Lorenz Karlsruhe 47 or 48 mm shell - The Firearms Forum

funky boom · 01-29-2012, 03:32 AM

Hi, not sure if I am in the right spot...if not let me know

We have a brass, we think, shell and we are trying to date it if possible.
It has raised stamping of Lorenz Karlsruhe and 2 little * type stamps. No other information is stamped on it.
Can someone please help or guide us in the right direction please?

jack404 · 01-29-2012, 04:46 AM

G'day and welcome!

do you mean 47 mm LONG ( length of shell ) or wide as in cal of shell ..

funky boom · 01-29-2012, 04:53 AM

oh sorry, I meant wide.....

funky boom · 01-29-2012, 04:54 AM

and 150mm long

jack404 · 01-29-2012, 05:01 AM

jack404 · 01-29-2012, 05:04 AM

good brass on those common in ww1 on both french and german side's , the US standardised was a 3" gun modified from its naval use to a small field gun

should be marked Bst./Hst. LORENZ + KARLSRUHE + or LORENZ + KARLSRUHE +

funky boom · 01-29-2012, 05:29 AM

thank you! Wish I could read German though!!! I know this is going to sound stupid but I won't know if I don't ask.....what does Bst/Hst mean?

jack404 · 01-29-2012, 05:44 AM

actually its french but they bought a lot of these guns from the germans from the 1890's onward they where a fast firing cannon ( the earliest repeating canon )
Bst/Hst is a reference to the stamp marked and where head stamp is Hst..

funky boom · 01-29-2012, 06:01 AM

****face slaps***
Sorry! Thanks so much for the info. Is there anywhere you can recommend to go to find out further info?

jack404 · 01-29-2012, 03:06 PM

European small arms of the 19th century has some info and there'd be a number of books on light cannons

this is a updated clone http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/47_mm_APX_anti-tank_gun

and a pic of one from ww1

01-29-2012, 03:32 AM	#1
funky boom Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 5	Lorenz Karlsruhe 47 or 48 mm shell Hi, not sure if I am in the right spot...if not let me know We have a brass, we think, shell and we are trying to date it if possible. It has raised stamping of Lorenz Karlsruhe and 2 little * type stamps. No other information is stamped on it. Can someone please help or guide us in the right direction please? -->

01-29-2012, 04:46 AM	#2
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: Lorenz Karlsruhe 47 or 48 mm shell G'day and welcome! do you mean 47 mm LONG ( length of shell ) or wide as in cal of shell ..

01-29-2012, 04:53 AM	#3
funky boom Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 5	Re: Lorenz Karlsruhe 47 or 48 mm shell oh sorry, I meant wide.....

01-29-2012, 04:54 AM	#4
funky boom Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 5	Re: Lorenz Karlsruhe 47 or 48 mm shell and 150mm long

01-29-2012, 05:01 AM	#5
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: Lorenz Karlsruhe 47 or 48 mm shell

01-29-2012, 05:04 AM	#6
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: Lorenz Karlsruhe 47 or 48 mm shell good brass on those common in ww1 on both french and german side's , the US standardised was a 3" gun modified from its naval use to a small field gun should be marked Bst./Hst. LORENZ + KARLSRUHE + or LORENZ + KARLSRUHE + Last edited by jack404; 01-29-2012 at 05:05 AM..

01-29-2012, 05:29 AM	#7
funky boom Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 5	Re: Lorenz Karlsruhe 47 or 48 mm shell thank you! Wish I could read German though!!! I know this is going to sound stupid but I won't know if I don't ask.....what does Bst/Hst mean?

01-29-2012, 05:44 AM	#8
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: Lorenz Karlsruhe 47 or 48 mm shell actually its french but they bought a lot of these guns from the germans from the 1890's onward they where a fast firing cannon ( the earliest repeating canon ) Bst/Hst is a reference to the stamp marked and where head stamp is Hst..

01-29-2012, 06:01 AM	#9
funky boom Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 5	Re: Lorenz Karlsruhe 47 or 48 mm shell **face slaps* Sorry! Thanks so much for the info. Is there anywhere you can recommend to go to find out further info?

01-29-2012, 03:06 PM	#10
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: Lorenz Karlsruhe 47 or 48 mm shell European small arms of the 19th century has some info and there'd be a number of books on light cannons this is a updated clone http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/47_mm_APX_anti-tank_gun and a pic of one from ww1