Mauser-Werke HSc - The Firearms Forum

codydog · 10-04-2010, 07:17 PM

This does not sound like all the others that have posted. I have to say a pictures is really worth a 1000 words. I do not see serial number unless the 4779 of 5000 is it. So I am very curious to the story and value.

Thanks!

3/2 STA SS · 10-04-2010, 07:37 PM

remake of WW2 pistol. especially with #### 0f 5000.

codydog · 10-05-2010, 10:47 AM

Is there a way to contact a particular member? Danny who responded to this thread:

http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/showthread.php?t=82396

Appears to know these guns and I would love to get him to respond to mine. I also posted a message on that thread for him.

Thanks

wonderwhippet · 10-05-2010, 06:30 PM

Your postwar HSc has no particular collector value. Unfortunately, Mauser lowered the manufacturing standards on these pistols after the war, and there have been many reports of poor functiioning. At the many gun shows I attend I see them for sale at prices ranging from $250 to $375.

Jim K · 10-05-2010, 08:40 PM

The main problem was simply that the gun was originally designed for 7.65mm (.32 ACP) and didn't take well to the 9mm Kurz (.380 ACP) needed to meet U.S. import requirements after 1968. That conversion is not always easy, and usually involves more than just drilling a bigger hole in the barrel.

See: http://www.mauserguns.com/gungalleryModelHSC.asp

for more info than I can give here on the HSc.

Jim

denny 714 · 10-15-2010, 10:26 AM

Hello,
You have what's called an Amerincan Eagle Edition of the Mauser Hsc Pistol (as indicated by the Eagle emblem near the front of the right side of the slide). It is chambered for the 9 m/m short or 380 acp. It is a limited edition piece there will be only 5000 of these ever made. I have never seen one of these American Eagle Hsc's go for less than $1000.00
Hope that was a help.

Denny

wonderwhippet · 10-15-2010, 01:18 PM

Denny, you must be confusing this Mauser with a Walther or some other gun. Here are the values right out of the current Blue Book:

HSc Post-WWII Mfg. One of Five Thousand Edition
- American Eagle edition (marked on gun), 5,000 total mfg. (serial numbered 1-5000).

Grading 100% 98% 95% 90% 80% 70% 60%
$450 $400 $350 $300 $240 $210 $180

Considering their reputation, I think they made 5000 too many of these.

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codydog · 10-15-2010, 05:47 PM

Guys, thanks for the input. Now that I know what it is, I was able to do some research and found out on some auction sites online the gun has been selling for over $300 averaging about $400 and maxing out at $600. So a pretty narrow range.

denny 714 · 10-15-2010, 06:02 PM

Wonder,
I am really amazed that this is rated from the blue book at 100% for $450.00. I don't have one (a blue book) but on gun auctions I have never seen American Eagle Hsc's for less than a grand, go figure...But I have noticed on those same auctions that a war time Hsc without any relivant markings are $375.00 to $425.00...The eagle over the M on the front grip strap is $1300.00. But for the most part wwII pistols (Hsc) are cheap...........I would have thought Mauser-werke is a very good manufacturer of guns.

Thanks for the Info - Wonder

Denny

Jim K · 10-15-2010, 07:17 PM

Collector values are not really tied to the general quality of a manufacturer's products, though that is one factor. Besides, Mauser's pistols never were as solid, well designed and durable as their bolt rifles.

Auction prices are one indication of general value, but all that is needed to jump prices is two people with money competing for the same item. In spite of the limited production, the value on those x of 5000 guns is not that high, partly because they have no historical value and not a lot of collector interest. Obviously, some folks will pay over a grand, but I think one priced that at a gun show would sit a while.

Jim

10-04-2010, 07:17 PM	#1
codydog Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 43	Mauser-Werke HSc This does not sound like all the others that have posted. I have to say a pictures is really worth a 1000 words. I do not see serial number unless the 4779 of 5000 is it. So I am very curious to the story and value. Thanks! Attached Images -->

10-04-2010, 07:37 PM	#2
3/2 STA SS Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Tampa Bay Area, FL Posts: 1,437	Re: Mauser-Werke HSc remake of WW2 pistol. especially with #### 0f 5000.

10-05-2010, 10:47 AM	#3
codydog Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 43	Re: Mauser-Werke HSc Is there a way to contact a particular member? Danny who responded to this thread: http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/showthread.php?t=82396 Appears to know these guns and I would love to get him to respond to mine. I also posted a message on that thread for him. Thanks

10-05-2010, 06:30 PM	#4
wonderwhippet Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,584	Re: Mauser-Werke HSc Your postwar HSc has no particular collector value. Unfortunately, Mauser lowered the manufacturing standards on these pistols after the war, and there have been many reports of poor functiioning. At the many gun shows I attend I see them for sale at prices ranging from $250 to $375.

10-05-2010, 08:40 PM	#5
Jim K Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 6,408	Re: Mauser-Werke HSc The main problem was simply that the gun was originally designed for 7.65mm (.32 ACP) and didn't take well to the 9mm Kurz (.380 ACP) needed to meet U.S. import requirements after 1968. That conversion is not always easy, and usually involves more than just drilling a bigger hole in the barrel. See: http://www.mauserguns.com/gungalleryModelHSC.asp for more info than I can give here on the HSc. Jim

10-15-2010, 10:26 AM	#6
denny 714 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 224	Re: Mauser-Werke HSc Hello, You have what's called an Amerincan Eagle Edition of the Mauser Hsc Pistol (as indicated by the Eagle emblem near the front of the right side of the slide). It is chambered for the 9 m/m short or 380 acp. It is a limited edition piece there will be only 5000 of these ever made. I have never seen one of these American Eagle Hsc's go for less than $1000.00 Hope that was a help. Denny

10-15-2010, 01:18 PM	#7
wonderwhippet Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,584	Re: Mauser-Werke HSc Denny, you must be confusing this Mauser with a Walther or some other gun. Here are the values right out of the current Blue Book: HSc Post-WWII Mfg. One of Five Thousand Edition - American Eagle edition (marked on gun), 5,000 total mfg. (serial numbered 1-5000). Grading 100% 98% 95% 90% 80% 70% 60% $450 $400 $350 $300 $240 $210 $180 Considering their reputation, I think they made 5000 too many of these. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Last edited by wonderwhippet; 10-15-2010 at 01:19 PM..

10-15-2010, 05:47 PM	#8
codydog Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 43	Re: Mauser-Werke HSc Guys, thanks for the input. Now that I know what it is, I was able to do some research and found out on some auction sites online the gun has been selling for over $300 averaging about $400 and maxing out at $600. So a pretty narrow range.

10-15-2010, 06:02 PM	#9
denny 714 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 224	Re: Mauser-Werke HSc Wonder, I am really amazed that this is rated from the blue book at 100% for $450.00. I don't have one (a blue book) but on gun auctions I have never seen American Eagle Hsc's for less than a grand, go figure...But I have noticed on those same auctions that a war time Hsc without any relivant markings are $375.00 to $425.00...The eagle over the M on the front grip strap is $1300.00. But for the most part wwII pistols (Hsc) are cheap...........I would have thought Mauser-werke is a very good manufacturer of guns. Thanks for the Info - Wonder Denny Last edited by denny 714; 10-15-2010 at 06:17 PM..

10-15-2010, 07:17 PM	#10
Jim K Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 6,408	Re: Mauser-Werke HSc Collector values are not really tied to the general quality of a manufacturer's products, though that is one factor. Besides, Mauser's pistols never were as solid, well designed and durable as their bolt rifles. Auction prices are one indication of general value, but all that is needed to jump prices is two people with money competing for the same item. In spite of the limited production, the value on those x of 5000 guns is not that high, partly because they have no historical value and not a lot of collector interest. Obviously, some folks will pay over a grand, but I think one priced that at a gun show would sit a while. Jim