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HiSpeed · 02-28-2007, 02:35 PM

Bill would mandate nicer term for illegals
By Bill Cotterell
news-press.com Tallahassee bureau
Originally posted on February 27, 2007

TALLAHASSEE -- A state legislator whose district is home to thousands of Caribbean immigrants wants to ban the term "illegal alien" from the state's official documents.

"I personally find the word 'alien' offensive when applied to individuals, especially to children," said Sen. Frederica Wilson, D-Miami. "An alien to me is someone from out of space."

She has introduced a bill providing that: "A state agency or official may not use the term 'illegal alien' in an official document of the state." There would be no penalty for using the words.

In Miami-Dade County, Wilson said, "we don't say 'alien,' we say 'immigrant.'"

She said she encountered the situation when trying to pass a bill allowing children of foreigners to get in-state tuition at colleges and universities. Wilson, who directs a dropout prevention and education program in Miami, said she politely asks witnesses at public hearings on such issues not to use the term.

"There are students in our schools whose parents are trying to become citizens and we shouldn't label them," she said. "They are immigrants, through no fault of their own, not aliens."

Wilson said the first word isn't as bad as the second.

"'Illegal,' I can live with, but I like 'undocumented' better," she said.

Asked if her bill (SB 2154) might run afoul of Gov. Charlie Crist's "plain speaking" mandate for government agencies, Wilson said, "I think getting rid of 'alien' would be plain speaking."

I think getting rid of idiot politicians would be plainly speakling. Where do we get these clowns.

berto64 · 02-28-2007, 03:31 PM

Just so she stays down in Flarda.

Bet she'd have a hissy fit over 'wetback'.

DWARREN123 · 02-28-2007, 03:59 PM

Maybe she is from outer space. Sure acts like it!

JLA · 02-28-2007, 04:03 PM

i cant help but ask myself when these people are going to realize that no matter who you are, where youre from, or what color your skin is, WE ARE ALL ALIENS in some way. perhaps senator frederica wilson and her faithful followers should break-out a good old fashioned dictionary and look up the terms "illegal" and "alien"... maybe they'd realize that those terms are as good a terms as any...

Marlin T · 02-28-2007, 04:27 PM

Typical Democrat, whatever 'sounds' bad, or it might cause them to feel bad, or by changing the defination so that it might be easier to welcome ILLEGAL ALIENS into our society. What a joke.

There is no logic in this. Why doesn't she try to be more productive and get these MEXICAN NATIONAL ILLEGAL ALIENS to become citizens? If they don't want to be call ILLEGAL ALIENS they can change there situation by being here LEGALLY or by going home.

Shooter973 · 02-28-2007, 05:20 PM

Gee we wouldn't want to hurt the Illegal Aliens feelings!!!

After all they have had a hard time getting here, being Illegal and all, breaking several laws along the way!!!

Lets just be nicer to them and maybe they will not invite millions more here!!!

Typical Democrat Crap. Feel good legislation that doesnt address the real problem in anyway!!!

Bruce FLinch · 02-28-2007, 10:07 PM

Make'm all citizens, so we can be sure they don't spank their children.

Another buttwipe Politician

durk · 02-28-2007, 10:13 PM

How about criminal aliens? Or, criminal immigrants?

White Hawk · 03-01-2007, 12:12 AM

It's all in the marketing, huh? I used to wonder why right-wingers tended to be engineers and pilots and such, while left-wingers ended up in marketing, journalism, and government agencies.

How about we call them "gone"?

Marlin · 03-01-2007, 10:54 AM

I think calling them anything other than WHAT THEY ARE, is like the bumper sticker White Hawk posted in another thread:

"Calling illegal aliens 'undocumented workers' is like calling rapists 'uninvited sex partners'."

armedandsafe · 03-01-2007, 02:03 PM

See my sig regarding this subject.

Pops

Thunderhawk88 · 03-01-2007, 06:28 PM

Quote:

no matter who you are, where youre from, or what color your skin is, WE ARE ALL ALIENS in some way

Not me, I was born here, and that's the point, they weren't! So they are aliens!

Deputy Dawg · 03-01-2007, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marlin

I think calling them anything other than WHAT THEY ARE, is like the bumper sticker White Hawk posted in another thread:

"Calling illegal aliens 'undocumented workers' is like calling rapists 'uninvited sex partners'."

I agree.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

02-28-2007, 02:35 PM	#1
HiSpeed V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Pace, Florida area Posts: 324	Nicer Illegals Bill would mandate nicer term for illegals By Bill Cotterell news-press.com Tallahassee bureau Originally posted on February 27, 2007 TALLAHASSEE -- A state legislator whose district is home to thousands of Caribbean immigrants wants to ban the term "illegal alien" from the state's official documents. "I personally find the word 'alien' offensive when applied to individuals, especially to children," said Sen. Frederica Wilson, D-Miami. "An alien to me is someone from out of space." She has introduced a bill providing that: "A state agency or official may not use the term 'illegal alien' in an official document of the state." There would be no penalty for using the words. In Miami-Dade County, Wilson said, "we don't say 'alien,' we say 'immigrant.'" She said she encountered the situation when trying to pass a bill allowing children of foreigners to get in-state tuition at colleges and universities. Wilson, who directs a dropout prevention and education program in Miami, said she politely asks witnesses at public hearings on such issues not to use the term. "There are students in our schools whose parents are trying to become citizens and we shouldn't label them," she said. "They are immigrants, through no fault of their own, not aliens." Wilson said the first word isn't as bad as the second. "'Illegal,' I can live with, but I like 'undocumented' better," she said. Asked if her bill (SB 2154) might run afoul of Gov. Charlie Crist's "plain speaking" mandate for government agencies, Wilson said, "I think getting rid of 'alien' would be plain speaking." I think getting rid of idiot politicians would be plainly speakling. Where do we get these clowns. __________________ "mac" NRA Life Member GOA Member There are no problems in life that cannot be solved by the proper application of C-4 on target! -->

02-28-2007, 03:31 PM	#2
berto64 VMBB Admin Staff Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Owyhee County, Idaho Contributor Posts: 7,385	Re: Nicer Illegals Just so she stays down in Flarda. Bet she'd have a hissy fit over 'wetback'. __________________ Be who you are & say what you will, Those that matter won't mind and those that mind don't matter. I'm a bitter clinger, One Nation Under God.

02-28-2007, 03:59 PM	#3
DWARREN123 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: BETWEEN TN & KY Posts: 764	Re: Nicer Illegals Maybe she is from outer space. Sure acts like it! __________________ Have a nice day!

02-28-2007, 04:03 PM	#4
JLA TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Heart Of Texas Contributor Posts: 17,308	Re: Nicer Illegals i cant help but ask myself when these people are going to realize that no matter who you are, where youre from, or what color your skin is, WE ARE ALL ALIENS in some way. perhaps senator frederica wilson and her faithful followers should break-out a good old fashioned dictionary and look up the terms "illegal" and "alien"... maybe they'd realize that those terms are as good a terms as any...

02-28-2007, 04:27 PM	#5
Marlin T Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New Mexico Posts: 7,857	Re: Nicer Illegals Typical Democrat, whatever 'sounds' bad, or it might cause them to feel bad, or by changing the defination so that it might be easier to welcome ILLEGAL ALIENS into our society. What a joke. There is no logic in this. Why doesn't she try to be more productive and get these MEXICAN NATIONAL ILLEGAL ALIENS to become citizens? If they don't want to be call ILLEGAL ALIENS they can change there situation by being here LEGALLY or by going home. __________________ "But the simple truth--born of experience--is that tyranny thrives best where government need not fear the wrath of an armed people." Judge Alex Kozinski - United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government. - Thomas Paine Did you read todays GOOD shooting? >>>KEEPANDBEARARMS.COM <<<

02-28-2007, 05:20 PM	#6
Shooter973 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Ogden, Utah Home of John M. Browning Posts: 96	Re: Nicer Illegals Gee we wouldn't want to hurt the Illegal Aliens feelings!!! After all they have had a hard time getting here, being Illegal and all, breaking several laws along the way!!! Lets just be nicer to them and maybe they will not invite millions more here!!! Typical Democrat Crap. Feel good legislation that doesnt address the real problem in anyway!!! __________________ The problem with America is stupidity. I'm not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?

02-28-2007, 10:07 PM	#7
Bruce FLinch Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bay Point, Kali..aka Gun Point Posts: 5,016	Re: Nicer Illegals Make'm all citizens, so we can be sure they don't spank their children. Another buttwipe Politician __________________ A bad day @ the Range, is better than a good day @ work.

02-28-2007, 10:13 PM	#8
durk Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 2,026	Re: Nicer Illegals How about criminal aliens? Or, criminal immigrants? __________________ Durk

03-01-2007, 12:12 AM	#9
White Hawk V.I.P. Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 458	Re: Nicer Illegals It's all in the marketing, huh? I used to wonder why right-wingers tended to be engineers and pilots and such, while left-wingers ended up in marketing, journalism, and government agencies. How about we call them "gone"? __________________ Remember the good old days, when everything said "Made In Japan" on it?

03-01-2007, 10:54 AM	#10
Marlin TFF Admin Staff Chief Counselor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: At SouthernMoss' side forever! Contributor Posts: 13,853	Re: Nicer Illegals I think calling them anything other than WHAT THEY ARE, is like the bumper sticker White Hawk posted in another thread: "Calling illegal aliens 'undocumented workers' is like calling rapists 'uninvited sex partners'." __________________ *The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing.* *The only criminal class native to the United States is Congress.*

03-01-2007, 02:03 PM	#11
armedandsafe Former Guest Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Moses Lake, WA Posts: 10,344	Re: Nicer Illegals See my sig regarding this subject. Pops