What about Glock - The Firearms Forum

rik · 08-13-2003, 05:05 PM

I haven't seen much mention of Glock pistols in this forum. Why not?

rik

Shooter45 · 08-13-2003, 05:33 PM

Tupperware ????????

Glock makes a good duty weapon but if you like to hit exactly where you aim and shoot small groups , the 1911 is still the way to go. JMHO.

Some people may think different.

But I can tell you now, this thread will get some attention. Just like the Ford- Chevy debates.

08-13-2003, 05:57 PM

Glock?

KABOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Logansdad · 08-13-2003, 08:00 PM

Best sidearm ever made

08-13-2003, 09:47 PM

Logansdad, yur a hoot!

LOL

FN_Project90 · 08-13-2003, 10:27 PM

oh yeah OH YEAH!!!!
ALL GUNS SUCK EXCEPT ONES I OWN! so there

haha I have infallible guns made by Thor himself.

they only look like other guns, *nods and smiles*

Xracer · 08-14-2003, 08:25 AM

Well Rik, some people like Glocks, some don't.

I don't.....and I'll tell you why.....I've been shooting handguns for more than 50 years. I'm used to steel guns and don't trust plastic to hold a gun together if a cartridge bursts.

I've shot Glocks and don't care for the cheap plastic feel of them. I don't like the trigger. I don't care for the lack of a positive safety. Don't care for the accuracy (compared to a 1911). Don't like the sights. Don't like the idea that I can't (or shouldn't) shoot lead bullets thru 'em, since I cast & load my own.

Most of all, I don't care for the many well documented cases of Glock KaBooms.

For those that like them.....fine. As for me, I'll stick with a gun that feels good, shoots good, and I can trust.....the M1911.

tuckerd1 · 08-14-2003, 11:00 AM

Well said X!

FN_Project90 · 08-14-2003, 11:06 AM

well

hahahahaha
I just had to be a goober

Bullseye · 08-14-2003, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tuckerd1
Well said X!

My sentiments exactly!

Logansdad · 08-14-2003, 05:51 PM

a 1911A1 could never take the abuse that Glocks have been put through...no other single sidearm has ever had half a million rounds fired through it like Chuck Taylor's Glock 17...

inplanotx · 08-14-2003, 06:37 PM

Well, Logansdad, I was brought up on 1911's and a few years ago I bought a Glock. I have known 1911's that will match the 500,000 mark as you imply. I sold my 40 S&W Glock within 2 weeks of buying it. Why? Just one word...........................

SPROING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can't stand the feel or the rubbermaid parts. Give me steel anytime.

wsmc667 · 08-14-2003, 11:00 PM

yup, me too. only i'm a yungin. only pistols i shot as a kid were wheel guns. city folks had them autos like you saw in the movies. only recently got back into firearms and couldn't believe how many plastic pistols there are. they just feel wrong. found CZ and i really really like `em. all steel frame, slender, and super simple take down.

JohnK3 · 08-15-2003, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by wsmc667
yup, me too. only i'm a yungin. only pistols i shot as a kid were wheel guns. city folks had them autos like you saw in the movies. only recently got back into firearms and couldn't believe how many plastic pistols there are. they just feel wrong. found CZ and i really really like `em. all steel frame, slender, and super simple take down.

Sho'nuff, wsmc667. My little CZ is a fun little gun to shoot and very reliable. I *like* the all-steel frame and slide. I also understand they dry-fire each weapon in an oil-bath for several thousand cycles before packaging them up to leave the factory. Explains why it seems to work so smoothly right out of the box.

bigboom338 · 08-15-2003, 04:05 PM

A few years ago I was looking at a Glock at a gun shop, the salesman was an xcop and he was telling me how indestuctible they are but I could not get over the fact that they have no positive saftey.He said" but they do this little lever on the trigger" here, I still did not like the idea cause I could just see an accident happening. three weeks later I read a story about a cop in Nashville who came home,took off his belt and laid it on the table while he was talking to his wife and removing his body armor his 3 year old kid picked up this glock and pulled the trigger killing his father. That was when I made my final decision about Glocks.
I know that all of the gun saftey rules were not followed here but had the gun had a real saftey this accident most likley would not of happened.
Just my .02 worth.
1911's rule.

FN_Project90 · 08-15-2003, 06:45 PM

well the one thing is that the firing pin is disengaged unless you start pulling the trigger its not going off.
I still like my glock for carry, and my kimber, and my revolver. Now I just need one for every day of the week and I will be set!
hehe

OHHH! I just got a German Walther PPK/S used for $250, great condition, needs some reblue but it works. I will get some pictures up. Oh and I got a Turkish 8mm mauser with all the goodies for $90. I am still cleaning the damn barrel, dirty as hell. Anyone got any tips?
Well funny thing my gunsmith just called, he got the improved trigger job (of his own design) for my glock done and the night sights on, I felt a glock trigger he did and it was nice. Got me some Trijicon sights for $50

. I asked him about the mauser, he said get some diesel fuel plug the barrel and let it sit for a week, hmmmm I am leary about this.

bigboom338 · 08-16-2003, 07:17 AM

"unless you start pulling the trigger its not going off"

Which is my point exactly, that is all it takes to make them go BOOM.

Xracer · 08-16-2003, 07:47 AM

A "safety on the trigger" sort of defeats the entire purpose of a safety, don't you think?

I've always thought that the purpose of a positive safety was to prevent discharge if the trigger were accidently pulled.

FN_Project90 · 08-16-2003, 12:45 PM

*shrugs* I know its not much but a lot of cops around the world and military use them, they are doin ok. *shrug*
hey I am not saying I don't like 1911s I love em.
just that glocks are not all that bad.

08-16-2003, 01:22 PM

Don't forget they feel like holding a brick and point like a 2x4

Logansdad · 08-16-2003, 02:10 PM

the best safety is supposed to be between your ears...

VIPERGTSR01 · 08-17-2003, 05:56 AM

yeah but we are all human (i think

), we all make mistakes from time to time

Logansdad · 08-17-2003, 06:07 AM

Y'all don't see me going to the 1911A1 page and telling y'all what I really think of it.

08-17-2003, 07:23 AM

My interest in Glock was fowled long ago, when a local PD switched from S&W 66's to Glock.

It wasn't long that the PD's armorer found rust inside the Glock.

Needless to say they changed to Sigs

pickenup · 08-17-2003, 11:09 AM

Finally tried a Glock a few weeks ago. An LEO friend of mine was getting away from Glocks and selling his back up Model 30. (and his Model 21 by the way) Took it to the range and tried it out. Found out that I REALLY hate the thingy in the trigger. Tip of my finger got sore in very short order. No natural point of aim, had to adjust EVERY shot. If it is not going to shoot where I point it, I do not want it. Sold it right away. It was not because of it being plastic, H&K’s were the first to use polymer in a pistol over 25 years ago, still do not hear of many knocking the USP’s.

08-13-2003, 05:05 PM	#1
rik Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 31	What about Glock I haven't seen much mention of Glock pistols in this forum. Why not? rik -->

08-13-2003, 08:00 PM	#4
Logansdad V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Alabama's Gulf Coast Posts: 222	Best sidearm ever made __________________ "Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." Jesus, Luke 22:36 "I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." Galileo It's better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it..

08-13-2003, 10:27 PM	#6
FN_Project90 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA, USA Posts: 803	oh yeah OH YEAH!!!! ALL GUNS SUCK EXCEPT ONES I OWN! so there haha I have infallible guns made by Thor himself. they only look like other guns, nods and smiles __________________ Things n' Stuff Last edited by FN_Project90; 08-13-2003 at 10:27 PM..

08-14-2003, 11:06 AM	#9
FN_Project90 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA, USA Posts: 803	well hahahahaha I just had to be a goober __________________ Things n' Stuff

08-14-2003, 05:51 PM	#11
Logansdad V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Alabama's Gulf Coast Posts: 222	a 1911A1 could never take the abuse that Glocks have been put through...no other single sidearm has ever had half a million rounds fired through it like Chuck Taylor's Glock 17... __________________ "Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." Jesus, Luke 22:36 "I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." Galileo It's better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it..

08-13-2003, 05:33 PM	#2
Shooter45 Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Contributor Posts: 8,747	Tupperware ???????? Glock makes a good duty weapon but if you like to hit exactly where you aim and shoot small groups , the 1911 is still the way to go. JMHO. Some people may think different. But I can tell you now, this thread will get some attention. Just like the Ford- Chevy debates.

08-13-2003, 05:57 PM	#3
Zigzag2 Adnanced Senior Member Posts: n/a	Glock? KABOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

08-13-2003, 09:47 PM	#5
Zigzag2 Adnanced Senior Member Posts: n/a	Logansdad, yur a hoot! LOL

08-14-2003, 08:25 AM	#7
Xracer TFF Admin Staff Mediator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Minn-eeee-sota, ya, sure, you bet! Posts: 9,144	Well Rik, some people like Glocks, some don't. I don't.....and I'll tell you why.....I've been shooting handguns for more than 50 years. I'm used to steel guns and don't trust plastic to hold a gun together if a cartridge bursts. I've shot Glocks and don't care for the cheap plastic feel of them. I don't like the trigger. I don't care for the lack of a positive safety. Don't care for the accuracy (compared to a 1911). Don't like the sights. Don't like the idea that I can't (or shouldn't) shoot lead bullets thru 'em, since I cast & load my own. Most of all, I don't care for the many well documented cases of Glock KaBooms. For those that like them.....fine. As for me, I'll stick with a gun that feels good, shoots good, and I can trust.....the M1911.

08-14-2003, 11:00 AM	#8
tuckerd1 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Paint Rock Valley, Alabama Posts: 3,147	Well said X!

08-14-2003, 06:37 PM	#12
inplanotx Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 8,897	Well, Logansdad, I was brought up on 1911's and a few years ago I bought a Glock. I have known 1911's that will match the 500,000 mark as you imply. I sold my 40 S&W Glock within 2 weeks of buying it. Why? Just one word........................... SPROING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can't stand the feel or the rubbermaid parts. Give me steel anytime. __________________

08-14-2003, 11:00 PM	#13
wsmc667 Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: sandy eggo Posts: 45	yup, me too. only i'm a yungin. only pistols i shot as a kid were wheel guns. city folks had them autos like you saw in the movies. only recently got back into firearms and couldn't believe how many plastic pistols there are. they just feel wrong. found CZ and i really really like `em. all steel frame, slender, and super simple take down.

08-15-2003, 04:05 PM	#15
bigboom338 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Dakota Posts: 399	A few years ago I was looking at a Glock at a gun shop, the salesman was an xcop and he was telling me how indestuctible they are but I could not get over the fact that they have no positive saftey.He said" but they do this little lever on the trigger" here, I still did not like the idea cause I could just see an accident happening. three weeks later I read a story about a cop in Nashville who came home,took off his belt and laid it on the table while he was talking to his wife and removing his body armor his 3 year old kid picked up this glock and pulled the trigger killing his father. That was when I made my final decision about Glocks. I know that all of the gun saftey rules were not followed here but had the gun had a real saftey this accident most likley would not of happened. Just my .02 worth. 1911's rule. __________________ "Aim Small Miss Small" Last edited by bigboom338; 08-16-2003 at 07:12 AM..

08-15-2003, 06:45 PM	#16
FN_Project90 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA, USA Posts: 803	well the one thing is that the firing pin is disengaged unless you start pulling the trigger its not going off. I still like my glock for carry, and my kimber, and my revolver. Now I just need one for every day of the week and I will be set! hehe OHHH! I just got a German Walther PPK/S used for $250, great condition, needs some reblue but it works. I will get some pictures up. Oh and I got a Turkish 8mm mauser with all the goodies for $90. I am still cleaning the damn barrel, dirty as hell. Anyone got any tips? Well funny thing my gunsmith just called, he got the improved trigger job (of his own design) for my glock done and the night sights on, I felt a glock trigger he did and it was nice. Got me some Trijicon sights for $50 . I asked him about the mauser, he said get some diesel fuel plug the barrel and let it sit for a week, hmmmm I am leary about this. __________________ Things n' Stuff

08-16-2003, 07:17 AM	#17
bigboom338 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Dakota Posts: 399	"unless you start pulling the trigger its not going off" Which is my point exactly, that is all it takes to make them go BOOM. __________________ "Aim Small Miss Small"

08-16-2003, 07:47 AM	#18
Xracer TFF Admin Staff Mediator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Minn-eeee-sota, ya, sure, you bet! Posts: 9,144	A "safety on the trigger" sort of defeats the entire purpose of a safety, don't you think? I've always thought that the purpose of a positive safety was to prevent discharge if the trigger were accidently pulled.

08-16-2003, 12:45 PM	#19
FN_Project90 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA, USA Posts: 803	shrugs I know its not much but a lot of cops around the world and military use them, they are doin ok. shrug hey I am not saying I don't like 1911s I love em. just that glocks are not all that bad. __________________ Things n' Stuff

08-16-2003, 01:22 PM	#20
warpig Adnanced Senior Member Posts: n/a	Don't forget they feel like holding a brick and point like a 2x4

08-16-2003, 02:10 PM	#21
Logansdad V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Alabama's Gulf Coast Posts: 222	the best safety is supposed to be between your ears... __________________ "Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." Jesus, Luke 22:36 "I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." Galileo It's better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it..

08-17-2003, 05:56 AM	#22
VIPERGTSR01 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Australia Posts: 65	yeah but we are all human (i think), we all make mistakes from time to time

08-17-2003, 06:07 AM	#23
Logansdad V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Alabama's Gulf Coast Posts: 222	Y'all don't see me going to the 1911A1 page and telling y'all what I really think of it. __________________ "Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." Jesus, Luke 22:36 "I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." Galileo It's better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it..

08-17-2003, 07:23 AM	#24
Zigzag2 Adnanced Senior Member Posts: n/a	My interest in Glock was fowled long ago, when a local PD switched from S&W 66's to Glock. It wasn't long that the PD's armorer found rust inside the Glock. Needless to say they changed to Sigs

08-17-2003, 11:09 AM	#25
pickenup Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains Posts: 6,837	Finally tried a Glock a few weeks ago. An LEO friend of mine was getting away from Glocks and selling his back up Model 30. (and his Model 21 by the way) Took it to the range and tried it out. Found out that I REALLY hate the thingy in the trigger. Tip of my finger got sore in very short order. No natural point of aim, had to adjust EVERY shot. If it is not going to shoot where I point it, I do not want it. Sold it right away. It was not because of it being plastic, H&K’s were the first to use polymer in a pistol over 25 years ago, still do not hear of many knocking the USP’s. __________________ The gene pool needs chlorine