anyone specific, just in general.
__________________
If at first you don't succeed, shoot, shoot again.
cakes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-22-2009, 01:24 PM   #6
rentalguy1
Former Guest
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: The mountains of NE TN.
Posts: 884
Default Re: one person

4: Fight back...
rentalguy1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-22-2009, 01:35 PM   #7
Hardballer
V.I.P. Member
 
Hardballer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Smack dab in da middle
Posts: 471
Default Re: one person

Quote:
Originally Posted by cakes View Post
What can one person do?

1: Vote.

2: Run for office.

3: Leave.


I guess there is the other option of shutting up and taking whatever they dish out, but that would be what 'they' prefer (whoever 'they' are in your eyes).

I am not referring to anyone specific, just in general.
Quote:
Originally Posted by rentalguy1 View Post
4: Fight back...
Like he said, there is one more option of last resort. One road I personally hope we never have to take. Sigh. . . But if need be. . . .
Hardballer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-22-2009, 03:10 PM   #8
Eddie N
Advanced Senior Member
 
Eddie N's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Colorado
Contributor
Posts: 1,192
Default Re: one person

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hardballer View Post
Like he said, there is one more option of last resort. One road I personally hope we never have to take. Sigh. . . But if need be. . . .
That makes two of us, my friend.
Eddie N is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-22-2009, 03:20 PM   #9
killbuck
V.I.P. Member
 
killbuck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: WNY (In the Snow Belt)
Posts: 328
Default Re: one person

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eddie N View Post
That makes two of us, my friend.
Three
killbuck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-22-2009, 03:31 PM   #10
40CalJoe
V.I.P. Member
 
40CalJoe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: In the middle
Posts: 421
Default Re: one person

Quote:
Originally Posted by killbuck View Post
Three
Four of us.

We must fight the political battles right now to wrest control from the socialists and commies. We can't let the feeling of apathy cloud our judgement any longer. We can do something about it. Vote. Encourage others. Establish a dialogue with your elected officials.

We are a nation whose government is of the people, for the people and by the people. Obviously Washington thinks its all about them. Remind them who the boss is come next November.
__________________
I will give hussein obama exactly the same respect liberals gave George W Bush: NONE.
40CalJoe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-22-2009, 04:05 PM   #11
ampaterry
*TFF Admin Staff Chaplain*
 
ampaterry's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: West Tennessee
Contributor
Posts: 6,376
Default Re: one person

Five -

Doing the box waltz -

Soap first, Ballot second, cartridge as last resort -
__________________

Reason given by one of Obama's more intellectual supporters when asked why she voted for him:
"He gave me a PHONE!!"
ampaterry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-22-2009, 06:08 PM   #12
Bobitis
Advanced Senior Member
 
Bobitis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 6,612
Default Re: one person

Two Million patriots marched on Washington and it was 2nd page news for a couple days.
The POTUS ran away like a dog with his tail tucked away, and the media was clamped down and blew it off. Even FOX was not exempt.

We have come to the end times of our nation as we knew it.
__________________
^.^

A point in every direction is the same as having no point at all
Bobitis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-23-2009, 04:43 AM   #13
topper
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: deep in the woods
Posts: 748
Default Re: one person

I suppose I was just venting. I am physically unable to attend much. Leaving home is a chore reserved to special occasions like the doctor or hospital, and being retired I am on limited income. That leaves, writing letters, making calls, and just in general griping about the situation. If the SHTF, I can hold up for a while, but there are limits to that. I am just so incesed about how the lack of care for the current problems there is. Just reading the paper and watch the news occasionally, it just galls me to see the nation slid further and further away from the american people. I will do whatever I am able to do, both physically (which is very little) and financial ( also very little), but most folks I talk to don't even want to get involved at all. Their attitude toward this major problem with our country is appaling, to say the least. I guess, it's back to the desk to write more letters and send more E-mails and make more phone calls. You all have a nice day.
topper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-23-2009, 07:37 AM   #14
graehaven
Advanced Senior Member
 
graehaven's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 2,853
Default Re: one person

Unfortunately, many feel this way.

The first step is to accept that the death of the country is inevitable. America is getting CHANGE, just not the one it thought. By the time the majority realize it, it will be too late. Essentially, I'll bottom line it: it's TOO LATE.

Those who think that things can get turned around in the 2010 elections are fooling themselves. It's TOO LATE.

Once one accepts this, one is better able to move on and prepare for what's coming. What's coming? Imagine the worst things possible - and prepare for that - because it will be WORSE than that. Essentially, there is no way to fully prepare for the death of a nation, especially when there is nowhere else to run to.

Fa la la la laaa la la la laaaaaaaaa!
__________________
The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." - Thomas Jefferson

RESISTANCE IS FEUDAL... PREPARE TO SERVE.

Last edited by graehaven; 12-23-2009 at 07:38 AM..
graehaven is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-23-2009, 07:43 AM   #15
rentalguy1
Former Guest
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: The mountains of NE TN.
Posts: 884
Default Re: one person

Quote:
Originally Posted by graehaven View Post
Those who think that things can get turned around in the 2010 elections are fooling themselves. It's TOO LATE.

Once one accepts this, one is better able to move on and prepare for what's coming. What's coming? Imagine the worst things possible - and prepare for that - because it will be WORSE than that. Essentially, there is no way to fully prepare for the death of a nation, especially when there is nowhere else to run to.
Thank you! These are my sentiments. I will add that I am tired of talking to people who do not listen, and I am tired of writing to people who either cannot read, or do not care what I have written. IF we make it to the 2010 elections, we may have a chance. That would be great. If we don't, and I believe that we will not, then we will have a fight on our hands of biblical proportions. I honestly don't care one way or the other any more. I hit a complete political shutdown a few months ago.

Last edited by rentalguy1; 12-23-2009 at 09:29 AM..
rentalguy1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-23-2009, 10:17 AM   #16
topper
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: deep in the woods
Posts: 748
Default Re: one person

rentalguy1, as the old saying goes...GIVE OUT, BUT DON'T GIVE UP. Hope is one thing we will always have. I feel sometimes like telling myself just 'don't worry about it', but then I hear of some new boneheaded proposal from the evil politicians and i'm back on my soapbox. Maybe they are actually doing me a favor by keeping me fired up. It's good for the blood circulation.
topper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-23-2009, 05:02 PM   #17
Hardballer
V.I.P. Member
 
Hardballer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Smack dab in da middle
Posts: 471
Default Re: one person

Quote:
Originally Posted by graehaven View Post
Unfortunately, many feel this way.

The first step is to accept that the death of the country is inevitable. America is getting CHANGE, just not the one it thought. By the time the majority realize it, it will be too late. Essentially, I'll bottom line it: it's TOO LATE.

Those who think that things can get turned around in the 2010 elections are fooling themselves. It's TOO LATE.

Once one accepts this, one is better able to move on and prepare for what's coming. What's coming? Imagine the worst things possible - and prepare for that - because it will be WORSE than that. Essentially, there is no way to fully prepare for the death of a nation, especially when there is nowhere else to run to.

Fa la la la laaa la la la laaaaaaaaa!
I've been sayin' this for a long time. I am deeply saddened to see my country, the country dreamed of and built by a group of brave men 230 plus years past. A dream that is now turning into a nightmare.

Quote:
Originally Posted by rentalguy1 View Post
Thank you! These are my sentiments. I will add that I am tired of talking to people who do not listen, and I am tired of writing to people who either cannot read, or do not care what I have written. IF we make it to the 2010 elections, we may have a chance. That would be great. If we don't, and I believe that we will not, then we will have a fight on our hands of biblical proportions. I honestly don't care one way or the other any more. I hit a complete political shutdown a few months ago.
This, I understand completely. The truth of it is that we just have to keep disseminating the information, shouting the message from our rooftops if need be. The apathy you witness today is purely a byproduct of a world awash in comfort and supposed security.

I said early on that not much would change until folks had to start giving up their homes, Chevy Tahoes, Dancing With the Stars, eating on a regular basis etc.

Short of that, folks just can not imagine that it is possible for our country to go where it is clearly headed. Only an illiterate, blind man could possibly miss the calamity that befalls us.

The fleeting pleasures afforded us in November of 2010 will not make up for the damage done. The Constitution has been nullified. It's not that it is going to happen, it has happened. Voting for a new set of robber barons will accomplish little. Just as Obummer has followed through with G.W. Bush's program, so shall the next puppet.

For G-d's sake, he gave away your kid's and grand kid's and great grand kid's inheritance. He gave it to an insurance company so they could pay Goldman Sachs their due. OMG! This really happened. Trillions and trillions more in the pipeline. This all happened to assuage the banksters.

He bankrupted a nation, plunged the population into a debt of almost unimaginable size and seized powers by appointment to put into place a plan of which is only just now beginning to come to fruition.


Barack Obama
1001 - Executive Order 13524 - Amending Executive Order 12425 Designating Interpol as a Public International Organization Entitled To Enjoy Certain Privileges, Exemptions, and Immunities
December 16, 2009

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including section 1 of the International Organizations Immunities Act (22 U.S.C. 288), and in order to extend the appropriate privileges, exemptions, and immunities to the International Criminal Police Organization (INTERPOL), it is hereby ordered that Executive Order 12425 of June 16, 1983, as amended, is further amended by deleting from the first sentence the words "except those provided by Section 2(c), Section 3, Section 4, Section 5, and Section 6 of that Act" and the semicolon that immediately precedes them.

BARACK OBAMA

The White House,

December 16, 2009.

Tip of the iceberg. Allows for Interpol to operate within our borders with impunity.

We all need to be talking to each other on a shortwave set.
Hardballer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-23-2009, 05:10 PM   #18
hogger129
Advanced Senior Member
 
hogger129's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 4,078
Default Re: one person

Quote:
Originally Posted by topper View Post
What can one person accomplish? I am so disturbed by the current events of this great nation. But everyday seems to bring worse and worse news about what is happening in Congress. We seem to be in a losing battle and have nowhere and no one to turn to. What can we do? Our congress is out of control, unemployment is raging, inflation is creeping up, seniors are being denied COLA in their SS payments, Forced healthcare is looming on the immediate horizon, Veterns are finding massive cuts in care, Taxes are all but impossible to bear with, and everyday or current prez seems to come up with more and more insane and expensive ideas to destroy america and it's people. I am sick and tired of this BS. It is way out of control and i'm so blind with rage that it is unreal. BUT, What can one person do? I contact my congressperson and all I get is a form letter or a 'form letter' response email. No one seems to get a rats rear about our country and it's slipping away from us faster than ever. What can one person do? Organization of people is fine in theory, but from the people that I have talked to, they are all for the idea of some form organization, but as soon as money is mentioned to get things started, they have a host of excuses. In short, no one wants to help out if it involves money or time or talent or anything that requires a person to get off their fat rear and do anything, including making phone calls or writing letters. What can one person do? No one wants to get their name involved possibly for fear of government reprisals. I gotta wonder if it was like that in the 1700's when Americans wanted to overthrow the British? Apparently some folks got involved because we became a nation in our own right. But now we need to straighten out the evil in our country and regain our greatness, but how? What can one person do? Anyone have any good ideas? Speak up, all comments are welcome.
Gather up a giant group of people across the country, millions if possible and write up a giant petition about all this stuff and what they need to do differently. That's what the colonists did when England started kicking them around. They shared their disappointment with the King. And you know where the story went from there. That's why they have recalls. I don't know if you could recall the President, but he isn't above the law is he? The thing people lack is organization. Together we stand, divided we fall.
__________________
Samuel Adams once said, "among the natural rights of the colonists are these: first, a right to life, secondly to liberty, thirdly to property; together with the right to defend them in the best manner they can."
hogger129 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-23-2009, 06:39 PM   #19
armedandsafe
Former Guest
 
armedandsafe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Moses Lake, WA
Posts: 10,344
Default Re: one person

To my understanding, the President can be "recalled" only by impeachment by the House and conviction by the Senate.

Recall of Congressmen and Senators is by voting in replacements or by the respective body rejecting them.

If I misunderstand this, somebody jump in here and enlighten me.

Pops
armedandsafe is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:16 AM.

STILL SEARCHING FOR SOMETHING? TRY THE TFF "GOOGLE" SEARCH ENGINE BELOW!
Google

Copyright ©2002 - 2013, TheFirearmsForum.Com