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Old 10-31-2010, 04:47 PM   #1
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Default Can someone explain this to me ? have you all been drafted yet ?

http://www.thomas.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.5741:

111th CONGRESS
2d Session

H. R. 5741
To require all persons in the United States between the ages of 18 and 42 to perform national service, either as a member of the uniformed services or in civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, to authorize the induction of persons in the uniformed services during wartime to meet end-strength requirements of the uniformed services, and for other purposes.


IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
July 15, 2010

Mr. RANGEL introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Armed Services

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Old 10-31-2010, 05:05 PM   #2
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Now we have a great place for those whom must serve.

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Obama Just Got His Private Reserve Army


Remember this speech that Barack Obama gave back in 2008 eluding to the fact that he wanted a civilian army force that doesn't swear to uphold the Constitution:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXvLW...layer_embedded


Well, it looks like Obama has gotten his way…and no one seems to have noticed. It is buried in the Senate revisions to the health care bill.
Subtitle C–Increasing the Supply of the Health Care Workforce
Sec. 5201. Federally supported student loan funds.
Sec. 5202. Nursing student loan program.
Sec. 5203. Health care workforce loan repayment programs.
Sec. 5204. Public health workforce recruitment and retention programs.
Sec. 5205. Allied health workforce recruitment and retention programs.
Sec. 5206. Grants for State and local programs.
Sec. 5207. Funding for National Health Service Corps.
Sec. 5208. Nurse-managed health clinics.
Sec. 5209. Elimination of cap on commissioned corps.
Sec. 5210. Establishing a Ready Reserve Corps.
Subtitle D–Enhancing Health Care Workforce Education and Training
See the Patient Protection Affordable Care Act, page 1312:

SEC. 5210. ESTABLISHING A READY RESERVE CORPS.

Section 203 of the Public Health Service Act (42 U.S.C. 204) is amended to read as follows:

SEC. 203. COMMISSIONED CORPS AND READY RESERVE CORPS.
(a) ESTABLISHMENT–

(1) IN GENERAL.–here shall be in the Service a commissioned Regular Corps and a Ready Reserve Corps for service in time of national emergency.

(2) REQUIREMENT.–All commissioned officers shall be citizens of the United States and shall be appointed without regard to the civil-service laws and compensated without regard to the Classification Act 2 of 1923, as amended.

(3) APPOINTMENT.–Commissioned officers of the Ready Reserve Corps shall be appointed by the President and commissioned officers of the Regular Corps shall be appointed by the President with the advice and consent of the Senate.

(4) ACTIVE DUTY.–Commissioned officers of the Ready Reserve Corps shall at all times be subject to call to active duty by the Surgeon General, including active duty for the purpose of training.

(5) WARRANT OFFICERS.–Warrant officers may be appointed to the Service for the purpose of providing support to the health and delivery systems maintained by the Service and any warrant officer appointed to the Service shall be considered for purposes of this Act and title 37, United States Code, to be a commissioned officer within the Commissioned Corps of the Service.

(b) ASSIMILATING RESERVE CORP OFFICERS INTO THE REGULAR CORPS.—Effective on the date of enactment of the Affordable Health Choices Act, all individuals classified as officers in the Reserve Corps under this section (as such section existed on the day before the date of enactment of such Act) and serving on active duty shall be deemed to be commissioned officers of the Regular Corps.
[Note here that those personally appointed by BO -- without advice and consent of the Senate -- automatically become a part of the Regular Corps. Ed.]

(c) PURPOSE AND USE OF READY RESERVE.–

(1) PURPOSE.–The purpose of the Ready Reserve Corps is to fulfill the need to have additional Commissioned Corps personnel available on short notice (similar to the uniformed service’s reserve program) to assist regular Commissioned Corps personnel to meet both routine public health and emergency response missions.

(2) USES.–The Ready Reserve Corps shall–

(A) participate in routine training to meet the general and specific needs of the Commissioned Corps;
(B) be available and ready for involuntary calls to active duty during national emergencies and public health crises, similar to the uniformed service reserve personnel;
(C) be available for backfilling critical positions left vacant during deployment of active duty Commissioned Corps members, as well as for deployment to respond to public health emergencies, both foreign and domestic; and
(D) be available for service assignment in isolated, hardship, and medically underserved communities (as defined in section 399SS) to improve access to health services.
(d) FUNDING.—For the purpose of carrying out the duties and responsibilities of the Commissioned Corps under this section, there are authorized to be appropriated such sums as may be necessary to the Office of the Surgeon General for each of fiscal years 2010 through 2014. Funds appropriated under this subsection shall be used for recruitment and training of Commissioned Corps Officers.

I bet no one thought President Obama was creating another army with health care, but it looks like it has happened.
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Old 10-31-2010, 05:08 PM   #3
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They were trying to do something like a draft awhile ago where everybody had to perform so and so amount of service. I don't think it ever went through though.

I know once you're 18, you have to register for the Selective Service Act.

I don't think I would volunteer for the military. If there was a draft and my number was selected, I'd do as I was asked.
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Old 10-31-2010, 07:52 PM   #4
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I wish I was under 42 so I could burn my draft card. The whole thing is absurd.
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Old 12-04-2011, 10:01 PM   #5
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Jack, anyone can be called into service, the walking wounded will be called last. I'm not
signing up for B.S. and I damned sure not recruiting. If an enemy comes to my area of the country I'll put them down. In service or not. We just go back to frontier law. I aint scared.
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Old 12-04-2011, 10:22 PM   #6
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Same here mate , in fact the sooner it starts the better

better me fighting than my grand kids , though the oldest one just graduated from .22 lr to .223 last weekend and in a few weeks we'll go some 7.62 short ..
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i wouldn't mind serving in the military... IF they reinstated DADT, or out and out made queers and other deviants illegal in the military.

it's funny, that at almost this time last century that many American young men were being imprisoned for refusing to fight because they believed killing was wrong or they were afraid. but here i am, unafraid to die for my country(theoretically, anyway), and more than willing to kill some evil sonsabitches, but i won't join the military because of their lack of morals

odd, the difference that one century can make
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Old 12-05-2011, 02:36 AM   #8
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Now I'm confuzed, do they want us to have guns or not!
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Old 12-05-2011, 03:19 AM   #9
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Now I'm confuzed, do they want us to have guns or not!
in the military you only have a weapon when authorized, and can only use it for the authorized purpose and when you are authorized to do so, and self defense is not generally an authorized purpose. also, personal weapons are forbidden on most military bases.
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Old 12-05-2011, 07:09 AM   #10
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Isn't the Supreme Court to hold a hearing on the Health Care Bill, I believe this month? If it is thrown out as un-constitutional, then it's all gone. If not, we are in deep trouble! Still, I think that everyone in America should have to serve at least two years in the military. Instill a little National pride in our young folks.
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Old 12-05-2011, 03:30 PM   #11
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The court is going to hold the hearing in March. Supposed to have a response in July. My bet, it'll pass. If any judge leaves before then, it's a no brain'er.
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