if not obama then who - The Firearms Forum

jack404 · 11-07-2011, 03:55 PM

seems the dem's and socialists dont want obama to run in the next election

maybe its a victim play ..

but if not who they gonna put in ?? i really cant see any stand outs with the backing obozo has but even the yurmahn group want obozo gone ( Oxford based socialist society and think tank )

45Auto · 11-07-2011, 05:09 PM

Well Jack;

it turns out that liberals think that Obama has been listening way too much to several of the same folks who advised the likes of G.W. Bush and Bill Clinton. In other words, regarding many important financial issued, Obama is way too conservative (pro-status quo). Liberals wonder if he is strong enough to stand up to K-Street, Wall Street, Corporate Media, etc, etc.

On the other hand, most liberals know that if the GOP was in charge of everything, it would be even worse for working class and middle class Americans. Thus, to Democrats and Liberals, President Obama continues to be the best choice, from a pro-middle class/working class point of view.

Ok, so what if President Obama did not run for a 2nd term? I think Hillary Clinton would be the top choice for most Democrats. Many Democrats consider her to have the iron spine needed to stend up to K Street, Wall Street, and the corporate owned media. Of course, that's a lot of spine to ask for when all of the political campaigns of Democrats and Republicans are paid for by the same group of super contributors.

Best regards,
Greg

rcairflr · 11-07-2011, 05:12 PM

I honestly don't think there is any chance that the Dems will run anyone but Obama.

jack404 · 11-07-2011, 05:37 PM

yeah i'm smelling a "victim play" too , get the loyal obamaites back on side with pity and fear of stopping "the progress they have made"

Bobitis · 11-07-2011, 05:52 PM

Progress and Obie cannot be used in the same sentence.

Hillary scares me. Should could give him a run, but if she lost, it would be a career ender.

jedwil · 11-07-2011, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by rcairflr

I honestly don't think there is any chance that the Dems will run anyone but Obama.

Agreed. He's not done all the extreme left has wanted but I'm sure his agents are assuring all those Marxists that he will make good if reclected.

jack404 · 11-07-2011, 06:23 PM

Thanks folks , this is what i'm thinking too , and this gives a great opening for some counter op's ,

split the loonie left time ..

oh what wicked web's we weave , when first we set out to deceive

seen what a lighter does to a spiders web ?

tcox4freedom · 11-07-2011, 07:09 PM

I've been saying for years that Hillary will be the 2012 dem nominee. Look for Obama to announce he's stepping down after this term early next year. (Jan-Feb)

Songman · 11-07-2011, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 45Auto

Well Jack;

it turns out that liberals think that Obama has been listening way too much to several of the same folks who advised the likes of G.W. Bush and Bill Clinton. In other words, regarding many important financial issued, Obama is way too conservative (pro-status quo). Liberals wonder if he is strong enough to stand up to K-Street, Wall Street, Corporate Media, etc, etc.

On the other hand, most liberals know that if the GOP was in charge of everything, it would be even worse for working class and middle class Americans. Thus, to Democrats and Liberals, President Obama continues to be the best choice, from a pro-middle class/working class point of view.

Ok, so what if President Obama did not run for a 2nd term? I think Hillary Clinton would be the top choice for most Democrats. Many Democrats consider her to have the iron spine needed to stend up to K Street, Wall Street, and the corporate owned media. Of course, that's a lot of spine to ask for when all of the political campaigns of Democrats and Republicans are paid for by the same group of super contributors.

Best regards,
Greg

Huh? Too many things wrong with this to even go in to just before my dinner...

And I don't think Hillary will run. She says she is out for sure if Obama is reelected.

Bobitis · 11-07-2011, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Songman

Huh? Too many things wrong with this to even go in to just before my dinner...

And I don't think Hillary will run. She says she is out for sure if Obama is reelected.

So she has nothing to lose. Hmmm...

gad1111 · 11-07-2011, 09:01 PM

No way obama doesn't run, with his colossal ego he probably thinks he's already been reelected

Songman · 11-07-2011, 10:21 PM

Bobitis... The only thing she has to lose is her Secretary of State job. Since it is an appointed position, she can't keep it while running for President. Of course, she says she will quit anyway if Obama is elected again so no big loss. She has consistently said that she no longer has any designs on the White House. But in a way that is kinda scary. What 'bigger' job is she after now? Something in the One World Govt?

Juker · 11-08-2011, 06:31 AM

President of the International Monetary Fund.

I was actually quite surprised she sold her endorsement in 2008 for the Sec of State slot. I was certain she would hold out for a Supreme Court job.

jack404 · 11-08-2011, 06:48 AM

know how sweet a deal boss of the IMF is ? travel EVERYwhere ( 3rd world holes often but great places , holiday, take the family , all VIP class..

kick backs, paid pension fund, cars , offices staff , power ...

or so "those in the know" think ..

Juker · 11-08-2011, 06:57 AM

I also hear she's working an angle to establish her royal bloodline, so she can be the next Queen of England.

11-07-2011, 03:55 PM	#1
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	if not obama then who seems the dem's and socialists dont want obama to run in the next election maybe its a victim play .. but if not who they gonna put in ?? i really cant see any stand outs with the backing obozo has but even the yurmahn group want obozo gone ( Oxford based socialist society and think tank ) -->

11-07-2011, 05:09 PM	#2
45Auto Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,121	Re: if not obama then who Well Jack; it turns out that liberals think that Obama has been listening way too much to several of the same folks who advised the likes of G.W. Bush and Bill Clinton. In other words, regarding many important financial issued, Obama is way too conservative (pro-status quo). Liberals wonder if he is strong enough to stand up to K-Street, Wall Street, Corporate Media, etc, etc. On the other hand, most liberals know that if the GOP was in charge of everything, it would be even worse for working class and middle class Americans. Thus, to Democrats and Liberals, President Obama continues to be the best choice, from a pro-middle class/working class point of view. Ok, so what if President Obama did not run for a 2nd term? I think Hillary Clinton would be the top choice for most Democrats. Many Democrats consider her to have the iron spine needed to stend up to K Street, Wall Street, and the corporate owned media. Of course, that's a lot of spine to ask for when all of the political campaigns of Democrats and Republicans are paid for by the same group of super contributors. Best regards, Greg

11-07-2011, 05:12 PM	#3
rcairflr Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Wichita, Ks Posts: 1,318	Re: if not obama then who I honestly don't think there is any chance that the Dems will run anyone but Obama.

11-07-2011, 05:37 PM	#4
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: if not obama then who yeah i'm smelling a "victim play" too , get the loyal obamaites back on side with pity and fear of stopping "the progress they have made"

11-07-2011, 05:52 PM	#5
Bobitis Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 6,612	Re: if not obama then who Progress and Obie cannot be used in the same sentence. Hillary scares me. Should could give him a run, but if she lost, it would be a career ender. __________________ ^.^ A point in every direction is the same as having no point at all

11-07-2011, 06:23 PM	#7
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: if not obama then who Thanks folks , this is what i'm thinking too , and this gives a great opening for some counter op's , split the loonie left time .. oh what wicked web's we weave , when first we set out to deceive seen what a lighter does to a spiders web ? Last edited by jack404; 11-07-2011 at 06:27 PM..

11-07-2011, 07:09 PM	#8
tcox4freedom Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: South Carolina USA Posts: 944	Re: if not obama then who I've been saying for years that Hillary will be the 2012 dem nominee. Look for Obama to announce he's stepping down after this term early next year. (Jan-Feb)

11-07-2011, 09:01 PM	#11
gad1111 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Swanton, Ohio Posts: 272	Re: if not obama then who No way obama doesn't run, with his colossal ego he probably thinks he's already been reelected

11-07-2011, 10:21 PM	#12
Songman V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Houston, TX Contributor Posts: 272	Re: if not obama then who Bobitis... The only thing she has to lose is her Secretary of State job. Since it is an appointed position, she can't keep it while running for President. Of course, she says she will quit anyway if Obama is elected again so no big loss. She has consistently said that she no longer has any designs on the White House. But in a way that is kinda scary. What 'bigger' job is she after now? Something in the One World Govt?

11-08-2011, 06:31 AM	#13
Juker Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Land of Lincoln Contributor Posts: 2,872	Re: if not obama then who President of the International Monetary Fund. I was actually quite surprised she sold her endorsement in 2008 for the Sec of State slot. I was certain she would hold out for a Supreme Court job. __________________ SHOOT FIRST. SHOOT SECOND. MOST IMPORTANTLY, BE THE MAN WHO'S SHOOTING LAST.

11-08-2011, 06:48 AM	#14
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: if not obama then who know how sweet a deal boss of the IMF is ? travel EVERYwhere ( 3rd world holes often but great places , holiday, take the family , all VIP class.. kick backs, paid pension fund, cars , offices staff , power ... or so "those in the know" think ..

11-08-2011, 06:57 AM	#15
Juker Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Land of Lincoln Contributor Posts: 2,872	Re: if not obama then who I also hear she's working an angle to establish her royal bloodline, so she can be the next Queen of England. __________________ SHOOT FIRST. SHOOT SECOND. MOST IMPORTANTLY, BE THE MAN WHO'S SHOOTING LAST.