Bayard 32 acp info? - The Firearms Forum

belercous · 12-28-2009, 10:21 PM

I have a Bayard 32 acp vest pocket pistol, s/n 1497xx. It is marked "Modele Depose", "Anciens Establissments Pieper", "Herstal-Belgium", and "Brevete s.g.d.g. Patented Sept. 8 1908." It is an unusual little gun, as I am sure you all are aware.
Does anyone know anything about these guns? When this thing was made?
Is it safe to shoot with modern ammo?
I would like to thank you for your assistance in this matter.

Bill DeShivs · 12-29-2009, 03:05 AM

It was made after 1908! They are very small guns-well made.
If it is in good shape, I see no reason you couldn't fire it.

Alpo · 12-29-2009, 09:43 AM

If it looks like this, it was made before 1930.

This version was made after 1930.

belercous · 12-29-2009, 08:02 PM

Its pre-1930. Thanks.

45Auto · 12-30-2009, 09:26 AM

After the occupation,1914, some of these were issued to the imperial German Army. The WWI Bayards have military inspection marks in place of the Belgian proof marks.

jondar · 12-30-2009, 06:09 PM

That's one neat little pocket gun. I looked at the two that are on the auction. One looks like yours, pretty good shape, the other is listed as a parts gun. $275 on the nicer one. If I weren't gun poor now I might bid on the nicer one. The parts gun is $150. Get some .32 ACP ammo and go for it.

Alpo · 12-30-2009, 07:17 PM

My book says this is the smallest 32 auto made. Of course, this book was written before Seacamp and NAA 32s. Says the recoil is quite heavy, for a 32, because of that small size.

12-28-2009, 10:21 PM	#1
belercous Former Guest Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 195	Bayard 32 acp info? I have a Bayard 32 acp vest pocket pistol, s/n 1497xx. It is marked "Modele Depose", "Anciens Establissments Pieper", "Herstal-Belgium", and "Brevete s.g.d.g. Patented Sept. 8 1908." It is an unusual little gun, as I am sure you all are aware. Does anyone know anything about these guns? When this thing was made? Is it safe to shoot with modern ammo? I would like to thank you for your assistance in this matter. -->

12-29-2009, 03:05 AM	#2
Bill DeShivs Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Contributor Posts: 1,469	Re: Bayard 32 acp info? It was made after 1908! They are very small guns-well made. If it is in good shape, I see no reason you couldn't fire it. __________________ Bill DeShivs www.billdeshivs.com

12-29-2009, 09:43 AM	#3
Alpo Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NW Florida Posts: 8,658	Re: Bayard 32 acp info? If it looks like this, it was made before 1930. This version was made after 1930. __________________ Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy, and taste good with catsup - George of Lod, Year of Our Lord 297 I always take precautions. Beware the Evil Bullet Fairies.

12-29-2009, 08:02 PM	#4
belercous Former Guest Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 195	Re: Bayard 32 acp info? Its pre-1930. Thanks.

12-30-2009, 09:26 AM	#5
45Auto Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,119	Re: Bayard 32 acp info? After the occupation,1914, some of these were issued to the imperial German Army. The WWI Bayards have military inspection marks in place of the Belgian proof marks.

12-30-2009, 06:09 PM	#6
jondar V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 458	Re: Bayard 32 acp info? That's one neat little pocket gun. I looked at the two that are on the auction. One looks like yours, pretty good shape, the other is listed as a parts gun. $275 on the nicer one. If I weren't gun poor now I might bid on the nicer one. The parts gun is $150. Get some .32 ACP ammo and go for it.

12-30-2009, 07:17 PM	#7
Alpo Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NW Florida Posts: 8,658	Re: Bayard 32 acp info? My book says this is the smallest 32 auto made. Of course, this book was written before Seacamp and NAA 32s. Says the recoil is quite heavy, for a 32, because of that small size. __________________ Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy, and taste good with catsup - George of Lod, Year of Our Lord 297 I always take precautions. Beware the Evil Bullet Fairies.