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22WRF · 03-03-2009, 08:33 AM

r maybe leaving your kids at home because vehicles are a lead risk. What about car and trucks?

If you are in the market to buy your child a new ATV, you're out of luck.

ATV dealers in Escambia County — like dealers across the country — have pulled ATVs and dirt bikes for children off sales floors because of a federal law that recently took effect.

The Consumer Product Safety Commission's ban on toys with lead in them includes ATVs, off-road motorbikes, and some parts and accessories designed for children 12 and under.

Kenny Craig of Pensacola has been riding off-road vehicles for the past 30 years. He has three children — ages 4, 7 and 17 — who ride mini-dune buggies, and he thinks the new law has gone overboard.

"That means there are going to be a lot of parents buying adult ATVs for kids; that's what it boils down to," Craig said. "So there will end up being more injuries because of this law."

The ban stems from the presence of lead in the battery, brake components, valve stems and other parts of the machines. Dealers who don't pull these models off the floor could face big fines.

They won't be sold again until manufacturers meet accepted limits for lead content, lead paint and phthalate, a chemical sometimes used to increase flexibility in plastic parts.

Terry Gonzalez, a salesman for Cycleworld in Pensacola, said it's not affecting business right now because Christmas is when most ATVs for children 12 and under are purchased.

But Wayne Briske, chairman of the statewide Off Highway Vehicle Advisory Council, has concerns about the law's impact on a broad community of riders.

"We're already in a hurting economy, and now we are going to take our local motorcycle and ATV dealers and put them under more stress," Briske said. "Unlike toys, where children are going to be handling them or putting them in their face, it is highly unlikely children would have valve stems or tires or the battery in their mouth.

"If you want to go this far, you have to start banning cars too, because they have lead in them and children ride in them," Briske said.

It's unclear whether manufacturers will have the issues corrected by the time the holiday buying season rolls around.

Kevin Wells of Pace worked in motorcycle shops for 10 years. He and his two sons still ride ATVs in Santa Rosa County as a family sport.

"I think that would be atrocious to lose 12-and-under ATVs and dirt bikes, because kids don't have a lot of options for sports," Wells said. "And there are a lot of kids who want to ride here."

358 winchester · 03-03-2009, 09:14 AM

First your money then your clothes !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

armedandsafe · 03-03-2009, 12:09 PM

The latest rules and regs on this are really hurting charities, also. FirstInLine works for GoodWill. She says that they can no longer furnish used clothing to needy families because of the new requirement that each and every donation be tested for lead content. At $4000 to test each sweater, jacket, blouse, shirt, pants, etc. they are just about out of the help clothe families business.

Pops

jacksonco · 03-03-2009, 02:24 PM

Goverment Bureaucracy gone wild again.

358 winchester · 03-03-2009, 02:30 PM

I just got back from a short fast trip to Pensacola and the lots are empty. None of the recreational vehicle lots have more than one or two vehicles on them the back of their shops have them all with signs all over saying
"NOT FOR SALE, THANK YOUR CONGRESSMAN"

03-03-2009, 08:33 AM	#1
22WRF Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pea Ridge, FL Contributor Posts: 4,251	We my be walking soon r maybe leaving your kids at home because vehicles are a lead risk. What about car and trucks? If you are in the market to buy your child a new ATV, you're out of luck. ATV dealers in Escambia County — like dealers across the country — have pulled ATVs and dirt bikes for children off sales floors because of a federal law that recently took effect. The Consumer Product Safety Commission's ban on toys with lead in them includes ATVs, off-road motorbikes, and some parts and accessories designed for children 12 and under. Kenny Craig of Pensacola has been riding off-road vehicles for the past 30 years. He has three children — ages 4, 7 and 17 — who ride mini-dune buggies, and he thinks the new law has gone overboard. "That means there are going to be a lot of parents buying adult ATVs for kids; that's what it boils down to," Craig said. "So there will end up being more injuries because of this law." The ban stems from the presence of lead in the battery, brake components, valve stems and other parts of the machines. Dealers who don't pull these models off the floor could face big fines. They won't be sold again until manufacturers meet accepted limits for lead content, lead paint and phthalate, a chemical sometimes used to increase flexibility in plastic parts. Terry Gonzalez, a salesman for Cycleworld in Pensacola, said it's not affecting business right now because Christmas is when most ATVs for children 12 and under are purchased. But Wayne Briske, chairman of the statewide Off Highway Vehicle Advisory Council, has concerns about the law's impact on a broad community of riders. "We're already in a hurting economy, and now we are going to take our local motorcycle and ATV dealers and put them under more stress," Briske said. "Unlike toys, where children are going to be handling them or putting them in their face, it is highly unlikely children would have valve stems or tires or the battery in their mouth. "If you want to go this far, you have to start banning cars too, because they have lead in them and children ride in them," Briske said. It's unclear whether manufacturers will have the issues corrected by the time the holiday buying season rolls around. Kevin Wells of Pace worked in motorcycle shops for 10 years. He and his two sons still ride ATVs in Santa Rosa County as a family sport. "I think that would be atrocious to lose 12-and-under ATVs and dirt bikes, because kids don't have a lot of options for sports," Wells said. "And there are a lot of kids who want to ride here." __________________ NRA GOA CCRKBA Happiness is a warm barrel -->

03-03-2009, 09:14 AM	#2
358 winchester TFF Admin Staff Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Pensacola Fl. area Posts: 7,335	Re: We my be walking soon First your money then your clothes !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! __________________ Administrator & Owner RangeDay.com Proud, White, Heterosexual, Gun Owning, Southern American, Christian. Any question about where I stand?

03-03-2009, 12:09 PM	#3
armedandsafe Former Guest Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Moses Lake, WA Posts: 10,344	Re: We my be walking soon The latest rules and regs on this are really hurting charities, also. FirstInLine works for GoodWill. She says that they can no longer furnish used clothing to needy families because of the new requirement that each and every donation be tested for lead content. At $4000 to test each sweater, jacket, blouse, shirt, pants, etc. they are just about out of the help clothe families business. Pops

03-03-2009, 02:24 PM	#4
jacksonco Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Jackson County West Virginia Posts: 2,237	Re: We my be walking soon Goverment Bureaucracy gone wild again.

03-03-2009, 02:30 PM	#5
358 winchester TFF Admin Staff Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Pensacola Fl. area Posts: 7,335	Re: We my be walking soon I just got back from a short fast trip to Pensacola and the lots are empty. None of the recreational vehicle lots have more than one or two vehicles on them the back of their shops have them all with signs all over saying "NOT FOR SALE, THANK YOUR CONGRESSMAN" __________________ Administrator & Owner RangeDay.com Proud, White, Heterosexual, Gun Owning, Southern American, Christian. Any question about where I stand?