Will U.S. Troops Fire On American Citizens?

[steve4102]

Who would believe that in the year 2012 one would have to ask if the U.S. Military would fire on American Citizen’s?

http://conservativebyte.com/2012/04/...ican-citizens/

[BillM]

Well heck--it's not like they haven't done it in the past, just do a quick
search for "bonus Army".

Here is a list. Last time I checked places like Idaho, Minnesota and Colorado
were in the U.S.. Not so sure about Washington D.C any more, but it's on the list too.




http://academic.evergreen.edu/g/gros...rventions.html

[carver]

Who would believe that in the year 2012 one would have to ask if the U.S. Military would fire on American Citizen’s?

The question of troop involvement in a possible upcoming Martial Law scenario that is being predicted is no imaginary possibility – nor is it a ‘conspiracy theory’.

Other tough questions are being discussed such as, “Will the U.S. government confiscate Gold and Silver in an economic collapse?” and “Will there be a round-up of American Citizens to be put into FEMA Camps?”

Many believe that the United Nations will be given authority to step in to keep the peace in any civil unrest or economic collapse. This is a strong possibility.

[gvw3]

I don't buy into this. We don't need a civil war. I don't think our armies will fire on citizens.
Without that the government will not have the tools to get away with this.

You never know so it may be good to get ready.

[Snakedriver]

Some will, but most won't. If ever you were looking for an unlawful order to disobey, that would be the one. Troops have no obligation to follow unlawful orders, even if they are issued by the CIC.

[hunter29180]

Comeon Fellas....Lets face the music..if YOU were in the military, would you shoot? I can answer that for you..If they are shooting at me with intent to take my life??? you had better BET I would respond in the same. as far as following orders?? well in such a case would you expect the order givers to tell you the truth?? YA.."you guys go in there and capture those nasty "DRUG DEALERS""...(snicker..snicker..who cares those drug dealers never delt in drugs in their life ....they just "opposed" our rule...snicker..snicker)

[Guts3d]

But would seasoned American troops fire on armed citizens protecting themselves, their families, and their rightfully earned property? It is one thing to ask a soldier to kill unarmed civillians, I think (hope) that over 99% would balk at that. But if you told a squad to "Go onto the old Johnson place, and confiscate all his weapons and gold" they would be wary.

[Brass Tacks]

I think it's very likely a certain individuals of the armed forces would fire on a large portion of the general public.

[Zhurh]

Such a scenario would cause the political collapse of whatever administration is in power. Powers that be do things in more a subtle manner or it blows up in their face.

[Hammerslagger]

US troops have already fired on unarmed, US citizens in Kent, OH on 05/04/1970 @12:24 PM. Four persons were killed and 9 more were wounded.

[carver]

Originally Posted by Hammerslagger

US troops have already fired on unarmed, US citizens in Kent, OH on 05/04/1970 @12:24 PM. Four persons were killed and 9 more were wounded.

And that's not the only time it's happened!

[Snakedriver]

The U.S. Armed Forces number in the range of 1 million to 1.5 million troops.

The current population of the United States is in excess of 310 million people all spread out over 3.5 million square miles.

Current estimates of the numbers firearms in the hands of private individuals in the United States is as large as 450 million.

Those odds are way worse than Gen. Custer's at the Little Big Horn.

......................'aint that 2nd Amendment a bitch? Thank you Founding Fathers!!!!

[Brass Tacks]

what the difference between the Boy Scouts and the US military?






armor and air support

[RunningOnMT]

The reality is that the majority are likely to obey orders. The military tends to work that way. It's not that the sentiment of the military is in favor of firing on citizens but in a likely scenario, we wouldn't be just "citizens". We would be some sort of threat to national security.

Just imagine a standoff somewhere between armed citizens and a military unit. Even if most had no intention of shooting and were sympathetic to the citizens cause, most likely the majority of military members would follow orders to go where they were told. So now we have two groups of armed Americans facing off. I can just about guaranty that someone will get nervous and shoot or have an AD, then all hell would break loose. In the past troops have in fact fired on unarmed citizens, how much more likely would they be to open fire if the civilians were armed??? A lot.

P.S. Oh, and by the way, we may have more guns but the military has toys you wouldn't believe...AND, they know how to use them.

[carver]

M1 Abrams with it's M256 120mm Smoothbore gun up against a bunch of civilians armed with AR's, sniper rifles, pistols, and a few full auto guns. My money is on the Abrams!

[Old Grump]

Originally Posted by Hammerslagger

US troops have already fired on unarmed, US citizens in Kent, OH on 05/04/1970 @12:24 PM. Four persons were killed and 9 more were wounded.

Now tell the rest of the story. A bunch of young National Guardsmen surrounded by a group of spoiled commie bitches and their sissy men whores ignoring a curfew, had already broke into buildings and set fires, ignored curfew and now they were throwing sticks, bottles and rocks at a squad of National Guardsmen ordered by the governor at the Mayors and Deans request to bring order to the campus. Isn't it funny how every single one of those who were shot were just innocent bystanders walking by the area to get to their real destination.

If they would have had a few marksmen in the group it would have been 10 times that number dead and wounded. Only restraint by the youngsters with the guns kept the total down. Not the same thing as going into a neighborhood to disarm and pacify a group of lawful citizens. Look for the officers and politicians who would order our troops to do that to have a very bad day. Most troops, senior noncoms, and real officers who took their oath to obey lawful orders and to defend the constitution seriously would react negatively.

[ryan42]

Originally Posted by Snakedriver

The U.S. Armed Forces number in the range of 1 million to 1.5 million troops.

The current population of the United States is in excess of 310 million people all spread out over 3.5 million square miles.

Current estimates of the numbers firearms in the hands of private individuals in the United States is as large as 450 million.

Those odds are way worse than Gen. Custer's at the Little Big Horn.

......................'aint that 2nd Amendment a bitch? Thank you Founding Fathers!!!!

I like them odds,nobody will agree on this for sure.Im not going that far out on a limb.Potus might try something but you have to look at the big picture,congress and the senate who actually run the government aernt gonna roll over that easy.Thers some red blooded americans just like you and me that would fight back.Im not saying stuff cant happen but its just not that siimple.They would see the larges insurgency ever put together.

[ryan42]

Theres alot Id like to say but You never know whos reading and you have to be careful what we type and what we say.I know I sound paranoid,but I dont want to be on any radar.

[Gun Geezer]

There are a lot of things I thought I would never live to see in my nearly 70 years. Very little would surprise me. Being old has one great advantage. I likely won't live to see the U.S.A. turn into the kind of country our founding fathers and forefathers fought against.

[ryan42]

Originally Posted by Gun Geezer

There are a lot of things I thought I would never live to see in my nearly 70 years. Very little would surprise me. Being old has one great advantage. I likely won't live to see the U.S.A. turn into the kind of country our founding fathers and forefathers fought against.

I agree with the first part you have 70 years of wisdom to my 43.I just hope you live a long time.

[al45lc]

Originally Posted by ryan42

Theres alot Id like to say but You never know whos reading and you have to be careful what we type and what we say.I know I sound paranoid,but I dont want to be on any radar.

Ryan42 of Marion Indiana, you ARE on the radar. Partner, you gave them your address as soon as you signed up here.
"They" know your name, address, and SS# as sure as the sun rises tomorrow.

[ryan42]

[QUOTE=al45lc;906600]Ryan42 of Marion Indiana, you ARE on the radar. Partner, you gave them your address as soon as you signed up here.
"They" know your name, address, and SS# as sure as the sun rises tomorrow.[/QUote.

What I was meaning is theres just certain things I maybe thinking but doesnt mean I want to be on the record saying or typing it.Obviously they know who I am I made it easy I put it on my profile.

[Snakedriver]

Originally Posted by carver

M1 Abrams with it's M256 120mm Smoothbore gun up against a bunch of civilians armed with AR's, sniper rifles, pistols, and a few full auto guns. My money is on the Abrams!

If you're thinking that the only way to knock out a big tank is to meet it head-on with small arms, you're doing it wrong!

[ryan42]

Originally Posted by Snakedriver

If you're thinking that the only way to knock out a big tank is to meet it head-on with small arms, you're doing it wrong!

I dont think that is what carver is saying but ill let him answer ya.

[Snakedriver]

Originally Posted by ryan42

I dont think that is what carver is saying but ill let him answer ya.

I beg to differ with you, but that's exactly what he was saying.