which walther did bond use? ppk?

[soundguy]

can't recall.. finish as well? blacking?

[denny 714]

I think is was a Walther PPK 7.65mm !!!.....



Denny G.

[lead]

Walther PPK in 7.65(32acp).
Now who remembers what he carried before he got the Walther?

[soundguy]

418? anemic 25acp?

[Alpo]

Yep, it was an anemic Beretta 25.

[Helix_FR]

And all this time I thought he carried the PP, not the PPK.

[soundguy]

Originally Posted by Alpo

Yep, it was an anemic Beretta 25.

somewhere in an old sock.. I *think* i have an old beretta in 25acp ( 6.??mm ) but i don't recall the model if it is a m418 ?? might have to post a pic as soon as the wife returns use of the camera...

[RJay]

From the books or the movie's? In fact he carried a PPK in .32 ACP , but since the British Intelligence service brought Manurhin's in real life, it would not have been a Walther but the French marked Manurhin. The Beretta would have been a Model 1919 made up unto the 1940's. He also kept a large callber .45 under the dash of his first car ( wrecked in the Moonraker book ), forgot what model car, but it was an old super charged English model. No background on what type of .45, I always assume it was a 1911. Now in some of the later non Ian Fleming movies they had nim outfited with all kinds of guns.

[soundguy]

looking JB on the intenet they say the 25acp beretta m418 ( not that the internet is a true sourse of info.. just relaiting what I searched just now.. )

I also believe bond was fond of an aston martin...

[RJay]

He was also given/ issued a modified ASP ( Cut down S&W 39, I believe ) in one book. In the Book Moonraker I believe his car was an old Bentley, no longer have the book so it's memory time. Yep,1933 Supercharged Bentley, battleship grey

[Alpo]

RJay, the 45 is referred to as a "long barreled" Colt 45, so I always figgered either a New Service or a SAA with the 7 1/2" barrel.

In one of 'em, after Fleming quit/died/whatever happened, he has a Super Blackhawk stashed in his car, for long range, so the SAA isn't TOO strange an idea.

[RJay]

Double entry

[RJay]

I do believe your right Alpo. Isn't it weird, trying to figure out what a fictional character had hidden under his dash board. I think I need to get out more Sound Guy is right on the Beretta 418 also, in the US the 418 was the Bantam. In the Book , From Russia With Love, he was killed, Ian Fleming was fired of the character. but money speaks very loudly and he had to be brought back from the dead.

[GLS_1956]

Originally Posted by lead

Walther PPK in 7.65(32acp).
Now who remembers what he carried before he got the Walther?

Beretta in 25acp

[Alpo]

Originally Posted by RJay

I do believe your right Alpo. Isn't it weird, trying to figure out what a fictional character had hidden under his dash board. I think I need to get out more Sound Guy is right on the Beretta 418 also, in the US the 418 was the Bantam. In the Book , From Russia With Love, he was killed, Ian Fleming was fired of the character. but money speaks very loudly and he had to be brought back from the dead.

Just following along in Sherlock Holmes' footsteps. He took a dive from Victoria Falls (I believe), and was killed, but the fans raised so much hell that Doyle brought him back.

[al45lc]

In 'Dr. No' he was ordered to give up the Berreta and take a PPK in 7.65 because it had a "delivery like a brick through a plate glass window".
Even at that young age I couldn't help saying Hah! to that one.
Still, an upgrade. Sorta.
That was in BOTH the book and the movie.

[Archie]

Ian Fleming served in the British Army and was considered competent shooting a handgun, but he really wasn't a firearms hobbiest. In short, he didn't know much about the subject of firearms.

So the Beretta Bond carried was never identified further than being a .25 and having a 'safety catch'. The gun he carried in the Bentley was correctly identified by Alpo as "... a long barreled .45 Colt..." which could have been a Model P, a New Service or possibly - I'm stretching - a Government Model. (It has a longer barrel than the Beretta 418.)

Geoffrey Boothroyd (not a Major in reality, by the way) put Fleming onto the PPK. Remember this was in 1952 or '53, the 7.65 mm was considered a 'suitable' caliber then. It was author John Gardner who issued the ASP to Bond - tip from another reader and actual gun user at the time.

Fun stuff.

Sound Guy. If my memory serves, one could get a PPK in either Blue or Blue. (The nearly black color of blue.) I don't recall nickel as being an option. Since it wasn't made in Britain, it probably wasn't painted like the Enfield revolvers.

[soundguy]

i need to di out that old beretta i have in 25acp and see what it is.. will need to pry the camera away from the wife to do so. though..

[Conman]

The gun that 007 made famous was the Walther PPK...............however,

in at least one film he is holding a Walther PP.

Hollywood can't be bothered with minor details!!

[soundguy]

i love seeing movies and all thru the show you see inconsistencies...

[Alpo]

Ever see the original Pelham 1,2,3? I haven't seen the remake, but in the original, Robert Shaw's gun changes. When he's just holding it, to threaten, it's a Star, but when he's actually shooting it, it is a Browning Hi Power. But hey, full size auto is a full size auto, right? Who'd notice something like that?

[Mosin_Nagant_Fan]

In later movies, he used the P99.

[SARGE7402]

Just remember in licensed renewed, he's at the indoor range with a Browning 1903 (in 9mm Long)

[WHSmithIV]

Ahh - good ole Bond.... Here is a list:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._Bond_firearms

[nmckenzie]

Originally Posted by Archie

Remember this was in 1952 or '53, the 7.65 mm was considered a 'suitable' caliber then.

Winston Churchill's wartime bodyguard, Walter H. Thompson, carried a 32acp Webley, which Churchill considered entirely unsuitable for guarding a personage such as himself, and insisted Thompson carry a .45acp Colt. As things transpired, I believe Thompson kept the Webley.