Women Against Gun Control - The Firearms Forum

WAGCEVP · 05-25-2003, 08:15 AM

Come check us out

www.wagc.com

The Second Amendment is THE equal rights Amendment !

Evilahole · 05-25-2003, 08:20 AM

Cool! Thanks for the link...I forwarded it to my wife.
Good to see another Georgian on...we might be able to get into the Texas Vs Washington turf war soon with a couple more of us.

WAGCEVP · 05-25-2003, 08:24 AM

yeah good to see another from Ga on here

are you aware that we kicked anti gun @$$ here in Ga this year?

BTW, I'm not just evp national, I'm also Georgia State Director

Evilahole · 05-25-2003, 08:26 AM

Good!
Maybe all those sarcastic phone calls and emails did some good after all.

Shizamus · 05-25-2003, 08:37 AM

HEY WAGCEVP..

How did you find out about
the Firearms forum ?

GUN CONTROL : JOB SAFETY FOR CRIMINALS !

Real talk radio, if you dare : www.gcnlive.com

www.prisonplanet.com

05-25-2003, 08:44 AM

Hello WAGCEVP, we are honored to have you with us.

I would have responded sooner, but I was busy forwarding your link

We look forward to a long and healty realtionship with you and yours!

SouthernMoss · 05-25-2003, 08:57 AM

Welcome aboard, WAGCEVP!

Jump right into the melee!

Evilahole · 05-25-2003, 09:08 AM

Great link WAGCEVP!
Almost makes me wish I was born a little...different.
(Anyone reading more into this that it deserves should know I'm cleaning my Sub 2000 right now.)

05-25-2003, 09:46 AM

Looks like it has good information.

But all that pink color totally turned me off from more than a casual glance.

Wish you gals well but it's too PC gender oriented for me.

WAGCEVP · 05-25-2003, 02:20 PM

and yes, I'll make sure a link gets put on WAGC site

=====================================
From: mhiacdhvaaebl
Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 02:20:44 -0400
To: info@wagc.com
Subject: Fire Arms Forum

I would like to invite you to check out
and join The Fire Arms Forum and join
in with people who also support the 2nd
Amendment.
Also can you put up a link on your website
to www.thefirearmsforum.com and we
will do likewise.

Thank You

WAGCEVP · 05-25-2003, 02:21 PM

Thank you zigzag!

WAGCEVP · 05-25-2003, 02:26 PM

TLynn the pink serves a purpose

Too PC? We're as hard core as anybody, don't let it fool you

WAGC works with any other group to get the job done. I'm a Gunowners of America Member myself. have been since 1989
We keep in comtact with SAS, Armed females, and the Liberty Belles.

WAGCEVP · 05-25-2003, 02:29 PM

oh and we had somebody comment on shooting only in self-defense..... for clarification that includes for the defense of others .....

WAGCEVP · 05-25-2003, 02:33 PM

Southern Moss, I did

As you can see, I'm not shy

Evilahole · 05-25-2003, 03:15 PM

It's good to see "factions" banding together for a common cause.
That may be the only way Big Brother will actually take notice of us.

WAGCEVP · 05-25-2003, 03:53 PM

the more voices , the louder we are. That's why WAGC was started back ins 1994...... to get female gunowners off their butts and into the fight. after all it's our safety and freedom too

We need to be united!

WAGCEVP · 05-25-2003, 04:21 PM

$200 for this brief came outa MY pocket ...........
============================================

Emerson vs. USA Amicus Brief

here's the brief filed in behalf of WAGC and other groups for
Emerson vs. USA.

P.S. You can see the other briefs filed for Emerson vs. USA on the SAF
website.

-----------------------------
Here it is:
http://www.saf.org/pub/rkba/Legal/EmersonWOMENbrief.htm

WAGCEVP · 05-25-2003, 04:25 PM

GOA event in 1997 -WAGC

I was there, that was quit an experience!

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http://www.gunowners.org/a062697.htm

www.gunowners.org
Jun 1997
GOA to hold Press Conference / GOF to host Seminar Luncheon
-- plus other odds and ends
by Gun Owners of America
8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102
Springfield, VA 22151
(703) 321-8585, fax: 321-8408
(Thursday, June 26, 1997) In cooperation with the office of Representative
Helen Chenoweth (R-ID), two events will be held on Capitol Hill the
afternoon of Monday, July 14, 1997. Both events are free; GOA members and
supporters are invited to attend.

First, Gun Owners Foundation will present a seminar/luncheon. Members of
Congress and their Firearms/Judiciary Staffs will receive invitations.

Are women placed at risk by the new Lautenberg Act? Does a law that
supposedly protects women and children actually endanger those same groups? These
questions will be answered over lunch as the following speakers share
their knowledge and experience:

Keynote Speaker:
Dr. Suzanna Gratia-Hupp
Member Texas State House of Representatives
Survivor of the Luby's massacre in Killeen, Texas
Other Speakers:
Janalee Tobias
President, Women Against Gun Control
Rebecca John Wyatt
President, SWARM (Safety for Women and Responsible Motherhood)
*Additional Speakers TBA*
Following the luncheon, Gun Owners of America will hold a press
conference. Its purpose will be to accelerate efforts to repeal the Lautenberg
Domestic Violence Gun Ban. As you may know, Rep. Chenoweth's bill (H.R. 1009) is
the only legislation currently before Congress which will repeal the gun
ban in its entirety. It is also the leading repeal initiative, as its 27
cosponsors will attest.

Rep. Chenoweth, GOA personnel, and representatives of several grass-roots
organizations will gather with members of the press to focus attention on
the issue. One highlight will be when Janalee Tobias, President of Women
Against Gun Control, presents Rep. Chenoweth with boxes of petitions in
support of the repeal -- petitions that many of you have signed. Note: if you
have not as yet signed the Women Against Gun Control petition, a cgi version
is at http://www.gunowners.org/petition.htm on the GOA website. We will append your
personal information and any comment you care to make to a copy of the
petition and deliver it to WAGC. Men and women both are invited to sign. Help
make the presentation of the petition a visually exciting moment! If you do
not have web access, we will fax or e-mail you a copy upon request.

Any Second Amendment supporter who will be in the D.C. area on July 14 is
welcome to attend these events. However, space is limited. Please call
Jerry Tramontano at GOA headquarters (703) 321-8585 to reserve your seat if you
wish to be a part of this historic day. You may also RSVP via e-mail.

WAGCEVP · 05-25-2003, 04:28 PM

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http://www.wingsisp.com/hutch/wagc.htm

Women Against Gun Control

An Interview with Nancy Herrington & Janalee Tobias

by Carlo Stagnaro

According to liberals, women require special protection by the government,
so as to secure their right not to be discriminated against. Of course,
this implies women are currently discriminated against by men and are unable
to get others to respect their rights. But this liberal view of the
"helpless little woman" sounds a bit patronizingly sexist, doesn't it?

By contrast, if one thinks women have the same rights and the same
responsibilities as men, one must recognize their right to self defense. After
all, it would be nonsense to advocate equal opportunity while forcing women to
give up the only chance they have to protect themselves from aggression.

National press reports, however, usually present women as against gun
self-defense. They fear firearms and, according to most journalists and
politicians, would like a complete gun ban. Well, this is not true for a lot of
women whom the mainstream media never mention. For example, there is in
America an organization named Women Against Gun Control (http://www.wagc.com)
which defends the Second Amendment of the US Constitutions and the right to
keep and bear arms.

In order to understand their views, we addressed several questions to
Janalee Tobias, WAGC President, and Nancy Herrington, WAGC EVP.

WAGCEVP · 05-25-2003, 04:40 PM

One of my FAVORITE "jobs" is to help students with school projects - speeches, debates, research papers, etc. We get requests from elementary on up through post grad college

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Studen...condAmendment/
==============

Tennessee School Unblocks WAGC Website

that's great! Thanks for your support, Ray.
Nancy Herrington
WAGC- EVP

-------Original Message-------
From: Ray Harvey
Sent: 04/17/03 07:55 AM
To: info@wagc.com
Subject: congratulations

> Congratulations, your site is no longer blocked by the Metro Nashville
[TN]
Davidson County school system and is now available on the school's
internet access.

Yeah! I wrote them a couple of times.

Regards, Ray Harvey
CMP State Junior Director
TNSSA State Junior Chairman

Gun Control: The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and
strangled with her panty hose, is somehow morally
superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that
fatal bullet wound.

"Quemadmodum gladius neminem occidit, occidentis telum
est" ("A sword is never a killer, it's a tool in the killer's hands")

Lucius Annaeus Seneca "the younger" ca. (4 BC - 65 AD)

Women must not depend upon the protection of
man, but must be taught to
protect herself.
- Susan B. Anthony, July 1871

"[Those] who are trying to read the Second Amendment
out of the Constitution by claiming it's not an individual right [are]
courting disaster by encouraging others to use the same means to
eliminate
portions of the Constitution they don't like."
- Alan Dershowitz, Harvard Law School

Evilahole · 05-25-2003, 06:24 PM

You mean school children get to read the point of view of responsible gun owners and actually get to learn about the Second Ammendment?!
Way to go girl!
Congratulations!
I've grown so tired of liberals banning access to websights that they don't agree with...tagging them as instruments of "hate speech".
That was a hard fought victory and you should be commended for it!

05-25-2003, 06:24 PM

As I said the pink is too PC for me. I've never taken to dressing little girls in pink and little boys in blue so as I said in my opening comment it turned me totally off.

So, it may serve your purpose but be advised that there are females out there (me included) who have a slight problem when it comes to how things are presented to us.

Again, I wish your group nothing but the best.

SouthernMoss · 05-25-2003, 07:09 PM

T, that's the nice thing about having lots of different sites that support Second Amendment rights. The pink may not appeal to you and me, but it will attract women who might feel intimidated coming to a site like ours.

Admin · 05-25-2003, 10:39 PM

Correct SM!

Welcome To TFF WAGCEVP!

pickenup · 05-26-2003, 12:54 AM

WAGCEVP,
Welcome to TFF.
I see you have already jumped into the melee.
I am going to send your link around a bit.
When it comes to fighting for our rights, the more the merrier.

05-25-2003, 08:15 AM	#1
WAGCEVP V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Georgia Posts: 179	Women Against Gun Control Come check us out www.wagc.com The Second Amendment is THE equal rights Amendment ! -->

05-25-2003, 08:24 AM	#3
WAGCEVP V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Georgia Posts: 179	Hey, Evilahole, yeah good to see another from Ga on here are you aware that we kicked anti gun @$$ here in Ga this year? BTW, I'm not just evp national, I'm also Georgia State Director Last edited by WAGCEVP; 05-25-2003 at 08:25 AM..

05-25-2003, 09:08 AM	#8
Evilahole V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 348	Great link WAGCEVP! Almost makes me wish I was born a little...different. (Anyone reading more into this that it deserves should know I'm cleaning my Sub 2000 right now.) Last edited by Evilahole; 05-25-2003 at 09:08 AM..

05-25-2003, 02:20 PM	#10
WAGCEVP V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Georgia Posts: 179	Shizamus, somebody here found WAGCfirst :) and yes, I'll make sure a link gets put on WAGC site ===================================== From: mhiacdhvaaebl Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 02:20:44 -0400 To: info@wagc.com Subject: Fire Arms Forum I would like to invite you to check out and join The Fire Arms Forum and join in with people who also support the 2nd Amendment. Also can you put up a link on your website to www.thefirearmsforum.com and we will do likewise. Thank You

05-25-2003, 02:29 PM	#13
WAGCEVP V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Georgia Posts: 179	oh and we had somebody comment on shooting only in self-defense..... for clarification that includes for the defense of others ..... Last edited by WAGCEVP; 05-25-2003 at 02:30 PM..

05-25-2003, 08:20 AM	#2
Evilahole V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 348	Cool! Thanks for the link...I forwarded it to my wife. Good to see another Georgian on...we might be able to get into the Texas Vs Washington turf war soon with a couple more of us.

05-25-2003, 08:26 AM	#4
Evilahole V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 348	Good! Maybe all those sarcastic phone calls and emails did some good after all.

05-25-2003, 08:37 AM	#5
Shizamus Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Vermont Posts: 891	HEY WAGCEVP.. How did you find out about the Firearms forum ? GUN CONTROL : JOB SAFETY FOR CRIMINALS ! Real talk radio, if you dare : www.gcnlive.com www.prisonplanet.com

05-25-2003, 08:44 AM	#6
Zigzag2 Adnanced Senior Member Posts: n/a	Hello WAGCEVP, we are honored to have you with us. I would have responded sooner, but I was busy forwarding your link We look forward to a long and healty realtionship with you and yours!

05-25-2003, 08:57 AM	#7
SouthernMoss Admin Tech Staff Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: SW MS Contributor Posts: 10,651	Welcome aboard, WAGCEVP! Jump right into the melee!

05-25-2003, 09:46 AM	#9
Guest Adnanced Senior Member Posts: n/a	Looks like it has good information. But all that pink color totally turned me off from more than a casual glance. Wish you gals well but it's too PC gender oriented for me.

05-25-2003, 02:21 PM	#11
WAGCEVP V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Georgia Posts: 179	Thank you zigzag!

05-25-2003, 02:26 PM	#12
WAGCEVP V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Georgia Posts: 179	TLynn the pink serves a purpose Too PC? We're as hard core as anybody, don't let it fool you WAGC works with any other group to get the job done. I'm a Gunowners of America Member myself. have been since 1989 We keep in comtact with SAS, Armed females, and the Liberty Belles.

05-25-2003, 02:33 PM	#14
WAGCEVP V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Georgia Posts: 179	Southern Moss, I did As you can see, I'm not shy

05-25-2003, 03:15 PM	#15
Evilahole V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 348	It's good to see "factions" banding together for a common cause. That may be the only way Big Brother will actually take notice of us.

05-25-2003, 03:53 PM	#16
WAGCEVP V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Georgia Posts: 179	the more voices , the louder we are. That's why WAGC was started back ins 1994...... to get female gunowners off their butts and into the fight. after all it's our safety and freedom too We need to be united! Last edited by WAGCEVP; 05-25-2003 at 04:11 PM..

05-25-2003, 04:21 PM	#17
WAGCEVP V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Georgia Posts: 179	Emerson VS USA - WAGC's Amicus Brief $200 for this brief came outa MY pocket ........... ============================================ Emerson vs. USA Amicus Brief here's the brief filed in behalf of WAGC and other groups for Emerson vs. USA. P.S. You can see the other briefs filed for Emerson vs. USA on the SAF website. ----------------------------- Here it is: http://www.saf.org/pub/rkba/Legal/EmersonWOMENbrief.htm Last edited by WAGCEVP; 05-25-2003 at 04:33 PM..

05-25-2003, 04:25 PM	#18
WAGCEVP V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Georgia Posts: 179	GOA event in 1997 -WAGC GOA event in 1997 -WAGC I was there, that was quit an experience! ---------------------------------- http://www.gunowners.org/a062697.htm www.gunowners.org Jun 1997 GOA to hold Press Conference / GOF to host Seminar Luncheon -- plus other odds and ends by Gun Owners of America 8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102 Springfield, VA 22151 (703) 321-8585, fax: 321-8408 (Thursday, June 26, 1997) In cooperation with the office of Representative Helen Chenoweth (R-ID), two events will be held on Capitol Hill the afternoon of Monday, July 14, 1997. Both events are free; GOA members and supporters are invited to attend. First, Gun Owners Foundation will present a seminar/luncheon. Members of Congress and their Firearms/Judiciary Staffs will receive invitations. Are women placed at risk by the new Lautenberg Act? Does a law that supposedly protects women and children actually endanger those same groups? These questions will be answered over lunch as the following speakers share their knowledge and experience: Keynote Speaker: Dr. Suzanna Gratia-Hupp Member Texas State House of Representatives Survivor of the Luby's massacre in Killeen, Texas Other Speakers: Janalee Tobias President, Women Against Gun Control Rebecca John Wyatt President, SWARM (Safety for Women and Responsible Motherhood) Additional Speakers TBA Following the luncheon, Gun Owners of America will hold a press conference. Its purpose will be to accelerate efforts to repeal the Lautenberg Domestic Violence Gun Ban. As you may know, Rep. Chenoweth's bill (H.R. 1009) is the only legislation currently before Congress which will repeal the gun ban in its entirety. It is also the leading repeal initiative, as its 27 cosponsors will attest. Rep. Chenoweth, GOA personnel, and representatives of several grass-roots organizations will gather with members of the press to focus attention on the issue. One highlight will be when Janalee Tobias, President of Women Against Gun Control, presents Rep. Chenoweth with boxes of petitions in support of the repeal -- petitions that many of you have signed. Note: if you have not as yet signed the Women Against Gun Control petition, a cgi version is at http://www.gunowners.org/petition.htm on the GOA website. We will append your personal information and any comment you care to make to a copy of the petition and deliver it to WAGC. Men and women both are invited to sign. Help make the presentation of the petition a visually exciting moment! If you do not have web access, we will fax or e-mail you a copy upon request. Any Second Amendment supporter who will be in the D.C. area on July 14 is welcome to attend these events. However, space is limited. Please call Jerry Tramontano at GOA headquarters (703) 321-8585 to reserve your seat if you wish to be a part of this historic day. You may also RSVP via e-mail. Last edited by WAGCEVP; 05-25-2003 at 04:31 PM..

05-25-2003, 04:28 PM	#19
WAGCEVP V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Georgia Posts: 179	WAGC Italian Interview ----------- http://www.wingsisp.com/hutch/wagc.htm Women Against Gun Control An Interview with Nancy Herrington & Janalee Tobias by Carlo Stagnaro According to liberals, women require special protection by the government, so as to secure their right not to be discriminated against. Of course, this implies women are currently discriminated against by men and are unable to get others to respect their rights. But this liberal view of the "helpless little woman" sounds a bit patronizingly sexist, doesn't it? By contrast, if one thinks women have the same rights and the same responsibilities as men, one must recognize their right to self defense. After all, it would be nonsense to advocate equal opportunity while forcing women to give up the only chance they have to protect themselves from aggression. National press reports, however, usually present women as against gun self-defense. They fear firearms and, according to most journalists and politicians, would like a complete gun ban. Well, this is not true for a lot of women whom the mainstream media never mention. For example, there is in America an organization named Women Against Gun Control (http://www.wagc.com) which defends the Second Amendment of the US Constitutions and the right to keep and bear arms. In order to understand their views, we addressed several questions to Janalee Tobias, WAGC President, and Nancy Herrington, WAGC EVP. __________________ The Second Amendment IS Homeland Security !

05-25-2003, 04:40 PM	#20
WAGCEVP V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Georgia Posts: 179	One of my FAVORITE "jobs" is to help students with school projects - speeches, debates, research papers, etc. We get requests from elementary on up through post grad college http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Studen...condAmendment/ ============== Tennessee School Unblocks WAGC Website that's great! Thanks for your support, Ray. Nancy Herrington WAGC- EVP -------Original Message------- From: Ray Harvey Sent: 04/17/03 07:55 AM To: info@wagc.com Subject: congratulations > Congratulations, your site is no longer blocked by the Metro Nashville [TN] Davidson County school system and is now available on the school's internet access. Yeah! I wrote them a couple of times. Regards, Ray Harvey CMP State Junior Director TNSSA State Junior Chairman Gun Control: The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her panty hose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound. "Quemadmodum gladius neminem occidit, occidentis telum est" ("A sword is never a killer, it's a tool in the killer's hands") Lucius Annaeus Seneca "the younger" ca. (4 BC - 65 AD) Women must not depend upon the protection of man, but must be taught to protect herself. - Susan B. Anthony, July 1871 "[Those] who are trying to read the Second Amendment out of the Constitution by claiming it's not an individual right [are] courting disaster by encouraging others to use the same means to eliminate portions of the Constitution they don't like." - Alan Dershowitz, Harvard Law School __________________ The Second Amendment IS Homeland Security ! Last edited by WAGCEVP; 05-25-2003 at 04:45 PM..

05-25-2003, 06:24 PM	#21
Evilahole V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 348	You mean school children get to read the point of view of responsible gun owners and actually get to learn about the Second Ammendment?! Way to go girl! Congratulations! I've grown so tired of liberals banning access to websights that they don't agree with...tagging them as instruments of "hate speech". That was a hard fought victory and you should be commended for it!

05-25-2003, 07:09 PM	#23
SouthernMoss Admin Tech Staff Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: SW MS Contributor Posts: 10,651	T, that's the nice thing about having lots of different sites that support Second Amendment rights. The pink may not appeal to you and me, but it will attract women who might feel intimidated coming to a site like ours.

05-25-2003, 10:39 PM	#24
Admin Site Network Webmaster Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Site Control Panel Posts: 11,654	Correct SM! Welcome To TFF WAGCEVP!

05-26-2003, 12:54 AM	#25
pickenup Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains Posts: 6,837	WAGCEVP, Welcome to TFF. I see you have already jumped into the melee. I am going to send your link around a bit. When it comes to fighting for our rights, the more the merrier. __________________ The gene pool needs chlorine