guy in New Hampshire arrested for stopping burgler with gun - The Firearms Forum

Dennis C · 02-21-2012, 11:08 PM

Article on Fox....

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/02/21...-near-burglar/

marlin795 · 02-21-2012, 11:15 PM

My lord our country is screwed so badly.

time2shoot · 02-21-2012, 11:16 PM

Just makes you mad as ####!

cutter · 02-21-2012, 11:16 PM

Don't know what to say except WTF!! I am glad I live where I do!

sctt77 · 02-22-2012, 12:00 AM

thats bull

ryan42 · 02-22-2012, 12:38 AM

If they dont drop the charges we oughta take up a collection for him,Ill put in the first $100

micq99 · 02-22-2012, 12:47 AM

I also would help with the collection

yetiman · 02-22-2012, 05:43 AM

Hopefully they will do the right thing, sounds like they are open to the idea....

Double D · 02-22-2012, 06:59 AM

The NRA has lawyers that will help this guy fight this crap. The entire pro gun nation should be outraged and form a huge protest in his name and protest this kind of liberal nonsense. This is the same type of crap that is going on in th UK right now and if we dont stand up and do something about it now it will spread to other states. Someone in that state needs to start a protest!!

fleetwood1976 · 02-22-2012, 04:20 PM

unreal.

dbcooper · 02-22-2012, 04:25 PM

here is what caught my attention more down int he article

"Fleming's collection of seven rifles and a .38-caliber handgun were seized by police"

under what authority did they do that? he hasn't been convicted of anything yet.

why did they take his other guns??

The NRA and GOA had better step up and start helping guys like this.
These types of stories are popping up every week now it seems.

jce07a · 02-22-2012, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dbcooper

here is what caught my attention more down int he article

"Fleming's collection of seven rifles and a .38-caliber handgun were seized by police"

under what authority did they do that? he hasn't been convicted of anything yet.

why did they take his other guns??

The NRA and GOA had better step up and start helping guys like this.
These types of stories are popping up every week now it seems.

they have no grounds to seize his other guns...even as evidence. because they're not the ones used in the incident.

flintlock · 02-22-2012, 04:52 PM

Did NY annex NH without telling anyone? Sounds like the man is getting a raw deal.

mintaka · 02-22-2012, 05:30 PM

I'm as pro gun as the next guy...when I took my ccw class we were told..you can't shoot to wound, and can't fire warning shots...there has to be a threat of death or bodily harm...I took this class in the most gun liberal state in maybe the world...Arizona...if this guys supposed warning shot bounced off something and went thru a window and hityour kid, you would go crazy...
The laws are the laws and right or wrong we have to obey them or change them..or else we may loose our precious right to posess...

Rocketman1 · 02-22-2012, 05:36 PM

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"This homeowner fired at the ground, from all accounts, in a safe direction and held a burglar for police and did things correctly," Dean told FoxNews.com. "The fact that this man would be charged is an outrage. Burglars in New Hampshire must know it's open season, since homeowners cannot defend themselves, as evidenced by this case. This is charging the victim."

There is no way this thing will stick. I can't believe they took all his guns!

geds · 02-22-2012, 09:06 PM

All I can say is New England liberal Yankees.....

Who elects these idiots?!

millwright · 02-22-2012, 09:20 PM

I'll add ! >MW

hogger129 · 02-22-2012, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mintaka

I'm as pro gun as the next guy...when I took my ccw class we were told..you can't shoot to wound, and can't fire warning shots...there has to be a threat of death or bodily harm...I took this class in the most gun liberal state in maybe the world...Arizona...if this guys supposed warning shot bounced off something and went thru a window and hityour kid, you would go crazy...
The laws are the laws and right or wrong we have to obey them or change them..or else we may loose our precious right to posess...

Within his own property, acting in self defense to stop a home invader though?

hogger129 · 02-22-2012, 10:59 PM

I'll help donate to his cause if we take up a collection. If we allow liberals to do this stuff to people, sooner or later this will happen to one of us.

norahc · 02-22-2012, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by hogger129

Within his own property, acting in self defense to stop a home invader though?

From the article

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A New Hampshire man who fired his handgun into the ground to scare an alleged burglar he caught crawling out of a neighbor's window is now facing a felony charge...

He wasn't protecting his own property, he was protecting a neighbors.

Silencer · 02-22-2012, 11:54 PM

Somebody forget to tell these cops that laws are not created to be enforced. They are to protect the innocent. This guy did NOTHING wrong. Some cops are just too stupid to have their jobs.

steve4102 · 02-23-2012, 12:02 AM

You guys are looking at this the wrong way. He was not protecting himself or his property, he was conducting a "citizens arrest". No personal protection, CCW laws should apply, only what a citizen can and cannot do when conducting an arrest.

They took all of his guns because he was charged with a felony. Felons cannot own or posses firearms.

norahc · 02-23-2012, 12:16 AM

http://articles.boston.com/2012-02-2...conduct-charge

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Fleming says he knows he broke the law, and might handle things differently next time. He says he should have called police.

gun runner · 02-23-2012, 12:43 AM

Yeah I said on this forum I believe, cant remember that CHL's are worthless because everytime you want to use your weapon the law has some charge to give to you but even though go figure this has nothing to do with a public place, for crying out loud at the top of my lungs this was on his neighbors property.He was only protecting his neighbor. This is the most craziest story Ive heard in about a year. Wrong Wrong Wrong what the law did to the guy protecting his neighbor which could of turned to be bad is wrong *Shaking my DAMN head!!!*

68c15 · 02-23-2012, 05:46 AM

I wonder if the cops were thinking "arrest them all, let the courts sort it out"?

I might add that in light of situations such as this, I would do the exact same thing without hesitation.

02-21-2012, 11:08 PM	#1
Dennis C Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: South Dakota Posts: 789	guy in New Hampshire arrested for stopping burgler with gun Article on Fox.... http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/02/21...-near-burglar/ __________________ "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms. . . disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. . . Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." - Thomas Jefferson -->

02-21-2012, 11:15 PM	#2
marlin795 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Calvary Chapel Bible College; Murrieta,CA Posts: 755	Re: guy in New Hampshire arrested for stopping burgler with gun My lord our country is screwed so badly. __________________ Native born Californian, adopted by the Great State Of Texas! PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN!!!

02-21-2012, 11:16 PM	#3
time2shoot Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Brandon SD Contributor Posts: 2,600	Re: guy in New Hampshire arrested for stopping burgler with gun Just makes you mad as ####! __________________ I AM A VETERAN MY OATH OF ENLISTMENT HAS NO EXPIRATION DATE!

02-21-2012, 11:16 PM	#4
cutter Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 630	Re: guy in New Hampshire arrested for stopping burgler with gun Don't know what to say except WTF!! I am glad I live where I do!

02-22-2012, 12:00 AM	#5
sctt77 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: wash pa Posts: 73	Re: guy in New Hampshire arrested for stopping burgler with gun thats bull

02-22-2012, 12:38 AM	#6
ryan42 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: marion indiana Contributor Posts: 1,549	Re: guy in New Hampshire arrested for stopping burgler with gun If they dont drop the charges we oughta take up a collection for him,Ill put in the first $100

02-22-2012, 12:47 AM	#7
micq99 Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Salt Lake and Phoenix Posts: 7	Re: guy in New Hampshire arrested for stopping burgler with gun I also would help with the collection

02-22-2012, 05:43 AM	#8
yetiman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Martin, Tn Contributor Posts: 501	Re: guy in New Hampshire arrested for stopping burgler with gun Hopefully they will do the right thing, sounds like they are open to the idea....

02-22-2012, 06:59 AM	#9
Double D TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: North Florida Contributor Posts: 8,062	Re: guy in New Hampshire arrested for stopping burgler with gun The NRA has lawyers that will help this guy fight this crap. The entire pro gun nation should be outraged and form a huge protest in his name and protest this kind of liberal nonsense. This is the same type of crap that is going on in th UK right now and if we dont stand up and do something about it now it will spread to other states. Someone in that state needs to start a protest!! __________________ I own a bunch of scary guns. You want em? Come and take em..... Liberalism is a serious, non curable, mental disorder... NRA LIFE MEMBER Oath Keepers Member NRA Certified Instructor 30 Yr CC permit holder.

02-22-2012, 04:20 PM	#10
fleetwood1976 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Southern Indiana Contributor Posts: 1,333	Re: guy in New Hampshire arrested for stopping burgler with gun unreal.

02-22-2012, 04:25 PM	#11
dbcooper Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Texas Contributor Posts: 668	Re: guy in New Hampshire arrested for stopping burgler with gun here is what caught my attention more down int he article "Fleming's collection of seven rifles and a .38-caliber handgun were seized by police" under what authority did they do that? he hasn't been convicted of anything yet. why did they take his other guns?? The NRA and GOA had better step up and start helping guys like this. These types of stories are popping up every week now it seems.

02-22-2012, 04:52 PM	#13
flintlock Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Upstate NY Contributor Posts: 896	Re: guy in New Hampshire arrested for stopping burgler with gun Did NY annex NH without telling anyone? Sounds like the man is getting a raw deal.

02-22-2012, 05:30 PM	#14
mintaka V.I.P. Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 54	Re: guy in New Hampshire arrested for stopping burgler with gun I'm as pro gun as the next guy...when I took my ccw class we were told..you can't shoot to wound, and can't fire warning shots...there has to be a threat of death or bodily harm...I took this class in the most gun liberal state in maybe the world...Arizona...if this guys supposed warning shot bounced off something and went thru a window and hityour kid, you would go crazy... The laws are the laws and right or wrong we have to obey them or change them..or else we may loose our precious right to posess...

02-22-2012, 09:06 PM	#16
geds Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 3,706	Re: guy in New Hampshire arrested for stopping burgler with gun All I can say is New England liberal Yankees..... Who elects these idiots?!

02-22-2012, 09:20 PM	#17
millwright Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,436	Re: guy in New Hampshire arrested for stopping burgler with gun I'll add ! >MW

02-22-2012, 10:59 PM	#19
hogger129 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4,064	Re: guy in New Hampshire arrested for stopping burgler with gun I'll help donate to his cause if we take up a collection. If we allow liberals to do this stuff to people, sooner or later this will happen to one of us. __________________ Samuel Adams once said, "among the natural rights of the colonists are these: first, a right to life, secondly to liberty, thirdly to property; together with the right to defend them in the best manner they can." Last edited by hogger129; 02-22-2012 at 11:01 PM..

02-22-2012, 11:54 PM	#21
Silencer Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Southern California: Inland Empire Posts: 1,294	Re: guy in New Hampshire arrested for stopping burgler with gun Somebody forget to tell these cops that laws are not created to be enforced. They are to protect the innocent. This guy did NOTHING wrong. Some cops are just too stupid to have their jobs. __________________ War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. Skeet Shooting Game! Don't Shoot Your Eye Out!

02-23-2012, 12:02 AM	#22
steve4102 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Minnesota Contributor Posts: 2,760	Re: guy in New Hampshire arrested for stopping burgler with gun You guys are looking at this the wrong way. He was not protecting himself or his property, he was conducting a "citizens arrest". No personal protection, CCW laws should apply, only what a citizen can and cannot do when conducting an arrest. They took all of his guns because he was charged with a felony. Felons cannot own or posses firearms. Last edited by steve4102; 02-23-2012 at 12:04 AM..

02-23-2012, 12:43 AM	#24
gun runner Former Guest Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: South Texas Contributor Posts: 1,871	Re: guy in New Hampshire arrested for stopping burgler with gun Yeah I said on this forum I believe, cant remember that CHL's are worthless because everytime you want to use your weapon the law has some charge to give to you but even though go figure this has nothing to do with a public place, for crying out loud at the top of my lungs this was on his neighbors property.He was only protecting his neighbor. This is the most craziest story Ive heard in about a year. Wrong Wrong Wrong what the law did to the guy protecting his neighbor which could of turned to be bad is wrong Shaking my DAMN head!!! Last edited by gun runner; 02-23-2012 at 12:49 AM..

02-23-2012, 05:46 AM	#25
68c15 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 2,057	Re: guy in New Hampshire arrested for stopping burgler with gun I wonder if the cops were thinking "arrest them all, let the courts sort it out"? I might add that in light of situations such as this, I would do the exact same thing without hesitation.