The Firearms Forum - Gun Community  
TheFirearmsForum.com
FOUNDED: February 9, 2001
If you prefer to make a donation by check,
send an email to Support for the mailing address.

Go Back   The Firearms Forum - Gun Community > Firearm-related Activities > The Ammo & Reloading Forum

Notices


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 01-07-2012, 12:16 AM   #1
Ron01013
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: MA.
Posts: 19
Default ??? Case Sizing ???

I d-primed 300 9mm shells with the Lee hand Loader and re-primed with the Lee hand primer
These cases did not size and won't fit into my beretta 92fs...I have since brought a turret press and it's working fine
??? is it possible to remove the d-primer from the lee die and re-size a live round???
Is it safe???
Thanks for any help,
Ron

-->
Ron01013 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2012, 02:12 AM   #2
woolleyworm
*TFF Moderator/Host*
 
woolleyworm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: SW Fort Worth
Contributor
Posts: 4,885
Default Re: ??? Case Sizing ???

Do not resize a live round; you can resize with just a live primer installed.
__________________
.
What are you gonna do, talk the alien to death? -- (on Sigourney Weaver's worry about Guns in Aliens)

"Safety is something that happens between your ears, not something you hold in your hands."

"I carry a small gun to compensate for my huge Blue press."
.
woolleyworm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2012, 02:18 AM   #3
woolleyworm
*TFF Moderator/Host*
 
woolleyworm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: SW Fort Worth
Contributor
Posts: 4,885
Default Re: ??? Case Sizing ???

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron01013 View Post
I d-primed 300 9mm shells with the Lee hand Loader and re-primed with the Lee hand primer
These cases did not size and won't fit into my beretta 92fs...I have since brought a turret press and it's working fine
??? is it possible to remove the d-primer from the lee die and re-size a live round???
Is it safe???
Thanks for any help,
Ron
I'm pretty sure that you've just got an empty case with a live primer, but I won't assume anything when it comes to reloading; so don't take my previous post as trying to be a smart$$$. A live "round" to me is one that is completed and ready to chamber for firing. A primed case is what I think you have at this point.
__________________
.
What are you gonna do, talk the alien to death? -- (on Sigourney Weaver's worry about Guns in Aliens)

"Safety is something that happens between your ears, not something you hold in your hands."

"I carry a small gun to compensate for my huge Blue press."
.
woolleyworm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2012, 02:54 AM   #4
CampingJosh
*TFF Moderator/Host*
 
CampingJosh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Indiana
Contributor
Posts: 4,788
Default Re: ??? Case Sizing ???

Pull the bullets, dump the powder back into your container, remove the decapping pin from your resizing die, and put on your safety glasses.

Actually, now that I think a minute longer, I'm not sure I'd be as keen on doing this with the Lee Loader as with a bench-mounted press. If a primer pops inside a case inside a die on my press, some hot gasses will come out the top of my die, but my hand is nowhere close to that.

I guess I'm really not familiar enough with the Lee Loader to offer a real recommendation, but I would recommend you use caution in whatever you do.
__________________
Nothing posted on TheFirearmsForum.com constitutes legal, accounting, gunsmithing, or other professional advice. Readers are encouraged to consult with qualified professionals for real advice.

Your life is lived at your own risk. Don't blame me for the dumb things you do.
CampingJosh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2012, 06:00 AM   #5
Ron01013
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: MA.
Posts: 19
Default Re: ??? Case Sizing ???

Wooleyworm,
These are fully loaded and primed bullets, so thanks for the info...
I'll break them apart and re-size them. I now have a Lee turret Press so I should be ok
Thanks again everyone,
Ron
Ron01013 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2012, 04:10 PM   #6
woolleyworm
*TFF Moderator/Host*
 
woolleyworm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: SW Fort Worth
Contributor
Posts: 4,885
Default Re: ??? Case Sizing ???

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron01013 View Post
Wooleyworm,
These are fully loaded and primed bullets, so thanks for the info...
I'll break them apart and re-size them. I now have a Lee turret Press so I should be ok
Thanks again everyone,
Ron
No problem Ron, you'll make quick work putting them back together on the turret. It will be a pain pulling all those bullets though. Do you have a collet puller or kinetic?
I have a habit of making a dummy round on new loads or using a case guage to check live ammo before I load more than a dozen or so. I will recheck every so often (50-100 rounds) just to ensure that nothing has gone out of spec.
__________________
.
What are you gonna do, talk the alien to death? -- (on Sigourney Weaver's worry about Guns in Aliens)

"Safety is something that happens between your ears, not something you hold in your hands."

"I carry a small gun to compensate for my huge Blue press."
.
woolleyworm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2012, 01:50 PM   #7
Dirtypacman
Senior Member
 
Dirtypacman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Merrimac Valley, MA
Posts: 908
Default Re: ??? Case Sizing ???

I learned the hard way that a Case Gauge is HIGHLY recommended.
I have yet to press a new round that did not properly chamber since spending that short money.
__________________
Member HHRG and HSC, NRA Life Member, GOAL Member
LTC-A
Dirtypacman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2012, 01:55 PM   #8
Alpo
Advanced Senior Member
 
Alpo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: NW Florida
Posts: 8,662
Default Re: ??? Case Sizing ???

Rather than a bullet puller, I'd get a Lee Factory Crimp die, and back the crimp ring off. It has a carbide sizer ring at the bottom, just for straitening out little problems like this, and I have NEVER had one that I've used the FCD on that did not fit.

It resizes the loaded round.
__________________
Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy, and taste good with catsup - George of Lod, Year of Our Lord 297

I always take precautions.

Beware the Evil Bullet Fairies.

Alpo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2012, 04:29 PM   #9
woolleyworm
*TFF Moderator/Host*
 
woolleyworm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: SW Fort Worth
Contributor
Posts: 4,885
Default Re: ??? Case Sizing ???

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpo View Post
Rather than a bullet puller, I'd get a Lee Factory Crimp die, and back the crimp ring off. It has a carbide sizer ring at the bottom, just for straitening out little problems like this, and I have NEVER had one that I've used the FCD on that did not fit.

It resizes the loaded round.
Alpo, that is a great idea. Safe to use on a loaded round and should get the job done as intended.

btw for anyone out there new to reloading : Main reason I told the OP not to resize the loaded round was NOT for fear of it going off; but rather, you can't run a round with a bullet seated into your sizing die. It will jam, stick and possibly ruin your sizing die. Since the LFCD is a collet type die, you can and it is intended to be used on a loaded round.
__________________
.
What are you gonna do, talk the alien to death? -- (on Sigourney Weaver's worry about Guns in Aliens)

"Safety is something that happens between your ears, not something you hold in your hands."

"I carry a small gun to compensate for my huge Blue press."
.
woolleyworm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2012, 07:16 PM   #10
Clipper
V.I.P. Member
 
Clipper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Amarillo, TX
Posts: 382
Default Re: ??? Case Sizing ???

ALPO is correct (as usual) I had the same problem, but the LFCD corrected my problems. I also use the 9mm cylinder from my Ruger Blackhawk as a sizing check. If it fits there, my rounds are good in any gun I own.

I had a similar problem with a couple hundred .45 ACP rounds that needed TLC to chamber. I followed Campinjosh's procedure, pulled the bullets, dumped the powder, ran them thru the sizing die with the decapper pin removed. Gunpowder makes good fertilizer, that spent powder went on my Hydrangias.
Clipper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2012, 03:44 AM   #11
Ron01013
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: MA.
Posts: 19
Default Re: ??? Case Sizing ???

ALPO,
Thanks to all,
the thought of pulling those rounds was not a good one..
Glad to know there is a safe way out of this...
Ron
Ron01013 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2012, 06:48 AM   #12
steve4102
Former Guest
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Minnesota
Contributor
Posts: 2,760
Default Re: ??? Case Sizing ???

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron01013 View Post
Wooleyworm,
These are fully loaded and primed bullets, so thanks for the info...
I'll break them apart and re-size them. I now have a Lee turret Press so I should be ok
Thanks again everyone,
Ron
Please don't take this the wrong way as I'm not trying to be a smart ass. In the future it would be easier to help and less confusing if you used the proper terminology. Guessing what you mean can be dangerous. A bullet is the lead/jacketed projectile that is propelled by the firearm. Calling a loaded round a bullet may get you bad advice.
steve4102 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2012, 02:09 PM   #13
Ron01013
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: MA.
Posts: 19
Default Re: ??? Case Sizing ???

Thanks Steve,
Appreciate you getting back to me with good advice
Ron
Ron01013 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:04 AM.

STILL SEARCHING FOR SOMETHING? TRY THE TFF "GOOGLE" SEARCH ENGINE BELOW!
Google

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright ©2002 - 2013, TheFirearmsForum.Com