Walmart Ammo - The Firearms Forum

Jamierat · 02-10-2012, 06:53 AM

I was in a cww class and the instructor was telling us that you should never buy your ammo from walmart. He said in particular the winchester white box ammo is the ammo that didn't meet winchesters standard and walmart told them to box it for them and they would carry it ( at a cheaper price of course )

Is any of this true or was he just trying to get everyone to buy from a local gun shop?

pinecone70 · 02-10-2012, 07:20 AM

I remember my instructors telling me they didn't allow white box ammo for qualification tests, we were to bring a different brand. There was a quality control issue with Winchester, I think, and they didn't trust it in a situation such as CCW class where there may be new shooters.

Zane71464 · 02-10-2012, 07:24 AM

...must be the "USA" win. brand you all are talking about/?

Hi Pinecone, havent seen you around as of late...good to see you back!

pinecone70 · 02-10-2012, 07:29 AM

Hi, it's good to see you too, Zane.

Snakedriver · 02-10-2012, 07:48 AM

I buy Walmart ammo all the time, including WWB stuff and have never had any problem with any of it. The prices for the same thing in my local gun shops is crazy high. I see the same stuff in the gun shops that is available at the Walmart, so I'm pretty sure they buy their supplies of ammo at Walmart and then just mark it up a bunch.

If you want to really get good deals on ammo, buy it on-line and have it shipped directly to your door. Even with shipping (often can be found with free shipping), it's still cheaper. You may need to buy more than just one box of ammo on-line to make it worthwhile, but it's really the best way to go.

Juker · 02-10-2012, 08:01 AM

I've heard the Wal-Mart/Winchester WB story several times. Does anyone have any real paper trails on this, or is it an urban ammo myth?

I've shot plenty of it (.45 ACP, .38, 9mm) with no problemos. I just checked several ammo suppliers online and they all appear to carry Winchester White Box.

The only centerfire ammo I take issue with is Wolf, because it left the guts of my 1911 looking like the inside of an old car muffler. Bought 300 rounds of it last year at a gun show, and finally finished it off last week.

pinecone70 · 02-10-2012, 08:03 AM

I think the white box problem was a limited run of bad ammo. Personally, I have not had trouble with any Winchester rounds.

carver · 02-10-2012, 08:09 AM

If I buy ammo for plinking, it's the WWB at Wal Mart. I have never had an issue with it. This has go to be one of those urban internet myths.

cpttango30 · 02-10-2012, 08:09 AM

OK here are my questions.

1. Why would Wal-mart buy a known inferior product?

2. Why is wal-mart so evil?

3. Has anyone ever seen hard proof that this is happening?

I would think that the thousands of lawyers Walmart has on staff would urge them to not buy ammo that didn't pass QA/QC. That is opening wal-mart to a HUGE law suite.

If walmart is evil because of all the Chinese made products. I want you to look at the PC or MAC you are reading this post on. Find 1 thing that says MADE in the USA on it. That cell phone you complain about having, made in china, i bet you there are Chinese parts in your so called American made cars and trucks.

Things are made in china because they can meet the specs and do it for cheap. There is junk made in china just like there is junk made here in the USA. Has anyone ever shot a Lorcin pistol? I had one when I was young and stupid. I needed a centerfire pistol for the house and that was all I could afford. That gun was better as a paper weight than it ever was as a pistol. It would jam ever 3 round no matter what every time.

cycloneman · 02-10-2012, 08:17 AM

This has happened before with ammo in different boxes. Sometimes a stroy hits the wall and sticks thus getting spread around.

BTW the white box ammo is racist.

Juker · 02-10-2012, 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cycloneman

BTW the white box ammo is racist.

I demand yellow box, red box, and black box ammo!!!

Zane71464 · 02-10-2012, 08:30 AM

Ive bought the Win. USA ammo from walleyworld and at gun shops in .375 mag and 9mm and havent ever had any problems.

Zane71464 · 02-10-2012, 08:31 AM

..and .38 special

Dennis C · 02-10-2012, 09:34 AM

no problems here with their ammo.

H-D · 02-10-2012, 09:35 AM

My guns have all ran the wwb it runs as good as any other , kinda dirty but I have a cleaning kit

Albtraum · 02-10-2012, 09:44 AM

I could buy a 100 round box of CCI Mini Mags for $6.99 at Walmart or a few bucks more at Big 5, or drive all the way to Bass Bro Shop, or the "local" gun shop and pay over $10 per box, for the exact same product.

bufford · 02-10-2012, 10:01 AM

Same here as most of you, have run thousands of rounds, 22,45,9mm, all with no problems other then being sure to clean the guns afterwards, just common sense on that part with any ammo used I would think.

graehaven · 02-10-2012, 10:08 AM

Never had an issue with the WWB. Good ammo.

On the other hand, the yellow box UMC stuff is the crapiest, dirtiest ammo I've ever seen. I won't use it.

ampaterry · 02-10-2012, 10:08 AM

The winchester site lists their USA ammo as:

"Winchester USA brand ammunition provides great performance at a value price."

flyingtiger85 · 02-10-2012, 10:23 AM

I have 3 white winchester 100 round boxes of 9mm on hand from Wal-Mart.I've never had an issuue with it.I think it was $23.99 a box.They also carry Federal 100 rounds in 9mm for $19.99.A much better deal.

jedwil · 02-10-2012, 10:34 AM

No issues with any of the 9mm I've fired.

Twicepop · 02-10-2012, 11:03 AM

Sounds like more anti Wal Mart retoric. With all the trail lawyers out to make a buck from any kind of liability issue, Winchester or Wal Mart wouldn't put a product out for sale that didn't conform to acceptable industry standards, meaning safe and reliable. This is an area where you don't dare make any kind of mistake, because of the trial lawyers and the liberal scum bag politicians that want the industry shut down. Selling ammo that doesn't meet SAAMI standards, is extremely unlikly.

those who beat their gums intp plowshares, will plow for those who didn't

pinecone70 · 02-10-2012, 11:25 AM

A quick internet search revealed mostly issues with feeding in semi-autos.

Rhuga · 02-10-2012, 11:52 AM

If Walmart doesn't have it....I don't need it.

mogunner · 02-10-2012, 12:09 PM

Well, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I personally had two rounds out of one box of WWB that had no powder in them. I assume they had none, as I was shooting them out of a semi-auto handgun with a 3.5" barrel, and the bullets actually "fell" out of the end of the barrel and landed on the ground less than two feet in front of me. On some of the other forums I frequent there have been pictures posted of some with crushed or cracked brass and even some with the bullets in backwards. Since I can buy both Federal and Blazer brass cheaper in my area and based on my own problem I count myself as a quick learner and stay away from it. I will say that these problems seem to have popped up just after they announced that they were closing the Illinois plant and moving the operations to the one in Mississippi, so I'm sure that there were either existing problems there or perhaps some disgruntled employees.

02-10-2012, 06:53 AM	#1
Jamierat Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Valrico,Fl Contributor Posts: 40	Walmart Ammo I was in a cww class and the instructor was telling us that you should never buy your ammo from walmart. He said in particular the winchester white box ammo is the ammo that didn't meet winchesters standard and walmart told them to box it for them and they would carry it ( at a cheaper price of course ) Is any of this true or was he just trying to get everyone to buy from a local gun shop? -->

02-10-2012, 07:20 AM	#2
pinecone70 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Minnesota Gal! Posts: 4,730	Re: Walmart Ammo I remember my instructors telling me they didn't allow white box ammo for qualification tests, we were to bring a different brand. There was a quality control issue with Winchester, I think, and they didn't trust it in a situation such as CCW class where there may be new shooters. __________________ _____________________________________________ "Miss Scarlet, in the library...with a revolver...."

02-10-2012, 07:24 AM	#3
Zane71464 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Ohio NRA Member Contributor Posts: 5,362	Re: Walmart Ammo ...must be the "USA" win. brand you all are talking about/? Hi Pinecone, havent seen you around as of late...good to see you back! __________________ Two Words; "Simple Man", song by Charlie Daniels sums up my thoughts on a "few things"!

02-10-2012, 07:29 AM	#4
pinecone70 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Minnesota Gal! Posts: 4,730	Re: Walmart Ammo Hi, it's good to see you too, Zane. __________________ _____________________________________________ "Miss Scarlet, in the library...with a revolver...."

02-10-2012, 07:48 AM	#5
Snakedriver Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: SW. Florida Posts: 1,219	Re: Walmart Ammo I buy Walmart ammo all the time, including WWB stuff and have never had any problem with any of it. The prices for the same thing in my local gun shops is crazy high. I see the same stuff in the gun shops that is available at the Walmart, so I'm pretty sure they buy their supplies of ammo at Walmart and then just mark it up a bunch. If you want to really get good deals on ammo, buy it on-line and have it shipped directly to your door. Even with shipping (often can be found with free shipping), it's still cheaper. You may need to buy more than just one box of ammo on-line to make it worthwhile, but it's really the best way to go. __________________ Fear is a reaction..........Courage is a decision Last edited by Snakedriver; 02-10-2012 at 07:49 AM..

02-10-2012, 08:01 AM	#6
Juker Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Land of Lincoln Contributor Posts: 2,872	Re: Walmart Ammo I've heard the Wal-Mart/Winchester WB story several times. Does anyone have any real paper trails on this, or is it an urban ammo myth? I've shot plenty of it (.45 ACP, .38, 9mm) with no problemos. I just checked several ammo suppliers online and they all appear to carry Winchester White Box. The only centerfire ammo I take issue with is Wolf, because it left the guts of my 1911 looking like the inside of an old car muffler. Bought 300 rounds of it last year at a gun show, and finally finished it off last week. __________________ SHOOT FIRST. SHOOT SECOND. MOST IMPORTANTLY, BE THE MAN WHO'S SHOOTING LAST.

02-10-2012, 08:03 AM	#7
pinecone70 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Minnesota Gal! Posts: 4,730	Re: Walmart Ammo I think the white box problem was a limited run of bad ammo. Personally, I have not had trouble with any Winchester rounds. __________________ _____________________________________________ "Miss Scarlet, in the library...with a revolver...."

02-10-2012, 08:09 AM	#8
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,266	Re: Walmart Ammo If I buy ammo for plinking, it's the WWB at Wal Mart. I have never had an issue with it. This has go to be one of those urban internet myths. __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.

02-10-2012, 08:09 AM	#9
cpttango30 Former Guest Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Stafford, VA Contributor Posts: 3,071	Re: Walmart Ammo OK here are my questions. 1. Why would Wal-mart buy a known inferior product? 2. Why is wal-mart so evil? 3. Has anyone ever seen hard proof that this is happening? I would think that the thousands of lawyers Walmart has on staff would urge them to not buy ammo that didn't pass QA/QC. That is opening wal-mart to a HUGE law suite. If walmart is evil because of all the Chinese made products. I want you to look at the PC or MAC you are reading this post on. Find 1 thing that says MADE in the USA on it. That cell phone you complain about having, made in china, i bet you there are Chinese parts in your so called American made cars and trucks. Things are made in china because they can meet the specs and do it for cheap. There is junk made in china just like there is junk made here in the USA. Has anyone ever shot a Lorcin pistol? I had one when I was young and stupid. I needed a centerfire pistol for the house and that was all I could afford. That gun was better as a paper weight than it ever was as a pistol. It would jam ever 3 round no matter what every time. Last edited by cpttango30; 02-10-2012 at 08:11 AM..

02-10-2012, 08:17 AM	#10
cycloneman Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 7,402	Re: Walmart Ammo This has happened before with ammo in different boxes. Sometimes a stroy hits the wall and sticks thus getting spread around. BTW the white box ammo is racist. __________________ Who are you going to serve today?

02-10-2012, 08:30 AM	#12
Zane71464 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Ohio NRA Member Contributor Posts: 5,362	Re: Walmart Ammo Ive bought the Win. USA ammo from walleyworld and at gun shops in .375 mag and 9mm and havent ever had any problems. __________________ Two Words; "Simple Man", song by Charlie Daniels sums up my thoughts on a "few things"!

02-10-2012, 08:31 AM	#13
Zane71464 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Ohio NRA Member Contributor Posts: 5,362	Re: Walmart Ammo ..and .38 special __________________ Two Words; "Simple Man", song by Charlie Daniels sums up my thoughts on a "few things"!

02-10-2012, 09:34 AM	#14
Dennis C Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: South Dakota Posts: 789	Re: Walmart Ammo no problems here with their ammo. __________________ "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms. . . disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. . . Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." - Thomas Jefferson

02-10-2012, 09:35 AM	#15
H-D Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Mississippi Posts: 1,334	Re: Walmart Ammo My guns have all ran the wwb it runs as good as any other , kinda dirty but I have a cleaning kit __________________ And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. Revelation 19:11

02-10-2012, 09:44 AM	#16
Albtraum Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 635	Re: Walmart Ammo I could buy a 100 round box of CCI Mini Mags for $6.99 at Walmart or a few bucks more at Big 5, or drive all the way to Bass Bro Shop, or the "local" gun shop and pay over $10 per box, for the exact same product.

02-10-2012, 10:01 AM	#17
bufford Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 35	Re: Walmart Ammo Same here as most of you, have run thousands of rounds, 22,45,9mm, all with no problems other then being sure to clean the guns afterwards, just common sense on that part with any ammo used I would think.

02-10-2012, 10:08 AM	#18
graehaven Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 2,853	Re: Walmart Ammo Never had an issue with the WWB. Good ammo. On the other hand, the yellow box UMC stuff is the crapiest, dirtiest ammo I've ever seen. I won't use it. __________________ The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." - Thomas Jefferson RESISTANCE IS FEUDAL... PREPARE TO SERVE.

02-10-2012, 10:08 AM	#19
ampaterry TFF Admin Staff Chaplain Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: West Tennessee Contributor Posts: 6,283	Re: Walmart Ammo The winchester site lists their USA ammo as: "Winchester USA brand ammunition provides great performance at a value price." __________________ A woman who demands further gun control legislation is like a chicken who roots for Colonel Sanders. Larry Elder

02-10-2012, 10:23 AM	#20
flyingtiger85 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Nevada Posts: 744	Re: Walmart Ammo I have 3 white winchester 100 round boxes of 9mm on hand from Wal-Mart.I've never had an issuue with it.I think it was $23.99 a box.They also carry Federal 100 rounds in 9mm for $19.99.A much better deal.

02-10-2012, 10:34 AM	#21
jedwil Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Texas Hill Country Contributor Posts: 1,922	Re: Walmart Ammo No issues with any of the 9mm I've fired. __________________ "Today, we need a nation of Minutemen, citizens who are not only prepared to take arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as the basic purpose of their daily life and who are willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom." -- John F. Kennedy

02-10-2012, 11:03 AM	#22
Twicepop Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: NW Ohio Posts: 581	Re: Walmart Ammo Sounds like more anti Wal Mart retoric. With all the trail lawyers out to make a buck from any kind of liability issue, Winchester or Wal Mart wouldn't put a product out for sale that didn't conform to acceptable industry standards, meaning safe and reliable. This is an area where you don't dare make any kind of mistake, because of the trial lawyers and the liberal scum bag politicians that want the industry shut down. Selling ammo that doesn't meet SAAMI standards, is extremely unlikly. those who beat their gums intp plowshares, will plow for those who didn't

02-10-2012, 11:25 AM	#23
pinecone70 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Minnesota Gal! Posts: 4,730	Re: Walmart Ammo A quick internet search revealed mostly issues with feeding in semi-autos. __________________ _____________________________________________ "Miss Scarlet, in the library...with a revolver...."

02-10-2012, 11:52 AM	#24
Rhuga Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Henderson, Nevada Posts: 645	Re: Walmart Ammo If Walmart doesn't have it....I don't need it.

02-10-2012, 12:09 PM	#25
mogunner Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Eastern Missouri Posts: 1,027	Re: Walmart Ammo Well, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I personally had two rounds out of one box of WWB that had no powder in them. I assume they had none, as I was shooting them out of a semi-auto handgun with a 3.5" barrel, and the bullets actually "fell" out of the end of the barrel and landed on the ground less than two feet in front of me. On some of the other forums I frequent there have been pictures posted of some with crushed or cracked brass and even some with the bullets in backwards. Since I can buy both Federal and Blazer brass cheaper in my area and based on my own problem I count myself as a quick learner and stay away from it. I will say that these problems seem to have popped up just after they announced that they were closing the Illinois plant and moving the operations to the one in Mississippi, so I'm sure that there were either existing problems there or perhaps some disgruntled employees.