lessons from Katrina thread - The Firearms Forum

cycloneman · 07-06-2012, 12:07 AM

I am gona book mark this and show you all a bit of what was learned here.

confiscation of weapons from good people.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd8q_...eature=related

cycloneman · 07-06-2012, 12:09 AM

There were many snipers in NO after the storm. Yes there were many basd guys there. Blackwater guys were there too.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0910-07.htm

cycloneman · 07-06-2012, 12:21 AM

still cant put a number on the dead from the storm

http://www.chron.com/news/nation-wor...ns-1589464.php

glens67 · 07-06-2012, 02:36 PM

Typical of a 3rd world state and city.

Kevin Rohrer · 07-06-2012, 06:33 PM

I would love to read an honest appraisal about what happened in that area of the country immediately following the storm in reference to the murders, rapes, robberies, looting, etc. Unfortunately, it would be too politically incorrect to publish.

millwright · 07-06-2012, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cycloneman

There were many snipers in NO after the storm. Yes there were many basd guys there. Blackwater guys were there too.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0910-07.htm

CM,

At risk of starting a huge fight, please document your allegations. I was very involved in the Katrina affair and never once saw any evidence of possibility, let alone proof of the "sniper" canard. Spoke with a number of people I know/trust who were there in the time frame and not one could confirm the activity.

Seems to me more of the "Super Dome" BS ! >MW

Hawg · 07-06-2012, 06:39 PM

Yeah, they confiscated some guns but not for long. I pulled sea/rail containers out of there before and after katrina. The National Guard was used for a police force. Our yard was in the ninth ward and there were signs all over the place saying you loot we shoot. Them ol boys weren't playing.

cycloneman · 07-06-2012, 09:31 PM

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP.../14/cp.02.html

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/la_..._troops_will_/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIJBTCYS9qg

after this i dont know what else to say

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsLjNUdEWc4

jack404 · 07-07-2012, 08:35 AM

I can confirm blackwater , when i came over to blow the old loading docks away at sea bottom level , blackwater delivered the RDX packs we used to cut the steel beams that had been driven into the bed , them docks where 2 miles long , 4 beams every 30 foot , lots of charges i did not arrive until 5 days after so missed all the real bad stuff then was busy 12 hours a day diving and setting charges or cutting away the concrete casings on the steel .. and we'd blow at the end of each 12 hours and play cards for 2 hours while doing deco

RDX is way better than C4 or other composites in water especially at the 60-90 foot depth a lot of it was , the weight of water helps it to work better, use less charge to cut the same thickness the deeper you go

jacks explosive trivia for the day

carver · 07-07-2012, 08:40 AM

I was in, and out, with the heavy equipment needed to rebuild, as soon as we could get it in there. What makes me the maddest over all this is that the then Governer of LA gave orders to the NG to shoot looters on sight! And to take firearms from law abiding citizens, and the NG did just that! For those of you who wonder if our military would violate the Constitution, and follow illegal orders against the American Public, well, there is your answer! And it's not the first time either!

gvw3 · 07-07-2012, 09:31 AM

What was there justification for this? I could see this happen in Chicago but the deep south. Looks to me as if they were just steeling the guns from the people. Did they ever get their guns back?

This is not the country I grew up in. Looks like its time to take it back.

cycloneman · 07-07-2012, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carver

Governer of LA gave orders to the NG to shoot looters on sight! And to take firearms from law abiding citizens, and the NG did just that! For those of you who wonder if our military would violate the Constitution, and follow illegal orders against the American Public, well, there is your answer!

Bravo! That is the biggest lesson here.

Dont get me wrong i know there was total anarchy in areas that needed to be taken under control. But the fact is the American public does not know what was used and how it was done. There is also very little documented about this.

07-06-2012, 12:07 AM	#1
cycloneman Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 7,401	lessons from Katrina thread I am gona book mark this and show you all a bit of what was learned here. confiscation of weapons from good people. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd8q_...eature=related __________________ Who are you going to serve today? -->

07-06-2012, 12:09 AM	#2
cycloneman Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 7,401	Re: lessons from Katrina thread There were many snipers in NO after the storm. Yes there were many basd guys there. Blackwater guys were there too. http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0910-07.htm __________________ Who are you going to serve today?

07-06-2012, 12:21 AM	#3
cycloneman Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 7,401	Re: lessons from Katrina thread still cant put a number on the dead from the storm http://www.chron.com/news/nation-wor...ns-1589464.php __________________ Who are you going to serve today?

07-06-2012, 02:36 PM	#4
glens67 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Middleton, ID Contributor Posts: 951	Re: lessons from Katrina thread Typical of a 3rd world state and city. __________________ The fish is rotting from the head down—all is not well at the top of the political hierarchy. "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." Albert Einstein There is nothing more dangerous than a fanatic moron. Many problems we face today are there because people who work for a living are now outnumbered by those who vote for a living. Molon Labe μολὼν λαβέ A Deo victoria Glen

07-06-2012, 06:33 PM	#5
Kevin Rohrer V.I.P. Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Medina, Ohio Posts: 278	Re: lessons from Katrina thread I would love to read an honest appraisal about what happened in that area of the country immediately following the storm in reference to the murders, rapes, robberies, looting, etc. Unfortunately, it would be too politically incorrect to publish. __________________ An armed society is a polite society--Robert Heinlein via Jeff Cooper Member: Orange Gunsite Family, NRA--Life, Varmint Hunters Assn, American Legion, ARCTA, & South Cuyahoga Sportsmen's Assn.

07-06-2012, 06:39 PM	#7
Hawg Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,557	Re: lessons from Katrina thread Yeah, they confiscated some guns but not for long. I pulled sea/rail containers out of there before and after katrina. The National Guard was used for a police force. Our yard was in the ninth ward and there were signs all over the place saying you loot we shoot. Them ol boys weren't playing.

07-06-2012, 09:31 PM	#8
cycloneman Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 7,401	Re: lessons from Katrina thread http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP.../14/cp.02.html http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/la_..._troops_will_/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIJBTCYS9qg after this i dont know what else to say http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsLjNUdEWc4 __________________ Who are you going to serve today?

07-07-2012, 08:35 AM	#9
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: lessons from Katrina thread I can confirm blackwater , when i came over to blow the old loading docks away at sea bottom level , blackwater delivered the RDX packs we used to cut the steel beams that had been driven into the bed , them docks where 2 miles long , 4 beams every 30 foot , lots of charges i did not arrive until 5 days after so missed all the real bad stuff then was busy 12 hours a day diving and setting charges or cutting away the concrete casings on the steel .. and we'd blow at the end of each 12 hours and play cards for 2 hours while doing deco RDX is way better than C4 or other composites in water especially at the 60-90 foot depth a lot of it was , the weight of water helps it to work better, use less charge to cut the same thickness the deeper you go jacks explosive trivia for the day Last edited by jack404; 07-07-2012 at 08:43 AM..

07-07-2012, 08:40 AM	#10
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,243	Re: lessons from Katrina thread I was in, and out, with the heavy equipment needed to rebuild, as soon as we could get it in there. What makes me the maddest over all this is that the then Governer of LA gave orders to the NG to shoot looters on sight! And to take firearms from law abiding citizens, and the NG did just that! For those of you who wonder if our military would violate the Constitution, and follow illegal orders against the American Public, well, there is your answer! And it's not the first time either! __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old. Last edited by carver; 07-07-2012 at 08:48 AM..

07-07-2012, 09:31 AM	#11
gvw3 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Chicago IL Area Contributor Posts: 3,259	Re: lessons from Katrina thread What was there justification for this? I could see this happen in Chicago but the deep south. Looks to me as if they were just steeling the guns from the people. Did they ever get their guns back? This is not the country I grew up in. Looks like its time to take it back. __________________ Criminals advocate stronger gun laws to foster a safer work environment. This limits their exposure to risk.