The next "crisis"?

[bcj1755]

Has anyone noticed that all of a sudden, airport security seems to be Obama's new "crisis"? First we have that scumbag pantybomber from Christmas Day, then the honey bottles raising alarms at an airport, then some guy claiming to be Palestinian causing problems on a flight to Detroit, now some guy walking through security at Newark Airport. Gee, it seems very coincidental that all of a sudden the problems with airport security come all at once.

Well, on a plus side, Barry finally manned up and took responcibility for something But I'm still waiting to find out how all this is Bush's fault

And as a side note about a previous "crisis," I heard today that the feds might be cancelling previous orders for H1N1 vaccine. So I guess the swine flu wasn't the deadly, earth shattering plauge that we were told it would be

[pinecone70]

A few days ago at Minneapolis/St. Paul there was a bomb alert by the security dogs, evacuation and lock down ensued. Turns out the airport's own bag alerted the dogs.

[mrkirker]

The current administration lurches from 'crisis' to 'crisis', only offering an explanation or reprimand when the public opinion has been tasted.

It is not enough that someone accepts responsibility for these events, someone must begin corrective actions so that a repeat event is not forthcomming.

[graehaven]

Just more incremental control.

Look for a false flag event this year though, to grab even more control. Probably a successful "terrorist" event on our own soil again.

[walien]

The media you watch could be portraying things as a crisis. I travel a lot and I don't see how the Christmas bombing is a crisis. There were some serious lapses in security, similar to those that let 911 happen, and they're being taken seriously. I don't see how it's a crisis.

I'm sure if you asked the administration, they'd be happy to not have been facing the financial crisis, the mortgage crisis and Iraq when they took office. Their lives would have been much, much, much easier.

[graehaven]

Originally Posted by walien

I'm sure if you asked the administration, they'd be happy to not have been facing the financial crisis, the mortgage crisis and Iraq when they took office. Their lives would have been much, much, much easier.

The administration doesn't care what we think, and have illustrated that repeatedly.

Our fearful leader made the financial crisis WORSE, he made the mortgage crisis WORSE, and he's making the war WORSE, with total lack of indecision. He campaigned on WANTING to be president because HE could SOLVE the problems, yet all he does is whine about "previous admin." PATHETIC.

The ONLY crisis is that the government is exerting more and more control every week. And THAT should concern everyone.

[bcj1755]

Originally Posted by walien

The media you watch could be portraying things as a crisis. I travel a lot and I don't see how the Christmas bombing is a crisis. There were some serious lapses in security, similar to those that let 911 happen, and they're being taken seriously. I don't see how it's a crisis.

I'm sure if you asked the administration, they'd be happy to not have been facing the financial crisis, the mortgage crisis and Iraq when they took office. Their lives would have been much, much, much easier.

That's right, I forgot, Obama had all this woe when he took office. It's all Bush's fault Once again, you completely missed the point of a post. I wasn't saying that is is a crisis, I was saying that I find it mighty coincidental that after the pantybomber's failed attack, all of a sudden we have all of these lapses in airport security where there were none before. Mighty coincidental. And I don't believe in coincidence. But of course, in your eyes, Obama does no wrong

Originally Posted by graehaven

The administration doesn't care what we think, and have illustrated that repeatedly.

Our fearful leader made the financial crisis WORSE, he made the mortgage crisis WORSE, and he's making the war WORSE, with total lack of indecision. He campaigned on WANTING to be president because HE could SOLVE the problems, yet all he does is whine about "previous admin." PATHETIC.

The ONLY crisis is that the government is exerting more and more control every week. And THAT should concern everyone.

Exactly.

[walien]

He campaigned on WANTING to be president because HE could SOLVE the problems, yet all he does is whine about "previous admin." PATHETIC.

He did much the same as the last administration in pretty much all three areas. That would be a stronger criticism of how he campaigned I would think. Also, might actually explaining why you think he made those things work be helpful to the thread?

[graehaven]

Originally Posted by walien

He did much the same as the last administration in pretty much all three areas. That would be a stronger criticism of how he campaigned I would think. Also, might actually explaining why you think he made those things work be helpful to the thread?

Ummm, no, because that was not the original context of the thread - to which I did respond in my first post. So, see above for that.

If you're going to campaign on something - then you'd better DO it. And he hasn't - not anything. He's very effectively allowed us to be spent into oblivion, and he's very effective at NOT taking responsibility for anything.

No, the last administration is not blameless. I see them as both as being two sides to one coin. Unfortunately, the current president is taking us down a horrific path at breakneck speed, where, if McCain had been elected, we would be going down the same path, just slower.

[red14]

Much slower.

And our president would not have been on a world apology tour. For all his faults, McCain loves his country.

I have not heard Obamalamadingdong say one positive word about our country. I have not heard him say God Bless America, one time.

I live my country, does Barry?

[ponycar17]

Originally Posted by walien

...I'm sure if you asked the administration, they'd be happy to not have been facing the financial crisis, the mortgage crisis and Iraq when they took office. Their lives would have been much, much, much easier.

I differ in opinion. The current administration, particularly the (p)resident helped bring about the mortgage and financial crisis from his involvement in defending minorities in 1994 who could not secure a mortgage given traditional guidelines such as simple things like credit scores, income figures, etc... You know, the things that traditionally indicate successful repayment of loans.

That action bred the practices of big mortgage banks that turned a turd into caviar and led to the repackaging of mortgages as marketable securities, with banks fully knowing that a percentage of mortgages would default based on the real world statistics. Banks couldn't operate by offering loans at face value to people who couldn't repay them. They HAD to be repackaged and sold to eliminate liabilities.

From Americanthinker.com,

Represented by Obama and others, Plaintiffs filed a class action lawsuit alleging that Citibank had "intentionally discriminated against the Plaintiffs on the basis of race with respect to a credit transaction," calling their action "racial discrimination and discriminatory redlining practices."

From http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/...in_the_mo.html

HE helped bring about this crisis! HE thrives on crisis! Diversion is ALWAYS your best offensive tactic!...

Need I remind you of this little goodie from Rahm Emanuel shortly after election day in November of 2008?...

"You never want a serious crisis to go to waste.... And what I mean by that is it's an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before..."
-Rahm Emanuel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yeA_kHHLow

Hell, Emanuel sat on the board of Freddie Mac as they were cooking the books between 2000 and 2002. This is the biggest damn scam EVER perpetrated upon the American people. It's amazing in scale, complexity, diversion of blame and impact on the WORLD economy. THEY want US to FAIL! There's no doubt that failure and crisis breeds an opportunity for action.

Give me a damn break! It's obvious that this student of Alinsky as (p)resident thrives on opportunity to take away liberties on the path of a liberal, Marxist agenda.

Quoting Alinsky...

"The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself."

Don't let facts fog your rose colored glasses.

NOTE: While I apologize for my harsh use of language, I feel that it's necessary given the subject at hand...

[Terry_P]

Ponycar:

Great summary of how Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Obozo and the gang coerced Freddy into needing a huge bailout and then blamed Bush.

It is now coming out that Timmy Turbo Tax Geithner was involved in both urging and covering up the mis-use of TARP monies by AIG. The whole bunch of them stink like a Chicago politican at an ethic investigation hearing in August. Here's the link:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_414449.html

[dge479]

the only real "crisis" is this moron is the POTUS.

[Bobitis]

It's all about diverting the attention from the health care takeover.

The fed doesn't think anyone should be able to make a profit.
Car makers, DR.s, banks, farmers, you or me. They think all the excess money belongs to them. They won't be happy until every man, woman, and child in this country is under thier control. Then they can provide a minimum source of keeping us alive. This in turn guarantees their maximum control.

What better way to do this than forced fed health care?

I heard the other day on the radio that they were going to allow 1 hour of televised covereage of the debate (After C-span called them on the carpet).

How gracious.

Now they can say, "See? The POTUS didn't lie. The process is transparent".

If health care passes, we will see a full scale war on banning firearm ownership.

I'm waiting for them to claim victory in the swine flu debacle.
"Due to governments timely intervention, a global pandemic has been averted. This is just one thing that government control of health care can accomplish". And the sheeple will eat it up.

We will have a new crisis in 3 weeks.

[millwright]

The real "crisis" was Joan Rivers couldn't fly home....... >MW

[TheGunClinger]

Originally Posted by walien

The media you watch could be portraying things as a crisis. I travel a lot and I don't see how the Christmas bombing is a crisis. There were some serious lapses in security, similar to those that let 911 happen, and they're being taken seriously. I don't see how it's a crisis.

I'm sure if you asked the administration, they'd be happy to not have been facing the financial crisis, the mortgage crisis and Iraq when they took office. Their lives would have been much, much, much easier.

I bet if you were sitting next to that pric* you'd be thinking a bit different about it being a crisis. It is usually less of an important event to those who wernt there experiencing what those passengers of that flight went through.

[ampaterry]

If we are going to continue the prohibition against profiling, the only way to make the flights truly safe is to do a complete strip search and body cavity search of each passenger, and tow the luggage behind the plane on a VERY long cable.

On the plus side, I have seen a picture of the full body scanner. The gal being scanned appeared completely nude. That would mean that ticket prices would get cheaper because the airport payroll would decrease; security people would be unpaid volunteers.

I am VERY glad I quit flying years ago when the airline managed to lose the plane my wife was on, scaring the CRUD out of me to the point that I vowed to never trust my life to an airline again.
I do hate it though, because I LOVED to fly - -

[Double D]

To say that this wasnt a crisis is wrong. Had it worked, 300 people would be dead right now and a jet blown to pieces. If your wife or children were sitting next to this guy, it would have been a crisis. Barry was FORCED to respond to this the way he did. Otherwise he would probably still not have said a word. It is almost totally obamas fault. He has weakened this country and its security and has given them confidence. He needs to take the blame. Even if he was forced to do so. His words are nothing more than empty words that mean nothing.

[graehaven]

Security needs to be done by the Airline companies, modeled after the Israelis at EL AL.

Most Americans wouldn't put up with it, hence, a big cut back on the number of people flying - which might not be a bad thing.

The FED government should NOT be involved at all.

They have 3 jobs: (1) Provide for the common defense of the nation (secure our borders). FAIL on that. (2) Coin actual gold and silver money - not paper. FAIL on that. (3) Facilitate interstate commerce (and not get their fingers in it or regulate it to death). FAIL on that!

The Federal government cannot even do the constitutionally allowed jobs it has been given - but is instead focused on all kinds of control oriented, non-constitutional programs - a big agenda to run YOUR life.

[red14]

[QUOTE=Double D;575666]To say that this wasnt a crisis is wrong. Had it worked, 300 people would be dead right now and a jet blown to pieces. If your wife or children were sitting next to this guy, it would have been a crisis. Barry was FORCED to respond to this the way he did. Otherwise he would probably still not have said a word. It is almost totally obamas fault. He has weakened this country and its security and has given them confidence. He needs to take the blame. Even if he was forced to do so. His words are nothing, empty words that mean nothing.[/QUOTE]

True, all true!

[graehaven]

Folks, the story is NOT the guy that got on the plane with the blow up undies.

The story is the mystery GUY IN THE SUIT who said he should be allowed on the plane without a passport - since he does it all the time. Who is that guy?!?!?!?!?!?!!!! That's the story. As usual, no media whatsoever is investigating that little tidbit.

Hmmmmmmmm, wonder why.



Hint: These "terrorists" are NOT gonna pull anything off without inside help. It's ALL been allowed. Then, all the fearful sheeple are easy to convince to give up more freedom in exchange for supposed security.

Tell you what -- I'm sure you'll feel most secure in the boxcar that takes you to a FEMA camp near you for, surprise, re-education / indoctrination or, [GASP], execution. En masse.

IT is coming. Stop living in denial.

[mrkirker]

[QUOTE=red14;575671]

Originally Posted by Double D

To say that this wasnt a crisis is wrong. Had it worked, 300 people would be dead right now and a jet blown to pieces. If your wife or children were sitting next to this guy, it would have been a crisis. Barry was FORCED to respond to this the way he did. Otherwise he would probably still not have said a word. It is almost totally obamas fault. He has weakened this country and its security and has given them confidence. He needs to take the blame. Even if he was forced to do so. His words are nothing, empty words that mean nothing.[/QUOTE]

True, all true!

The Words of ANY Politician are Written Upon the Wind. . .

[ponycar17]

Originally Posted by Terry_P

Ponycar:

Great summary of how Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Obozo and the gang coerced Freddy into needing a huge bailout and then blamed Bush.

It is now coming out that Timmy Turbo Tax Geithner was involved in both urging and covering up the mis-use of TARP monies by AIG. The whole bunch of them stink like a Chicago politican at an ethic investigation hearing in August. Here's the link:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_414449.html

I think that AIG was used as a conduit for offshore banks, and particularly the Swiss banks who have long been known for their secrecy. Now UBS, the Swiss bank insured by AIG who got the most out of the bailout funds is singing to the Feds about potential American tax evaders who use their banking system. Ironic, huh?...

The Swiss Bank, UBS recently released a list of 4500 names and other critical information of account holders which are suspected of engaging in US Tax Evasion. This is unprecedented, as Swiss banks have traditionally kept all information regarding account holders secret. Some ask why?... I have a theory.

When AIG was bailed out in 2008 some asked why... Why was AIG, an insurance company bailed out when a bank such as Lehman Brothers was not? Some speculated that AIG backed Congressional retirement funds. I'm not sure about that, although it can't be ruled out....

What I do know is that UBS did insure the Swiss Bank, UBS. As part of the massive bailout, the country of Sweden received a total of $5.4 Billion USD (US Dollars) through the UBS funnel. Of that 5.4 Billion USD, UBS got 5.0 Billion USD through AIG.

See http://www.businessweek.com/the_thre..._and_fren.html

So, it's payback time... Why would the Swiss UBS bank flex their rules now? Well, you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours...

This all wreaks of coercion and outright manipulation of the global financial markets. We all know it's happening but I think the scale is more than anyone imagined...

From http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/showthread.php?t=65734

This crisis does have more to do with money than the taking of our rights on surface value. Sure, our rights are getting ripped from our hands but there's money behind the whole thing. Why else would George Soros, a billionaire and huge supporter of Obama have said this if crisis did not breed his success?....

'I'm having a very good crisis,' says Soros as hedge fund managers make billions off recession...

The rest of the story along with Obama's connections to Soros can be read in an older thread I posted a while back citing two separate articles... http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/showthread.php?t=60697

Yes, the collapse of the middle class and indeed our American prosperity is at stake to this administration... There are billions to be made in emerging markets, and you don't create emerging markets without either creating tremendous demand for a good or service or by destroying existing markets. Wanna guess which strategy is being employed today?...