WCC 89 38 special Cases - The Firearms Forum

nevadal · 07-19-2012, 02:31 PM

A friend got married and was getting rid of all of his brass.

in the mix was a pretty good quantity of 38 special cases with the headstamp
of WCC89, I know that it was made by Western Carteridge Co. in 89.

I didn't went to take a chance on ruining a die so I punched out a couple of
primers with an ice pick.

They only have one flash hole.

Is it OK to use the regular deprimer that is with the sizing die.

I'm not sure wheather this is military or not.

Thanks

X Ring · 07-19-2012, 02:50 PM

Yes, even if they are military and the primers crimped in, the sizing die will decap them.

JLA · 07-19-2012, 07:27 PM

I have some. it is good brass.

Next time you need to see how many flash holes a piece of brass has just look down into the empty case with a flashlight.

woolleyworm · 07-19-2012, 07:56 PM

If I'm uncertain if a primer is crimped or not, I will use my universal decapping die. This avoids breaking the decapping pin in my size die and if I have a bunch of mixed brass to de-prime, I can do it without changing my die, just the shell holder.

JLA · 07-19-2012, 09:38 PM

excellent advice worm. BTW, we missed you coming to the range week after 4th of july..

Twicepop · 07-21-2012, 10:48 PM

I've used this brass for several years. The primer can be punched out with a regular sizing/decapping die with no problems, and yes the primers are crimped in place with this brass. The crimp can be removed by reaming or by swaging, just as you would any other military brass. I'm a little unclear about the need to change the shellholder, I use the same one as for for .38 Spl. and .357 Mag

those who beat their guns into plowshares, will plow for those who didn't

X Ring · 07-22-2012, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Twicepop

I'm a little unclear about the need to change the shellholder, I use the same one as for for .38 Spl. and .357 Mag

I think he is talking about mixed calibers, not just mixed headstamps.

nevadal · 07-23-2012, 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twicepop

I've used this brass for several years. The primer can be punched out with a regular sizing/decapping die with no problems, and yes the primers are crimped in place with this brass. The crimp can be removed by reaming or by swaging, just as you would any other military brass. I'm a little unclear about the need to change the shellholder, I use the same one as for for .38 Spl. and .357 Mag

those who beat their guns into plowshares, will plow for those who didn't

Hey, thanks, you are right, the casing will not allow me to insert a primer.
guess I'll have to get a reamer...any suggestions which one to get...I don't want to throw away several hundred casings.

JLA · 07-23-2012, 10:01 PM

you probably already have one nevadal and you dont realize it.. Use the inside chamfer end of your casemouth chamfer tool. It cuts the crimp off the primer pockets nicely

nevadal · 07-24-2012, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by JLA

you probably already have one nevadal and you dont realize it.. Use the inside chamfer end of your casemouth chamfer tool. It cuts the crimp off the primer pockets nicely

Yep, thanks JLA, it works like a charm, many thanks.
Hope I will be able to stick around and help other newbies like y'all have helped me

howlnmad · 07-24-2012, 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by JLA

you probably already have one nevadal and you dont realize it.. Use the inside chamfer end of your casemouth chamfer tool. It cuts the crimp off the primer pockets nicely

And if you have a lot of them to do and your hands cramp up, go to the hardware store and pick up a countersink. Chuck it up in a hand drill or drill press and zoom zoom, you're done.

nevadal · 07-24-2012, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twicepop

I've used this brass for several years. The primer can be punched out with a regular sizing/decapping die with no problems, and yes the primers are crimped in place with this brass. The crimp can be removed by reaming or by swaging, just as you would any other military brass. I'm a little unclear about the need to change the shellholder, I use the same one as for for .38 Spl. and .357 Mag

those who beat their guns into plowshares, will plow for those who didn't

The chamfer tools works fine, but just out of curiosity, exactly where is the
crimp in the military brass, I have studied the brass with a crimp in it, with a magnifying glass, and can't see it

Twicepop · 07-24-2012, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nevadal

Hey, thanks, you are right, the casing will not allow me to insert a primer.
guess I'll have to get a reamer...any suggestions which one to get...I don't want to throw away several hundred casings.

I have a Lyman made/sold reamer that works very well. Look in their product line to see if they still offer it, I've had mine 20+ years. I think C-H may offer one as well.

those who beat their guns into plowshares, will plow for those who didn't

JLA · 07-25-2012, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nevadal

The chamfer tools works fine, but just out of curiosity, exactly where is the
crimp in the military brass, I have studied the brass with a crimp in it, with a magnifying glass, and can't see it

Its right around the edge of the primer pocket. look closely it will kinda have a step and the edge will be very sharp. you want that edge chamfered back so a new primer can glide in easily.

nevadal · 07-25-2012, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JLA

Its right around the edge of the primer pocket. look closely it will kinda have a step and the edge will be very sharp. you want that edge chamfered back so a new primer can glide in easily.

Thanks, you are correct, you have to look very closely

07-19-2012, 02:31 PM	#1
nevadal V.I.P. Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Nevada Posts: 128	WCC 89 38 special Cases A friend got married and was getting rid of all of his brass. in the mix was a pretty good quantity of 38 special cases with the headstamp of WCC89, I know that it was made by Western Carteridge Co. in 89. I didn't went to take a chance on ruining a die so I punched out a couple of primers with an ice pick. They only have one flash hole. Is it OK to use the regular deprimer that is with the sizing die. I'm not sure wheather this is military or not. Thanks -->

07-19-2012, 02:50 PM	#2
X Ring V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 188	Re: WCC 89 38 special Cases Yes, even if they are military and the primers crimped in, the sizing die will decap them. __________________ Load More = Shoot More http://s1096.photobucket.com/albums/g327/Wynn3/

07-19-2012, 07:27 PM	#3
JLA TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Heart Of Texas Contributor Posts: 17,317	Re: WCC 89 38 special Cases I have some. it is good brass. Next time you need to see how many flash holes a piece of brass has just look down into the empty case with a flashlight. __________________ It takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 3 for proper trigger squeeze. The latest caliber or gear is no substitute for experience and skill. Rifles and cartridges don't make hits -- shooters do. Fact of life: After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!

07-19-2012, 07:56 PM	#4
woolleyworm TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SW Fort Worth Contributor Posts: 4,883	Re: WCC 89 38 special Cases If I'm uncertain if a primer is crimped or not, I will use my universal decapping die. This avoids breaking the decapping pin in my size die and if I have a bunch of mixed brass to de-prime, I can do it without changing my die, just the shell holder. __________________ . What are you gonna do, talk the alien to death? -- (on Sigourney Weaver's worry about Guns in Aliens) "Safety is something that happens between your ears, not something you hold in your hands." "I carry a small gun to compensate for my huge Blue press." .

07-19-2012, 09:38 PM	#5
JLA TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Heart Of Texas Contributor Posts: 17,317	Re: WCC 89 38 special Cases excellent advice worm. BTW, we missed you coming to the range week after 4th of july.. __________________ It takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 3 for proper trigger squeeze. The latest caliber or gear is no substitute for experience and skill. Rifles and cartridges don't make hits -- shooters do. Fact of life: After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!

07-21-2012, 10:48 PM	#6
Twicepop Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: NW Ohio Posts: 581	Re: WCC 89 38 special Cases I've used this brass for several years. The primer can be punched out with a regular sizing/decapping die with no problems, and yes the primers are crimped in place with this brass. The crimp can be removed by reaming or by swaging, just as you would any other military brass. I'm a little unclear about the need to change the shellholder, I use the same one as for for .38 Spl. and .357 Mag those who beat their guns into plowshares, will plow for those who didn't

07-23-2012, 10:01 PM	#9
JLA TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Heart Of Texas Contributor Posts: 17,317	Re: WCC 89 38 special Cases you probably already have one nevadal and you dont realize it.. Use the inside chamfer end of your casemouth chamfer tool. It cuts the crimp off the primer pockets nicely __________________ It takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 3 for proper trigger squeeze. The latest caliber or gear is no substitute for experience and skill. Rifles and cartridges don't make hits -- shooters do. Fact of life: After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!