1940 Luger w/Navy Flatboard stock - The Firearms Forum

Strychnine · 12-25-2009, 03:07 AM

Am in question of value and information on a 9mm Luger, 1940 ser#842, with a small letter scripted (d) under the barrel on the frame. Can not find any information as to where this might have originated. Also, have a pristine flatboard stock attachment, Navy, 12+ inches with insert. No belting.
Thank you

wonderwhippet · 12-25-2009, 09:33 PM

For any kind of a meaningful answer, photos are absolutely mandatory.

Strychnine · 12-27-2009, 09:57 AM

Tried to add more description, but to no avail. 1940 stamped over the barrel, and a 42 on the toggle. Suspect it is a 42 version??

wonderwhippet · 12-27-2009, 03:05 PM

The pistol was made in 1940. The Number 42 is a code which tells us it was manufactured by Mauser. Your pics are too blurry to get an idea of the condition of the pistol. I believe they will be much clearer if you set your camera to the "macro" function. Depending on condition and whether the numbers match (including the magazine) the value of your Luger will run anywhere from $650 to $1800. The navy shoulder sytock is a reproduction, and is worth between $100 and $150.

Jim K · 12-27-2009, 09:56 PM

If the gun is not registered with the Feds, and the stock is a repro, the stock is better lost in the woods. BATFE has removed Luger and Mauser pistols with ORIGINAL shoulder stocks from the purview of the National Firearms Act and declared them curios and relics, though still handguns. But a pistol with a reproduction or toy gun stock is still a short barrel rifle and cannot legally be possessed unless registered.

Jim

Strychnine · 12-28-2009, 05:11 AM

how do you tell if the stock is original or repro?? Thank you folks for helping to establish the value and info.

wonderwhippet · 12-28-2009, 01:02 PM

Original stocks have a serial number on the metal fitting. There are also indentifying marks on the wood. I believe it is legal to possess the stock as long as you don't mount it on your Luger.

Jim K · 12-28-2009, 01:06 PM

Wonderwhippet said the stock is a repro, and I am inclined to agree, but we would need much better pictures. For one thing, IIRC, the discs in the Navy stocks were brass.

On stock possession, the ruling is that if you have a pistol with a barrel under 16" and a stock that can be put on it (whether it is on or not), you have a short barrel rifle which must be registered to be legal. Before the ruling changed to allow original stocks, many collectors removed the stock "iron" and hid it, or put some weld in the slot of either the pistol or the stock lug so the stock could not be attached.

Actually, that is a standard Army pistol and would likely not have been issued with a Navy (or any) stock, but if the stock is original, I doubt anyone would care about the details.

Jim

12-25-2009, 03:07 AM	#1
Strychnine Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 5	1940 Luger w/Navy Flatboard stock Am in question of value and information on a 9mm Luger, 1940 ser#842, with a small letter scripted (d) under the barrel on the frame. Can not find any information as to where this might have originated. Also, have a pristine flatboard stock attachment, Navy, 12+ inches with insert. No belting. Thank you Attached Images --> Last edited by Strychnine; 12-27-2009 at 06:00 AM.. Reason: add pictures

12-25-2009, 09:33 PM	#2
wonderwhippet Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,586	Re: 1940 Luger w/Navy Flatboard stock For any kind of a meaningful answer, photos are absolutely mandatory.

12-27-2009, 09:57 AM	#3
Strychnine Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 5	Re: 1940 Luger w/Navy Flatboard stock Tried to add more description, but to no avail. 1940 stamped over the barrel, and a 42 on the toggle. Suspect it is a 42 version??

12-27-2009, 03:05 PM	#4
wonderwhippet Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,586	Re: 1940 Luger w/Navy Flatboard stock The pistol was made in 1940. The Number 42 is a code which tells us it was manufactured by Mauser. Your pics are too blurry to get an idea of the condition of the pistol. I believe they will be much clearer if you set your camera to the "macro" function. Depending on condition and whether the numbers match (including the magazine) the value of your Luger will run anywhere from $650 to $1800. The navy shoulder sytock is a reproduction, and is worth between $100 and $150.

12-27-2009, 09:56 PM	#5
Jim K Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 6,408	Re: 1940 Luger w/Navy Flatboard stock If the gun is not registered with the Feds, and the stock is a repro, the stock is better lost in the woods. BATFE has removed Luger and Mauser pistols with ORIGINAL shoulder stocks from the purview of the National Firearms Act and declared them curios and relics, though still handguns. But a pistol with a reproduction or toy gun stock is still a short barrel rifle and cannot legally be possessed unless registered. Jim

12-28-2009, 05:11 AM	#6
Strychnine Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 5	Re: 1940 Luger w/Navy Flatboard stock how do you tell if the stock is original or repro?? Thank you folks for helping to establish the value and info.

12-28-2009, 01:02 PM	#7
wonderwhippet Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,586	Re: 1940 Luger w/Navy Flatboard stock Original stocks have a serial number on the metal fitting. There are also indentifying marks on the wood. I believe it is legal to possess the stock as long as you don't mount it on your Luger.

12-28-2009, 01:06 PM	#8
Jim K Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 6,408	Re: 1940 Luger w/Navy Flatboard stock Wonderwhippet said the stock is a repro, and I am inclined to agree, but we would need much better pictures. For one thing, IIRC, the discs in the Navy stocks were brass. On stock possession, the ruling is that if you have a pistol with a barrel under 16" and a stock that can be put on it (whether it is on or not), you have a short barrel rifle which must be registered to be legal. Before the ruling changed to allow original stocks, many collectors removed the stock "iron" and hid it, or put some weld in the slot of either the pistol or the stock lug so the stock could not be attached. Actually, that is a standard Army pistol and would likely not have been issued with a Navy (or any) stock, but if the stock is original, I doubt anyone would care about the details. Jim Last edited by Jim K; 12-28-2009 at 01:12 PM..