ancient city found on Caribbean sea floor - The Firearms Forum

the morning light · 12-15-2009, 06:30 PM

My personal theory is that most underwater cities that are found were built during the Ice Age and when the ice sheet retreated these cities gradually receded beneath the ocean.

http://www.heralddeparis.com/previou...ea-floor/65855

ampaterry · 12-15-2009, 06:42 PM

There are some GREAT shots there -
It is hard to imagine this being anything BUT an inundated city, but they do have to play it safe I guess -
This one should be VERY interesting -

ponycar17 · 12-15-2009, 06:46 PM

That's neat stuff!

There is another train of thought that says that the Earth's rotational axis shifted dramatically and over a short period of time at some point due to the unstable wobble we still have. Thomas Gold suggested this and there's good evidence to back it up... When this potentially happened, the earth's crust would have shifted dramatically. Because of the way centrifugal force would dictate that the earth be wider at the equator, land shifted dramatically and some areas sank very quickly. I don't know how valid this theory is but I've always found it interesting to consider.

red14 · 12-15-2009, 06:51 PM

Could this be the city of Atlantis?

ampaterry · 12-15-2009, 07:02 PM

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Could this be the city of Atlantis?

Well, the Caribbean IS "beyond the pillars of Hercules" - - -

deadin · 12-15-2009, 07:29 PM

Call me a sceptic, but I think the whole thing may be summed up in their final sentence:

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"... or to find out how to help fund their research, please contact..."

ampaterry · 12-16-2009, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by deadin

Call me a sceptic, but I think the whole thing may be summed up in their final sentence:

I LOVE this kind of stuff -

And here you are, with your pin in hand, popping my baloon -

And you may well be right.
But you have to admit, those pictures sure show SOMETHING down there -
If they are legitimate, of course.

I spent several hours with Google Earth, looking at the shallow spots in that area, just hoping to hit on this -

petesusn · 12-16-2009, 07:39 AM

Just another one of those things that make you go Hmmm. Very intriguing though.

mrkirker · 12-16-2009, 07:43 AM

Every few years, a 'new' city or 'civilization' is discovered, and an otherwise unsuccessful 'scientist' finds his retirement funded, LOL!

ampaterry · 12-16-2009, 08:55 AM

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Every few years, a 'new' city or 'civilization' is discovered, and an otherwise unsuccessful 'scientist' finds his retirement funded, LOL!

You doubt our learned brothers of the holy white smock?

For shame!

mrkirker · 12-16-2009, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ampaterry

You doubt our learned brothers of the holy white smock?

For shame!

Oh I NEVER doubt their motivation!

bcj1755 · 12-16-2009, 10:21 AM

What caused this city to sink? Was it run by Democrats?

mrkirker · 12-16-2009, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by bcj1755

What caused this city to sink? Was it run by Democrats?

I NEVER doubt THEIR motivation, either!

the morning light · 12-16-2009, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by bcj1755

What caused this city to sink? Was it run by Democrats?

Once upon a time 10,000 years ago they caused Global Warming......Splooosh!!!

Insulation Tim · 12-16-2009, 01:14 PM

The pictures, to me, look like WWII shots prior to a bombing run. Kind of a cloudy day in spots.

zkovach · 12-16-2009, 01:49 PM

neet article i found this to be funny though the project’s leader said, “It belongs to the people of this island, and to the world at-large. If any pieces are brought to the surface, they belong in the hands of a museum.”

There is a true "Indiana Jones" out there

Gun Geezer · 12-16-2009, 03:13 PM

Millions of years ago many mountainous and dessert regions were under prehistoric seas. Land masses have shifted, ocean levels have risen, receded and risen again. Ice ages have come and gone. Only Al Gore is certain that man with his modern civilization is responsible for global warming. A prudent person accepts climate changes and geological shifts as nature's way or even God's punishment for human transgressions. It takes a great ego to dispute God and nature.

jpmccr · 12-16-2009, 03:24 PM

pony, I believe I read/heard that at one time they thought the north pole was somehwere around Hawaii. Then a radical shift of the poles and it is where it is today. I am like GG that mountains have come and gone so why not in the process cities. There is actually a spot in Iceland where you can physically touch both the Americas plate and the European plate within say 15 - 20 meters.

Bobitis · 12-16-2009, 06:41 PM

Seriously?

If this 'city' was under water for any length of time, all the edges would be washed away. Too many square corners, perfectly straight roads and intersections, and nothing round anywhere.

ponycar17 · 12-16-2009, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jpmccr

pony, I believe I read/heard that at one time they thought the north pole was somehwere around Hawaii. Then a radical shift of the poles and it is where it is today. I am like GG that mountains have come and gone so why not in the process cities. There is actually a spot in Iceland where you can physically touch both the Americas plate and the European plate within say 15 - 20 meters.

I like the theory. I think that Thomas Gold has an ingenious mind and I subscribe to several of his theories. I believe that the axis shifting phenomenon is the most likely of any as to why our land has changed so dramatically in the past.

ampaterry · 12-17-2009, 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Bobitis

Seriously?

If this 'city' was under water for any length of time, all the edges would be washed away. Too many square corners, perfectly straight roads and intersections, and nothing round anywhere.

It depends on the scale. Rounding of stone corners would show in close detailed photo's, but not in distant shots.
There is no size reference in these pictures, but if this city is truly OLD, then it is truly BIG as well, for the reason you outlined.

Danwin22 · 12-17-2009, 07:57 AM

When I see such straight lines and the size of this city I am very suspicious this is a hoax.

Have any of the great minds like Alec Baldwin or Sean Penn verified this yet?

Maybe O'bummer can figure a way to tax it.

ampaterry · 12-17-2009, 08:11 AM

Now THAT'S funny, Danwin22!!!

What would Oprah say?

12-15-2009, 06:30 PM	#1
the morning light V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 288	ancient city found on Caribbean sea floor My personal theory is that most underwater cities that are found were built during the Ice Age and when the ice sheet retreated these cities gradually receded beneath the ocean. http://www.heralddeparis.com/previou...ea-floor/65855 --> Last edited by the morning light; 12-15-2009 at 06:31 PM..

12-15-2009, 06:42 PM	#2
ampaterry TFF Admin Staff Chaplain Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: West Tennessee Contributor Posts: 6,269	Re: ancient city found on Caribbean sea floor There are some GREAT shots there - It is hard to imagine this being anything BUT an inundated city, but they do have to play it safe I guess - This one should be VERY interesting - __________________ A woman who demands further gun control legislation is like a chicken who roots for Colonel Sanders. Larry Elder

12-15-2009, 06:46 PM	#3
ponycar17 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: South Carolina Contributor Posts: 4,884	Re: ancient city found on Caribbean sea floor That's neat stuff! There is another train of thought that says that the Earth's rotational axis shifted dramatically and over a short period of time at some point due to the unstable wobble we still have. Thomas Gold suggested this and there's good evidence to back it up... When this potentially happened, the earth's crust would have shifted dramatically. Because of the way centrifugal force would dictate that the earth be wider at the equator, land shifted dramatically and some areas sank very quickly. I don't know how valid this theory is but I've always found it interesting to consider. __________________ Arm yourself with intellectual Ammunition! Gunfacts 5.1 Myth-Busting Facts JustFacts.com on Gun Control Stopping Power, the Downloadable Book

12-15-2009, 06:51 PM	#4
red14 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N FLA Posts: 3,913	Re: ancient city found on Caribbean sea floor Could this be the city of Atlantis? __________________ I never argue, I state my opinion, and support my position.

12-16-2009, 07:39 AM	#8
petesusn Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: San Joaquin Valley, Ca. Posts: 614	Re: ancient city found on Caribbean sea floor Just another one of those things that make you go Hmmm. Very intriguing though. __________________ Self Defense: A basic human right The 2nd Amendment, ratified in 1787, refers to the National Guard, which was created 130 years later, in 1917. A man who may be asked in this century what he did to make his life worthwhile...can respond with a great deal of pride and satisfaction, "I served in the U. S. Navy." John F. Kennedy VFW Life Member

12-16-2009, 07:43 AM	#9
mrkirker Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,067	Re: ancient city found on Caribbean sea floor Every few years, a 'new' city or 'civilization' is discovered, and an otherwise unsuccessful 'scientist' finds his retirement funded, LOL! __________________ *I don't know if dogs have a heaven, but there will be dogs in mine.*

12-16-2009, 10:21 AM	#12
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12-16-2009, 01:14 PM	#15
Insulation Tim Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Ohio Contributor Posts: 2,294	Re: ancient city found on Caribbean sea floor The pictures, to me, look like WWII shots prior to a bombing run. Kind of a cloudy day in spots. __________________ Tim *"Remember the Ark was built by amateurs....Professionals built the Titanic"*

12-16-2009, 01:49 PM	#16
zkovach Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,005	Re: ancient city found on Caribbean sea floor neet article i found this to be funny though the project’s leader said, “It belongs to the people of this island, and to the world at-large. If any pieces are brought to the surface, they belong in the hands of a museum.” There is a true "Indiana Jones" out there

12-16-2009, 03:13 PM	#17
Gun Geezer Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,710	Re: ancient city found on Caribbean sea floor Millions of years ago many mountainous and dessert regions were under prehistoric seas. Land masses have shifted, ocean levels have risen, receded and risen again. Ice ages have come and gone. Only Al Gore is certain that man with his modern civilization is responsible for global warming. A prudent person accepts climate changes and geological shifts as nature's way or even God's punishment for human transgressions. It takes a great ego to dispute God and nature.

12-16-2009, 03:24 PM	#18
jpmccr Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NJ (really don't know why?) Posts: 530	Re: ancient city found on Caribbean sea floor pony, I believe I read/heard that at one time they thought the north pole was somehwere around Hawaii. Then a radical shift of the poles and it is where it is today. I am like GG that mountains have come and gone so why not in the process cities. There is actually a spot in Iceland where you can physically touch both the Americas plate and the European plate within say 15 - 20 meters. __________________ J.P. "The Desire to Serve, The Ability to Perform, and The Courage to Act." *"God invented whiskey to keep the Irish from conquering the world!"* "There are none so blind as those who will not see."

12-16-2009, 06:41 PM	#19
Bobitis Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 6,612	Re: ancient city found on Caribbean sea floor Seriously? If this 'city' was under water for any length of time, all the edges would be washed away. Too many square corners, perfectly straight roads and intersections, and nothing round anywhere. __________________ ^.^ A point in every direction is the same as having no point at all

12-17-2009, 07:57 AM	#22
Danwin22 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central Florida Posts: 223	Re: ancient city found on Caribbean sea floor When I see such straight lines and the size of this city I am very suspicious this is a hoax. Have any of the great minds like Alec Baldwin or Sean Penn verified this yet? Maybe O'bummer can figure a way to tax it.

12-17-2009, 08:11 AM	#23
ampaterry TFF Admin Staff Chaplain Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: West Tennessee Contributor Posts: 6,269	Re: ancient city found on Caribbean sea floor Now THAT'S funny, Danwin22!!! What would Oprah say? __________________ A woman who demands further gun control legislation is like a chicken who roots for Colonel Sanders. Larry Elder