playing computer games? UN and ICRC say your a war criminal - The Firearms Forum

jack404 · 12-08-2011, 04:41 AM

THE Red Cross is investigating whether 600 million gamers are violating the Hague and Geneva conventions when they kill and blow stuff up for fun.
Delegates at the 31st International Conference of the Red Cross (ICRC) and Red Crescent raised the concerns over the potential “International Humanitarian Law” violations – which can constitute war crimes - during a workshop in Geneva.

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/technology/ga...#ixzz1fwEecwqh

Good Grief .................

i dont play these games but heck ... whats next ??

maybe i should eh ..

cycloneman · 12-08-2011, 06:14 AM

the zombies have taken over.

i mean it. they are not human,

jack404 · 12-08-2011, 06:30 AM

but the Un is providing $55 Million to set up a team to investigate this and find some nasty guilty war criminals ( and ban "racist" games)

Juker · 12-08-2011, 07:00 AM

a. If the UN has $55 million to spare on this issue, then apparently world hunger has been conquered. Very glad to hear this news. Everyone has a full belly at last.

b. I have no immediate frame of reference as to how a gamer's propensity for violence might be enhanced by playing such games, as I am not a gamer. I have a life. I am busy. I have things to do. I am not 12.

c. Tie this thread to the TFF Weight Loss Challenge, and we might be on to something. Stop gaming, lose weight. I bet the UN would fund it.

carver · 12-08-2011, 07:01 AM

What a great organization the Red Cross is! Just make you want to give them your money doesn't it!

jack404 · 12-08-2011, 07:25 AM

if its your money sure

oh and thats where the $55 mill is gonna come from you can see that one coming a mile off

Marlin T · 12-08-2011, 01:36 PM

I love this game, but you don't really blow things up, well except your car.

whymememe · 12-08-2011, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jack404

THE Red Cross is investigating whether 600 million gamers are violating the Hague and Geneva conventions when they kill and blow stuff up for fun.
Delegates at the 31st International Conference of the Red Cross (ICRC) and Red Crescent raised the concerns over the potential “International Humanitarian Law” violations – which can constitute war crimes - during a workshop in Geneva.

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/technology/ga...#ixzz1fwEecwqh

Good Grief .................
My guess is, the only time its a crime is when you do it for fun, if you do it to save your ass, its self defense.
i dont play these games but heck ... whats next ??

maybe i should eh ..

HunterAlpha1 · 12-08-2011, 05:16 PM

if this is the case, then by now i've probably killed more people than Adolf Hitler and Stalin combined

in fact, if you count computer generated "people" as real people, then that is literally true! in Sid Meier's Civilization series you can use nukes to level entire cites, killing millions of people. i've wiped out countless civilizations and rendered thousands of planets extinct.

or maybe civbuilder games don't count, only games where you're in first or third person and your character wields a weapon and personally kills other people. that still puts my body count well up into the 6 digits, with games like Medal Of Honor, Call of Duty, Soldier of Fortune, HALO, Far Cry, Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, Elder Scrolls III & IV, Delta Force, Gun, Brothers in Arms: Road to Hill 30, America's Army, Star Wars games(too many to name!), and dozens of other games that i've played over the years!

maybe at my war crimes tribunal you fellas could come and put in a good word for me, eh?

jack404 · 12-08-2011, 05:31 PM

well i remember getting papers from the UNHRC in 1990 about how i was to respond to their questions over our actions in cambodia , complaints where laid by Australian activists on behalf of the Cambodian people . I went to the toilet on them wrapped them up and returned them to Canberra .

they next sent some pencil necked pen pusher to our HQ

i was back out of the country then and missed the mashup but again got the letters a few months later

i was also asked in them to name US advisors to Both FANK and FARK , i refused

they threatened to lock me up summarily as a war criminal

the Australian who put us in is now boss of the greens , the socialist political party who form the labour /green coalition government here now , Bob brown, look him up ( also a fag)

all the war criminal stuff stopped when the facts of cambiodia and the Khmer rouge came out

but for a while it was nasty ..

and even today i refuse to name the US folks involved , incase they are done ..

screw the Un and its agenda to protect the scum of this world ..

we did good , we served with honour and compassion for the cambodian people and today they are a free nation

the UN forgets that .. or just dont want to know ..

to all in the UN i say FARK you

FARK = Forces Armiee's Royale Khmer

FANK =Forces Armiees Nationiales Khmer

cpttango30 · 12-08-2011, 05:32 PM

Man I'm screwed. I love shooting stabbing and breaking necks on my way to ending a game. I'm not good check my YouTube channel you will see. I find it is fun when it is too cold to go to a range.

cycloneman · 12-08-2011, 06:10 PM

Is Pac Man included?

raven818 · 12-08-2011, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by cycloneman

Is Pac Man included?

That's cannibalism, for sure.

Bobitis · 12-08-2011, 06:56 PM

My son's a gamer and flys around the country volunteering as a PAX Enforcer.
I've never seen him kill a fly, or smack a spider (tho saltwater in squirtguns on slugs was encouraged by me in his youth).

He does tease the cat on occasion. Prolly a bit more than me even.

Update:

http://mynorthwest.com/123/590297/Re...es-prosecution

Not that I'd give the Red Cross the time of day.

Marlin T · 12-08-2011, 07:32 PM

jack404 · 12-08-2011, 11:21 PM

i play red alert 2 via the internet as a way to babysit a 12 year old nephew while his mother does regular overtime for 2 hours once a week

but thats it , ( generally play as Russia )

hogger129 · 12-08-2011, 11:33 PM

I like those Battlefield ones and Gran Turismo 5 is pretty awesome.

HunterAlpha1 · 12-09-2011, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jack404

i play red alert 2 via the internet as a way to babysit a 12 year old nephew while his mother does regular overtime for 2 hours once a week

but thats it , ( generally play as Russia )

i wish it would run on my computer without crashing

i gave away my old computer that it worked on.

Prizefighter · 12-10-2011, 02:27 AM

Gaming is one of my hobbies, and I think I've heard a similar story before. Organizations looking into games that depict military operations and soldiers, and whether the actions taking place in the game would be war crimes if they were real.

It makes no more sense to me than the various attempts to tie violent games to violent cirminals. Or, for an extra dose of relevance, violent criminals and gun usage/ownership. But somebody's always got an axe to grind, and somebody's always goofy enough to pony up the cash.

What's next? Scouring Tom Clancy books for war crimes?

Quote:

The Red Cross said if it finds the conventions have been violated, they may ask game developers to conform to international laws or encourage governments to create laws that regulate the gaming industry...

So, in a word, censorship.

News flash: it isn't real. A fact that "gamers" seem to understand better than these people.

BlackEagle · 12-10-2011, 05:24 PM

Oh dear. I play Lemmings and I've had to nuke a level on occasion. I also won a game of Risk. I'd better go hide!!

reynolds357 · 12-10-2011, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jack404

THE Red Cross is investigating whether 600 million gamers are violating the Hague and Geneva conventions when they kill and blow stuff up for fun.
Delegates at the 31st International Conference of the Red Cross (ICRC) and Red Crescent raised the concerns over the potential “International Humanitarian Law” violations – which can constitute war crimes - during a workshop in Geneva.

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/technology/ga...#ixzz1fwEecwqh

Good Grief .................

i dont play these games but heck ... whats next ??

maybe i should eh ..

The International Red Cross announced a few days ago that this story is a hoax and 100% false. I heard their statement on the radio. They told the source of it, but I can not remember the name of the paper that started the false rumor.

jack404 · 12-10-2011, 09:41 PM

funny i heard that too and grabbed this

http://www.rcrcconference.org/docs_u...letin_3_EN.pdf

they did the hoax thing when the gaming industry announced a multi million dollar effort to show the red cross and red crescents actions in many area's including looking away while some groups involve themselves in the trafficing of minors in some area's of Africa as a fund raiser for their programs ( vaccines and education ) which they are charged to stop , not turn a blind eye

but their own documentation shows its legit and that its not a hoax, but like any good socialist organisation they LIE

12-08-2011, 04:41 AM	#1
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	playing computer games? UN and ICRC say your a war criminal THE Red Cross is investigating whether 600 million gamers are violating the Hague and Geneva conventions when they kill and blow stuff up for fun. Delegates at the 31st International Conference of the Red Cross (ICRC) and Red Crescent raised the concerns over the potential “International Humanitarian Law” violations – which can constitute war crimes - during a workshop in Geneva. Read more: http://www.news.com.au/technology/ga...#ixzz1fwEecwqh Good Grief ................. i dont play these games but heck ... whats next ?? maybe i should eh .. -->

12-08-2011, 06:14 AM	#2
cycloneman Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 7,404	Re: playing computer games? UN and ICRC say your a war criminal the zombies have taken over. i mean it. they are not human, __________________ Who are you going to serve today?

12-08-2011, 06:30 AM	#3
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: playing computer games? UN and ICRC say your a war criminal but the Un is providing $55 Million to set up a team to investigate this and find some nasty guilty war criminals ( and ban "racist" games)

12-08-2011, 07:00 AM	#4
Juker Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Land of Lincoln Contributor Posts: 2,872	Re: playing computer games? UN and ICRC say your a war criminal a. If the UN has $55 million to spare on this issue, then apparently world hunger has been conquered. Very glad to hear this news. Everyone has a full belly at last. b. I have no immediate frame of reference as to how a gamer's propensity for violence might be enhanced by playing such games, as I am not a gamer. I have a life. I am busy. I have things to do. I am not 12. c. Tie this thread to the TFF Weight Loss Challenge, and we might be on to something. Stop gaming, lose weight. I bet the UN would fund it. __________________ SHOOT FIRST. SHOOT SECOND. MOST IMPORTANTLY, BE THE MAN WHO'S SHOOTING LAST.

12-08-2011, 07:01 AM	#5
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,271	Re: playing computer games? UN and ICRC say your a war criminal What a great organization the Red Cross is! Just make you want to give them your money doesn't it! __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.

12-08-2011, 07:25 AM	#6
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: playing computer games? UN and ICRC say your a war criminal if its your money sure oh and thats where the $55 mill is gonna come from you can see that one coming a mile off

12-08-2011, 01:36 PM	#7
Marlin T Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New Mexico Posts: 7,857	Re: playing computer games? UN and ICRC say your a war criminal I love this game, but you don't really blow things up, well except your car. __________________ "But the simple truth--born of experience--is that tyranny thrives best where government need not fear the wrath of an armed people." Judge Alex Kozinski - United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government. - Thomas Paine Did you read todays GOOD shooting? >>>KEEPANDBEARARMS.COM <<<

12-08-2011, 05:16 PM	#9
HunterAlpha1 Former Guest Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Yorktown, VA Posts: 1,049	Re: playing computer games? UN and ICRC say your a war criminal if this is the case, then by now i've probably killed more people than Adolf Hitler and Stalin combined in fact, if you count computer generated "people" as real people, then that is literally true! in Sid Meier's Civilization series you can use nukes to level entire cites, killing millions of people. i've wiped out countless civilizations and rendered thousands of planets extinct. or maybe civbuilder games don't count, only games where you're in first or third person and your character wields a weapon and personally kills other people. that still puts my body count well up into the 6 digits, with games like Medal Of Honor, Call of Duty, Soldier of Fortune, HALO, Far Cry, Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, Elder Scrolls III & IV, Delta Force, Gun, Brothers in Arms: Road to Hill 30, America's Army, Star Wars games(too many to name!), and dozens of other games that i've played over the years! maybe at my war crimes tribunal you fellas could come and put in a good word for me, eh?

12-08-2011, 05:31 PM	#10
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: playing computer games? UN and ICRC say your a war criminal well i remember getting papers from the UNHRC in 1990 about how i was to respond to their questions over our actions in cambodia , complaints where laid by Australian activists on behalf of the Cambodian people . I went to the toilet on them wrapped them up and returned them to Canberra . they next sent some pencil necked pen pusher to our HQ i was back out of the country then and missed the mashup but again got the letters a few months later i was also asked in them to name US advisors to Both FANK and FARK , i refused they threatened to lock me up summarily as a war criminal the Australian who put us in is now boss of the greens , the socialist political party who form the labour /green coalition government here now , Bob brown, look him up ( also a fag) all the war criminal stuff stopped when the facts of cambiodia and the Khmer rouge came out but for a while it was nasty .. and even today i refuse to name the US folks involved , incase they are done .. screw the Un and its agenda to protect the scum of this world .. we did good , we served with honour and compassion for the cambodian people and today they are a free nation the UN forgets that .. or just dont want to know .. to all in the UN i say FARK you FARK = Forces Armiee's Royale Khmer FANK =Forces Armiees Nationiales Khmer

12-08-2011, 05:32 PM	#11
cpttango30 Former Guest Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Stafford, VA Contributor Posts: 3,071	Re: playing computer games? UN and ICRC say your a war criminal Man I'm screwed. I love shooting stabbing and breaking necks on my way to ending a game. I'm not good check my YouTube channel you will see. I find it is fun when it is too cold to go to a range.

12-08-2011, 06:10 PM	#12
cycloneman Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 7,404	Re: playing computer games? UN and ICRC say your a war criminal Is Pac Man included? __________________ Who are you going to serve today?

12-08-2011, 06:56 PM	#14
Bobitis Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 6,612	Re: playing computer games? UN and ICRC say your a war criminal My son's a gamer and flys around the country volunteering as a PAX Enforcer. I've never seen him kill a fly, or smack a spider (tho saltwater in squirtguns on slugs was encouraged by me in his youth). He does tease the cat on occasion. Prolly a bit more than me even. Update: http://mynorthwest.com/123/590297/Re...es-prosecution Not that I'd give the Red Cross the time of day. __________________ ^.^ A point in every direction is the same as having no point at all Last edited by Bobitis; 12-08-2011 at 06:58 PM..

12-08-2011, 07:32 PM	#15
Marlin T Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New Mexico Posts: 7,857	Re: playing computer games? UN and ICRC say your a war criminal __________________ "But the simple truth--born of experience--is that tyranny thrives best where government need not fear the wrath of an armed people." Judge Alex Kozinski - United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government. - Thomas Paine Did you read todays GOOD shooting? >>>KEEPANDBEARARMS.COM <<<

12-08-2011, 11:21 PM	#16
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: playing computer games? UN and ICRC say your a war criminal i play red alert 2 via the internet as a way to babysit a 12 year old nephew while his mother does regular overtime for 2 hours once a week but thats it , ( generally play as Russia )

12-08-2011, 11:33 PM	#17
hogger129 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4,064	Re: playing computer games? UN and ICRC say your a war criminal I like those Battlefield ones and Gran Turismo 5 is pretty awesome. __________________ Samuel Adams once said, "among the natural rights of the colonists are these: first, a right to life, secondly to liberty, thirdly to property; together with the right to defend them in the best manner they can."

12-10-2011, 05:24 PM	#20
BlackEagle Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: UK Posts: 3,170	Re: playing computer games? UN and ICRC say your a war criminal Oh dear. I play Lemmings and I've had to nuke a level on occasion. I also won a game of Risk. I'd better go hide!!

12-10-2011, 09:41 PM	#22
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: playing computer games? UN and ICRC say your a war criminal funny i heard that too and grabbed this http://www.rcrcconference.org/docs_u...letin_3_EN.pdf they did the hoax thing when the gaming industry announced a multi million dollar effort to show the red cross and red crescents actions in many area's including looking away while some groups involve themselves in the trafficing of minors in some area's of Africa as a fund raiser for their programs ( vaccines and education ) which they are charged to stop , not turn a blind eye but their own documentation shows its legit and that its not a hoax, but like any good socialist organisation they LIE Attached Images Last edited by jack404; 12-10-2011 at 09:45 PM..