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oldcrustytanker · 07-12-2012, 10:21 AM

I am new to the forum and also new to reloading. I have a few questions about reloading the 40s&w. I bought the Lee challenger single stage press and I have loaded 100 rounds of reloads. Recipe as follows:

5.0g of Bullseye Powder
180g Everglade's FMJ Flat Nose
CCI 550 Magnum Pistol Primer

When I went to crimp them with the Lee Factory Crimp Die some of them where stubborn going in to the die. Others were not, what does this mean? Some of the projectiles seated easier than the others as well. Am I doing something wrong? Should I trust these rounds?

Shooting an XDM Service Model .40cal

todd51 · 07-12-2012, 10:36 AM

The Lee Factory Crimp Die has sizing ring at the bottom and it will bring the case back to factory specs. Those that are a little harder going in probably had a slight bulge in the case that your sizing die didn't remove and now it is taken care of. This has been a normal occurrence with me and should not be a problem.

oldcrustytanker · 07-12-2012, 10:43 AM

Ok, Sounds great thanks for the quick response my man! I'm going to test fire them this weekend and if this load works I will continue to use it. I was just a little nervous as I've never reloaded pistol rounds. I just wanted to make sure they were correct.

dbach · 07-12-2012, 12:04 PM

Why CCI550 Small Pistol Magnum primers? I use the CCI500 Small Pistol.

Frogtop · 07-12-2012, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dbach

Why CCI550 Small Pistol Magnum primers? I use the CCI500 Small Pistol.

I agree with dbach. No need for magnum primers with the powder or load. Also, were the cases originally fired in a Glock? You will sometimes get a bulge with an older Glock as the case is not fully supported. This could be the cause of your resistance in the crimp die.

howlnmad · 07-12-2012, 12:28 PM

Have you checked these in your chamber? It's easy to do and generaly good practice. Just pull the barrel out of your XDM and check them for fit with that.

woolleyworm · 07-12-2012, 01:25 PM

welcome to TFF, I would also suggest that you never load more than about 20 rounds as you work up your loads. 20 bullets to pull is much easier than 100. I usually test in groups of 10 as I work up my loads/charge wts.

Dirtypacman · 07-12-2012, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by woolleyworm

welcome to TFF, I would also suggest that you never load more than about 20 rounds as you work up your loads. 20 bullets to pull is much easier than 100. I usually test in groups of 10 as I work up my loads/charge wts.

+1 on that we have all been there before take the advice. Someday you will thank us or curse us if you had not lol

Hammerslagger · 07-12-2012, 02:39 PM

Conservative advice is that cases that have been fired in a Glock chamber really should not be reloaded, as the Glock chamber design allows the brass to stretch more than many other chambers designs.

The foregoing advice being given, and knowing that many persons will not believe it or take it, cases fired in a Glock chamber should not be reloaded as many times as cases fired in other chambers.

As to the question of how many times can such cases be reloaded as safely as cases fired in most other chambers; refer to the opening sentence of this post.

oldfartrr · 07-12-2012, 06:21 PM

regarding cases fired in glock ,, send rcbs several fired cases and they will size a die specifcally for your gun so that you dont destroy your brass with excess working.
have done this in the past for myself and a couple of friends,, (personally will not buy another glock, because of this and just dont like the way they fit my hand.
glock chambers are cut to the max sami specs,, (so that they can be thrown in the dirt and muck, shake them out and continue as the military and other service use requires) most other manufacturers cut on the low side of the sami specs.

oldcrustytanker · 07-13-2012, 01:49 PM

I am new to reloading and have lots of questions. I am reloading .40S&W. I have my first 200 rounds loaded and I'm going to test them out in the morning. I wanted to put the load recipe up to see what you guys thought of this for a starting load.

180g Everglade's FMJ Flat Nose
5.0g of Bullsey Powder
CCI 550 Primers
With a light crimp with the LFC die.

Also:

.380 ACP

95g Everglade's FMJ Round Nose
2.5g of Bullsey Powder
CCI 550 Primer
Also with a light crimp

oldcrustytanker · 07-13-2012, 02:02 PM

What does it mean when your post is moved? I mean did I do something wrong or post it in the wrong spot or something?

Double D · 07-13-2012, 02:07 PM

I moved it to the proper forum, the reloading forum. We have different forums on different subjects and when we see posts that dont fit in one forum, we move them to their proper place. No big deal. You will get the answers you need here.

oldcrustytanker · 07-13-2012, 02:15 PM

All great information. I apologize for not responding sooner as I am trying to figure out how to utilize this forum. Mr. Todd 51 moved me so I could get some more info. but I didn't know how to find my post. Really though thanks for looking out for the newbies. I have heard that about the glocks and their unsupported chambers a bunch of my buddies shoot glocks and they also wanted to get into reloading. I have also heard there is a special tool to resize the glock bulge is this true? As far as the 550 primers this is all I could get my hands on, I have heard they will work there just a little hotter if you guys have heard different please inform me before I shoot tomorrow. Thanks again for all of the post and please feel my brain with knowledge!!

KEEP SHOOTING

oldcrustytanker · 07-13-2012, 02:18 PM

I apologize for that, I'm still trying to figure out how to utilize this forum. There is a great deal of knowledge here. Thanks for looking out for the newbies!!

Double D · 07-13-2012, 03:14 PM

No problem, welcome aboard!

BlackEagle · 07-13-2012, 03:39 PM

Welcome to the forums, oldcrustytanker; You've found a great place to ask questions and get good answers. Around here the only dumb question is the one not asked. We all started somewhere and had to learn by asking questions.

The mods here take good care of us; everyone works together to encourage, have a good laugh, share knowledge and experiences, and talk about mutual interests.

I don't shoot the same calibers you do, but someone else will have some ideas.

gdmoody · 07-13-2012, 03:42 PM

I have a question myself. Even though it can be done, why are you using Magnum primers in a .40 S&W and a .380?

Other than that, the loads sound fine!!

gdmoody · 07-13-2012, 03:47 PM

OOps, I answered the other post of the same name. But I will ask the same question here. Even though it can be done, why are you using Magnum primers in a .40S&W and a .380.

I don't think todd51 moved you cause I don't think he is a moderator. It would have had to be one of the folks whose name shows up in green.

BTW, welcome to the forum.

gdmoody · 07-13-2012, 03:50 PM

I just saw that those were the only primers that you could get hold of, that's OK. If you use a magnum primer in any load, that doesn't call for magnum, then you should start at the lowest load in the charts and work your load up to what works for your gun.

oldcrustytanker · 07-13-2012, 04:28 PM

Alright, thanks Moody! Yeah that was the only primers that were avaiable at Gander Mountain. I tend to get a little impatient when it comes to a new hobby! Since I have loaded a few I will go ahead and order a bulk pack of a 1000 or so. I have done a lot of research on the load data for these cal. and I believe they will work. I can't wait to try them in the a.m. Thanks for all the information and keep it coming for the first few loads I probably won't do anything without asking you guys first for I have noone around here who really reloads. Thanks again for all the info.

oldcrustytanker · 07-13-2012, 04:30 PM

Thanks for the welcome and the encouraging words BlackEagle you are correct I believe I have found the right forum to be a part of!!!!

BlackEagle · 07-13-2012, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldcrustytanker

Thanks for all the information and keep it coming for the first few loads I probably won't do anything without asking you guys first for I have noone around here who really reloads. Thanks again for all the info.

Better to ask too many questions than to not ask something important and have to deal with explosive consequences.

gun-nut · 07-13-2012, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackEagle

Better to ask too many questions than to not ask something important and have to deal with explosive consequences.

Welcome to the board!

BETH · 07-13-2012, 05:23 PM

welcome to the forum keep asking your questions will get answered don't worry bout that

07-12-2012, 10:21 AM	#1
oldcrustytanker Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 31	Question! I am new to the forum and also new to reloading. I have a few questions about reloading the 40s&w. I bought the Lee challenger single stage press and I have loaded 100 rounds of reloads. Recipe as follows: 5.0g of Bullseye Powder 180g Everglade's FMJ Flat Nose CCI 550 Magnum Pistol Primer When I went to crimp them with the Lee Factory Crimp Die some of them where stubborn going in to the die. Others were not, what does this mean? Some of the projectiles seated easier than the others as well. Am I doing something wrong? Should I trust these rounds? Shooting an XDM Service Model .40cal -->

07-12-2012, 10:36 AM	#2
todd51 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Central, Ohio Contributor Posts: 2,572	Re: Question! The Lee Factory Crimp Die has sizing ring at the bottom and it will bring the case back to factory specs. Those that are a little harder going in probably had a slight bulge in the case that your sizing die didn't remove and now it is taken care of. This has been a normal occurrence with me and should not be a problem. __________________ Retired Praefectus Vigilum NRA Endowment Member

07-12-2012, 10:43 AM	#3
oldcrustytanker Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 31	Re: Question! Ok, Sounds great thanks for the quick response my man! I'm going to test fire them this weekend and if this load works I will continue to use it. I was just a little nervous as I've never reloaded pistol rounds. I just wanted to make sure they were correct.

07-12-2012, 12:04 PM	#4
dbach V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Trinity, TX Posts: 167	Re: Question! Why CCI550 Small Pistol Magnum primers? I use the CCI500 Small Pistol. __________________ David Bachelder Trinity, TX Rookie Reloader but learning fast 9mm, 40S&W, 45ACP, 45 Colt, 38 Special, .357 Magnum, 38 S&W, .243, & 30-06 CHL ~ Texas

07-12-2012, 12:28 PM	#6
howlnmad Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Harriman, Tn Contributor Posts: 2,566	Re: Question! Have you checked these in your chamber? It's easy to do and generaly good practice. Just pull the barrel out of your XDM and check them for fit with that. __________________

07-12-2012, 01:25 PM	#7
woolleyworm TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SW Fort Worth Contributor Posts: 4,883	Re: Question! welcome to TFF, I would also suggest that you never load more than about 20 rounds as you work up your loads. 20 bullets to pull is much easier than 100. I usually test in groups of 10 as I work up my loads/charge wts. __________________ . What are you gonna do, talk the alien to death? -- (on Sigourney Weaver's worry about Guns in Aliens) "Safety is something that happens between your ears, not something you hold in your hands." "I carry a small gun to compensate for my huge Blue press." .

07-12-2012, 02:39 PM	#9
Hammerslagger Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,099	Re: Question! Conservative advice is that cases that have been fired in a Glock chamber really should not be reloaded, as the Glock chamber design allows the brass to stretch more than many other chambers designs. The foregoing advice being given, and knowing that many persons will not believe it or take it, cases fired in a Glock chamber should not be reloaded as many times as cases fired in other chambers. As to the question of how many times can such cases be reloaded as safely as cases fired in most other chambers; refer to the opening sentence of this post.

07-12-2012, 06:21 PM	#10
oldfartrr V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: northern calif Posts: 293	Re: Question! regarding cases fired in glock ,, send rcbs several fired cases and they will size a die specifcally for your gun so that you dont destroy your brass with excess working. have done this in the past for myself and a couple of friends,, (personally will not buy another glock, because of this and just dont like the way they fit my hand. glock chambers are cut to the max sami specs,, (so that they can be thrown in the dirt and muck, shake them out and continue as the military and other service use requires) most other manufacturers cut on the low side of the sami specs. Last edited by oldfartrr; 07-12-2012 at 06:29 PM..

07-13-2012, 01:49 PM	#11
oldcrustytanker Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 31	Question! I am new to reloading and have lots of questions. I am reloading .40S&W. I have my first 200 rounds loaded and I'm going to test them out in the morning. I wanted to put the load recipe up to see what you guys thought of this for a starting load. 180g Everglade's FMJ Flat Nose 5.0g of Bullsey Powder CCI 550 Primers With a light crimp with the LFC die. Also: .380 ACP 95g Everglade's FMJ Round Nose 2.5g of Bullsey Powder CCI 550 Primer Also with a light crimp

07-13-2012, 02:02 PM	#12
oldcrustytanker Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 31	Re: Question! What does it mean when your post is moved? I mean did I do something wrong or post it in the wrong spot or something?

07-13-2012, 02:07 PM	#13
Double D TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: North Florida Contributor Posts: 8,066	Re: Question! I moved it to the proper forum, the reloading forum. We have different forums on different subjects and when we see posts that dont fit in one forum, we move them to their proper place. No big deal. You will get the answers you need here. __________________ I own a bunch of scary guns. You want em? Come and take em..... Liberalism is a serious, non curable, mental disorder... NRA LIFE MEMBER Oath Keepers Member NRA Certified Instructor 30 Yr CC permit holder.

07-13-2012, 02:15 PM	#14
oldcrustytanker Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 31	Re: Question! All great information. I apologize for not responding sooner as I am trying to figure out how to utilize this forum. Mr. Todd 51 moved me so I could get some more info. but I didn't know how to find my post. Really though thanks for looking out for the newbies. I have heard that about the glocks and their unsupported chambers a bunch of my buddies shoot glocks and they also wanted to get into reloading. I have also heard there is a special tool to resize the glock bulge is this true? As far as the 550 primers this is all I could get my hands on, I have heard they will work there just a little hotter if you guys have heard different please inform me before I shoot tomorrow. Thanks again for all of the post and please feel my brain with knowledge!! KEEP SHOOTING

07-13-2012, 02:18 PM	#15
oldcrustytanker Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 31	Re: Question! I apologize for that, I'm still trying to figure out how to utilize this forum. There is a great deal of knowledge here. Thanks for looking out for the newbies!!

07-13-2012, 03:14 PM	#16
Double D TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: North Florida Contributor Posts: 8,066	Re: Question! No problem, welcome aboard! __________________ I own a bunch of scary guns. You want em? Come and take em..... Liberalism is a serious, non curable, mental disorder... NRA LIFE MEMBER Oath Keepers Member NRA Certified Instructor 30 Yr CC permit holder.

07-13-2012, 03:39 PM	#17
BlackEagle Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: UK Posts: 3,163	Re: Question! Welcome to the forums, oldcrustytanker; You've found a great place to ask questions and get good answers. Around here the only dumb question is the one not asked. We all started somewhere and had to learn by asking questions. The mods here take good care of us; everyone works together to encourage, have a good laugh, share knowledge and experiences, and talk about mutual interests. I don't shoot the same calibers you do, but someone else will have some ideas.

07-13-2012, 03:42 PM	#18
gdmoody Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Northeast Georgia Contributor Posts: 6,325	Re: Question! I have a question myself. Even though it can be done, why are you using Magnum primers in a .40 S&W and a .380? Other than that, the loads sound fine!! __________________ NRA Endowment Member GeorgiaCarry.Org Member Retired US Army Postal Worker Personally, I carry a gun because I'm too young to die and too old to take an ass whoopin'.....author unknown (but obviously brilliant)

07-13-2012, 03:47 PM	#19
gdmoody Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Northeast Georgia Contributor Posts: 6,325	Re: Question! OOps, I answered the other post of the same name. But I will ask the same question here. Even though it can be done, why are you using Magnum primers in a .40S&W and a .380. I don't think todd51 moved you cause I don't think he is a moderator. It would have had to be one of the folks whose name shows up in green. BTW, welcome to the forum. __________________ NRA Endowment Member GeorgiaCarry.Org Member Retired US Army Postal Worker Personally, I carry a gun because I'm too young to die and too old to take an ass whoopin'.....author unknown (but obviously brilliant)

07-13-2012, 03:50 PM	#20
gdmoody Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Northeast Georgia Contributor Posts: 6,325	Re: Question! I just saw that those were the only primers that you could get hold of, that's OK. If you use a magnum primer in any load, that doesn't call for magnum, then you should start at the lowest load in the charts and work your load up to what works for your gun. __________________ NRA Endowment Member GeorgiaCarry.Org Member Retired US Army Postal Worker Personally, I carry a gun because I'm too young to die and too old to take an ass whoopin'.....author unknown (but obviously brilliant)

07-13-2012, 04:28 PM	#21
oldcrustytanker Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 31	Re: Question! Alright, thanks Moody! Yeah that was the only primers that were avaiable at Gander Mountain. I tend to get a little impatient when it comes to a new hobby! Since I have loaded a few I will go ahead and order a bulk pack of a 1000 or so. I have done a lot of research on the load data for these cal. and I believe they will work. I can't wait to try them in the a.m. Thanks for all the information and keep it coming for the first few loads I probably won't do anything without asking you guys first for I have noone around here who really reloads. Thanks again for all the info.

07-13-2012, 04:30 PM	#22
oldcrustytanker Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 31	Re: Question! Thanks for the welcome and the encouraging words BlackEagle you are correct I believe I have found the right forum to be a part of!!!!

07-13-2012, 05:23 PM	#25
BETH Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: naugatuck,Ct. Contributor Posts: 6,668	Re: Question! welcome to the forum keep asking your questions will get answered don't worry bout that