Prayer Request - The Firearms Forum

joncutt87 · 05-15-2012, 03:42 PM

Please keep ashley and I in your prayers, especially ashley. We have had some real trials already this week, and she is taking it really hard.

Thank you guys,
Jonathan and Ashley

jlloyd73 · 05-15-2012, 04:46 PM

Praying for you guys.............

Zane71464 · 05-15-2012, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jlloyd73

Praying for you guys.............

+ 1 from Ohio.

carver · 05-15-2012, 04:51 PM

Prayers sent!

BlackEagle · 05-15-2012, 04:58 PM

Will be praying from across the pond. Please keep us updated as you can.

rosierita · 05-15-2012, 05:15 PM

prayer sent from here too.

joncutt87 · 05-15-2012, 05:20 PM

Well, here's what all is happening. The stray that we took in, and made a part of our family has epilepsy and he had a major seizure sunday morning. Ashley's sister will be moving out soon, ams we won't be able to cover her side of the expenses. There was the possibility that I could lose my job this week, which doesn't seem to be happening now. Finally, we got a call from a collection agency this morning stating that we owed our old property management company $1,500 for excessive damage to the property. I don't call replacing worn carpet excessive damage, nor do we feel it should have cost $2,700 to replace said carpet 800 sq ft worth that was already 5 years old when we moved in, and had been stretched.

BlackEagle · 05-15-2012, 05:23 PM

Thanks for the update. Can pray more specifically now.

gunguy25 · 05-15-2012, 06:13 PM

Prayers sent from here

ampaterry · 05-15-2012, 06:22 PM

Lord, we come before you today upholding Jonathan and Ashley.

They have faced trial after trial, Lord, and we ask that you would intervene in their situation and give them some relief.
We don't pray about specifics, Father, because we know that you already know the best way to handle this situation that would be best for them. What we do ask, Lord, is that you have mercy on them and do not delay your answer to them.

Give this family a blessing, Lord -

And we ask these things in name of Jesus, the Christ - the Beginning and the End.

jack404 · 05-15-2012, 06:24 PM

Bobitis · 05-15-2012, 06:40 PM

You and Ashley will be in my thoughts.

NEVER believe what someone 'claims' you owe them. Specially landlords. Threats are a common tactic used by these types. Its the reason you have laws that address the matter.

Check your State/County/City laws concerning landlord/tenent laws and abuses. I'm pretty sure you'll be glad you did. It helped me greatly at one time under similar circumstances.

By ALL means, do not be afraid to contact the BBB, ATTY General, or any other orginization that oversees these matter. Be prepared to present your position in writing, send letters with the appropriate postage (certified return receipt requested), and send copies to all that may be interested. Make sure ya put CC at the bottom of any/all correspondence. That way EVERYONE knows what's going on. Yea, it takes some time and the cost of postage.

Landlords are predators. They thrive on the ignorent. Show 'em how much you know and how you plan to do battle with them. They WILL back down.

No little black lies tho. Everything must be the truth. They HATE that.

Good luck and keep us awares.

Zane71464 · 05-15-2012, 10:36 PM

What Bobitis said, so true! ^^^

ampaterry · 05-16-2012, 08:38 AM

While true in many cases, there ARE good landlords.
My Son-in-law, for instance.
It is absolutely unbelievable what HE has to put up with.

Once, the police raided one of his rentals based on a tip that a BG was hiding out there.
The intel was false.
But they broke the windows out, destroyed the sills, destroyed the venetian blinds, shot tear gas grenades into the interior which stunk the place up and burned several black spots into the carpet and floors, and splintered the front door.
He dug into it with his attorney, and guess what? The government is NOT responsible for damages caused in an erroneous action like this.
He has insurance, of course, but has to pay the deductable, and is just OUT the loss of rent until it is all back in top shape ready to rent again.

In another of his rentals, this one a quad-plex, someone skipped out without paying the rent, and some druggies moved in and cooked off a batch of Meth in the vacant appartment.
The government guys came in and tested all the apartments and found the entire building had been contaminated by the meth cooking.
So, he moved three families out until the entire building could be made safe again and lost the rent from all four units. He paid the rent at another place for the three displaced families because some landlords ARE straight-up people.

Back when we rented, we had a couple of each kind - -

Double D · 05-16-2012, 09:21 AM

I manage 21 houses right now. I know a little bit about the rental business myself. Landlords are not what bobitis says. At least im not.

rosierita · 05-16-2012, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Double D

I manage 21 houses right now. I know a little bit about the rental business myself. Landlords are not what bobitis says. At least im not.

me either.

Bobitis · 05-16-2012, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Double D

I manage 21 houses right now. I know a little bit about the rental business myself. Landlords are not what bobitis says. At least im not.

Forgive me Dan for making such a sweeping accusation. It was not my intent. But I'm sure it's true for the majority out there.

I had a similar experience as John with a rental unit. When I moved in, we went through a punch list of the unit. I noted that the carpet was worn out, stained, etc. When I moved out, I was told that I was responsible for replacing the carpet. Ummm... NO!

Fortunately I had the original punch list, and there, sideways to the rest of the list, was a notation initilialed by the landlords rep as to the condition of the carpet. They caved when I brought it to their attention.

There's good and bad in all walks of life, and a lotta folks would take advantage of you if you let them. Gleefully for that matter.

My post was not directed at you, but the scum that is out there preying on those less inclined to defend themselves.

Sorry if ya took it wrong.

76Highboy · 05-16-2012, 07:43 PM

Hey John, my prayers are sent brother.

Jim

joncutt87 · 05-17-2012, 03:44 AM

Thanks again guys, we've been in contact with the BBB and they have a lot of complaints. We also contacted an attorney, but I don't believe we have heard back. Had ashley and I been together when she moved into that place, we wouldn't be having this issue.

Double D · 05-17-2012, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobitis

Forgive me Dan for making such a sweeping accusation. It was not my intent. But I'm sure it's true for the majority out there.

I had a similar experience as John with a rental unit. When I moved in, we went through a punch list of the unit. I noted that the carpet was worn out, stained, etc. When I moved out, I was told that I was responsible for replacing the carpet. Ummm... NO!

Fortunately I had the original punch list, and there, sideways to the rest of the list, was a notation initilialed by the landlords rep as to the condition of the carpet. They caved when I brought it to their attention.

There's good and bad in all walks of life, and a lotta folks would take advantage of you if you let them. Gleefully for that matter.

My post was not directed at you, but the scum that is out there preying on those less inclined to defend themselves.

Sorry if ya took it wrong.

No big deal bob, but like you said you cant lump everyone together. I am johnny on the spot when it comes to repairs and my units are nice and I keep people long term. I dont play games with anyone. I am frank and honest and up front in the beginning so there is no question where I stand and any one of my tenants would say I am fair. If people do the right thing, they get their deposit back no problem. A list is made at the time of signing the lease and any repairs that need addressed are done right away. No games here.

joncutt87 · 05-17-2012, 04:35 PM

Hopefully we can rent my grandparents unit

agedhunter · 05-17-2012, 09:18 PM

When my friends daughter rented a garage apartment for collage a few years ago. I took digital picks of every room and any problems before she moved in. I made two copies of cd's with the pics one for her one for the landlord no problems. very nice people felt good they were keeping an eye on her.

GraveYardMan56 · 05-17-2012, 09:39 PM

My ex-wife is a landlord of a rent house. We had bought it ostensibly to place my step-son in decent housing, but he moved his small family away up to New York,close to his Dad. There IS horror stories about tenants, too. I recently went to replace a shattered shower door at the property. A heavy(read expensive) glass door that the tenant says she just was setting the toilet lid down when the shower door just shattered to the floor. I was not there, but my guess is something else caused the door to shatter. Have you ever picked up tempered glass? What a chore. Anyway, I highly second ampiterry's beautiful prayer. Take heart... a true and faithful Heavenly Father is right now answering that prayer. Power resides in your faith.

05-15-2012, 03:42 PM	#1
joncutt87 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Kannapolis, NC Contributor Posts: 1,419	Prayer Request Please keep ashley and I in your prayers, especially ashley. We have had some real trials already this week, and she is taking it really hard. Thank you guys, Jonathan and Ashley __________________ Four words to live by: aequitas, veritas, decus, sacrificium -->

05-15-2012, 04:46 PM	#2
jlloyd73 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Contributor Posts: 1,938	Re: Prayer Request Praying for you guys............. __________________ --------------------------------------------------- The only thing better than good family is good friends. J and D Lloyd Get ready...it's getting "real" and really fast!

05-15-2012, 04:51 PM	#4
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,550	Re: Prayer Request Prayers sent! __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.

05-15-2012, 04:58 PM	#5
BlackEagle Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: UK Posts: 3,248	Re: Prayer Request Will be praying from across the pond. Please keep us updated as you can.

05-15-2012, 05:15 PM	#6
rosierita Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: South Carolina Posts: 5,218	Re: Prayer Request prayer sent from here too. __________________

05-15-2012, 05:20 PM	#7
joncutt87 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Kannapolis, NC Contributor Posts: 1,419	Re: Prayer Request Well, here's what all is happening. The stray that we took in, and made a part of our family has epilepsy and he had a major seizure sunday morning. Ashley's sister will be moving out soon, ams we won't be able to cover her side of the expenses. There was the possibility that I could lose my job this week, which doesn't seem to be happening now. Finally, we got a call from a collection agency this morning stating that we owed our old property management company $1,500 for excessive damage to the property. I don't call replacing worn carpet excessive damage, nor do we feel it should have cost $2,700 to replace said carpet 800 sq ft worth that was already 5 years old when we moved in, and had been stretched. __________________ Four words to live by: aequitas, veritas, decus, sacrificium

05-15-2012, 05:23 PM	#8
BlackEagle Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: UK Posts: 3,248	Re: Prayer Request Thanks for the update. Can pray more specifically now.

05-15-2012, 06:13 PM	#9
gunguy25 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: TN Contributor Posts: 883	Re: Prayer Request Prayers sent from here

05-15-2012, 06:22 PM	#10
ampaterry TFF Admin Staff Chaplain Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: West Tennessee Contributor Posts: 6,378	Re: Prayer Request Lord, we come before you today upholding Jonathan and Ashley. They have faced trial after trial, Lord, and we ask that you would intervene in their situation and give them some relief. We don't pray about specifics, Father, because we know that you already know the best way to handle this situation that would be best for them. What we do ask, Lord, is that you have mercy on them and do not delay your answer to them. Give this family a blessing, Lord - And we ask these things in name of Jesus, the Christ - the Beginning and the End. __________________ Reason given by one of Obama's more intellectual supporters when asked why she voted for him: *"He gave me a PHONE!!"*

05-15-2012, 06:24 PM	#11
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: Prayer Request Amen

05-15-2012, 06:40 PM	#12
Bobitis Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 6,612	Re: Prayer Request You and Ashley will be in my thoughts. NEVER believe what someone 'claims' you owe them. Specially landlords. Threats are a common tactic used by these types. Its the reason you have laws that address the matter. Check your State/County/City laws concerning landlord/tenent laws and abuses. I'm pretty sure you'll be glad you did. It helped me greatly at one time under similar circumstances. By ALL means, do not be afraid to contact the BBB, ATTY General, or any other orginization that oversees these matter. Be prepared to present your position in writing, send letters with the appropriate postage (certified return receipt requested), and send copies to all that may be interested. Make sure ya put CC at the bottom of any/all correspondence. That way EVERYONE knows what's going on. Yea, it takes some time and the cost of postage. Landlords are predators. They thrive on the ignorent. Show 'em how much you know and how you plan to do battle with them. They WILL back down. No little black lies tho. Everything must be the truth. They HATE that. Good luck and keep us awares. __________________ ^.^ A point in every direction is the same as having no point at all

05-15-2012, 10:36 PM	#13
Zane71464 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Ohio NRA Member Contributor Posts: 5,415	Re: Prayer Request What Bobitis said, so true! ^^^ __________________ Two Words; "Simple Man", song by Charlie Daniels sums up my thoughts on a "few things"!

05-16-2012, 08:38 AM	#14
ampaterry TFF Admin Staff Chaplain Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: West Tennessee Contributor Posts: 6,378	Re: Prayer Request While true in many cases, there ARE good landlords. My Son-in-law, for instance. It is absolutely unbelievable what HE has to put up with. Once, the police raided one of his rentals based on a tip that a BG was hiding out there. The intel was false. But they broke the windows out, destroyed the sills, destroyed the venetian blinds, shot tear gas grenades into the interior which stunk the place up and burned several black spots into the carpet and floors, and splintered the front door. He dug into it with his attorney, and guess what? The government is NOT responsible for damages caused in an erroneous action like this. He has insurance, of course, but has to pay the deductable, and is just OUT the loss of rent until it is all back in top shape ready to rent again. In another of his rentals, this one a quad-plex, someone skipped out without paying the rent, and some druggies moved in and cooked off a batch of Meth in the vacant appartment. The government guys came in and tested all the apartments and found the entire building had been contaminated by the meth cooking. So, he moved three families out until the entire building could be made safe again and lost the rent from all four units. He paid the rent at another place for the three displaced families because some landlords ARE straight-up people. Back when we rented, we had a couple of each kind - - __________________ Reason given by one of Obama's more intellectual supporters when asked why she voted for him: *"He gave me a PHONE!!"*

05-16-2012, 09:21 AM	#15
Double D TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: North Florida Contributor Posts: 8,257	Re: Prayer Request I manage 21 houses right now. I know a little bit about the rental business myself. Landlords are not what bobitis says. At least im not. __________________ I own a bunch of scary guns. You want em? Come and take em..... Liberalism is a serious, non curable, mental disorder... NRA LIFE MEMBER Oath Keepers Member NRA Certified Instructor 30 Yr CC permit holder. Last edited by Double D; 05-16-2012 at 09:22 AM..

05-16-2012, 07:43 PM	#18
76Highboy Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Meridian, Idaho Contributor Posts: 7,094	Re: Prayer Request Hey John, my prayers are sent brother. Jim

05-17-2012, 03:44 AM	#19
joncutt87 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Kannapolis, NC Contributor Posts: 1,419	Re: Prayer Request Thanks again guys, we've been in contact with the BBB and they have a lot of complaints. We also contacted an attorney, but I don't believe we have heard back. Had ashley and I been together when she moved into that place, we wouldn't be having this issue. __________________ Four words to live by: aequitas, veritas, decus, sacrificium

05-17-2012, 04:35 PM	#21
joncutt87 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Kannapolis, NC Contributor Posts: 1,419	Re: Prayer Request Hopefully we can rent my grandparents unit __________________ Four words to live by: aequitas, veritas, decus, sacrificium

05-17-2012, 09:18 PM	#22
agedhunter V.I.P. Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: northern mn Contributor Posts: 167	Re: Prayer Request When my friends daughter rented a garage apartment for collage a few years ago. I took digital picks of every room and any problems before she moved in. I made two copies of cd's with the pics one for her one for the landlord no problems. very nice people felt good they were keeping an eye on her.

05-17-2012, 09:39 PM	#23
GraveYardMan56 Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 22	Re: Prayer Request My ex-wife is a landlord of a rent house. We had bought it ostensibly to place my step-son in decent housing, but he moved his small family away up to New York,close to his Dad. There IS horror stories about tenants, too. I recently went to replace a shattered shower door at the property. A heavy(read expensive) glass door that the tenant says she just was setting the toilet lid down when the shower door just shattered to the floor. I was not there, but my guess is something else caused the door to shatter. Have you ever picked up tempered glass? What a chore. Anyway, I highly second ampiterry's beautiful prayer. Take heart... a true and faithful Heavenly Father is right now answering that prayer. Power resides in your faith.