20 gauge - The Firearms Forum

skiggle · 01-04-2011, 10:52 PM

I got a very nice 20 gauge Iver Johnson & Cycle singel shot...
has not been refinished, and the only number i can find on it is 1865 on 3 different parts of the gun making them all match. Whats it worth?

b.goforth · 01-05-2011, 12:30 PM

iver johnson single barrel champion shotguns with no letter code suffixes were made between 1909 and 1919. this four digit number would be al whole lot closer to 1909 than 1919.

CHAMPION MODEL 36-----------------------------------1909-1922
Single barrel; rebounding center mounted hammer; top lever operated break open design; gauges: 12, 16, and 20; barrel length: 28, 30, and 32 inches (features barrel and lug forged in one piece) bored full chock only; American black Walnut butt stock and fore-end; automatic extractors; weight 6¾ pounds; overall length with 30 inch barrel 45 inches; case hardened receiver (nickel available as option), browned barrel; automatic ejectors extra cost option; .410 bore, 24 and 28 gauges offered in 1913; 24 gauge dropped 1928; all gauges except 12 dropped after 1941; name changed to Champion single Barrel in 1917.
CHAMPION SINGLE BARREL-------------------------------1923-1978
This is the same gun as the earlier Model 36 champion except that the smaller gauges are now built on the same frame as the large gagues. See above picture for specifications. The exact year production stopped has not yet been determined. Some of these single barrel shotguns have been seen with Canadian marking, these were most likely shipped to Canada and then marked as there is no evidence that Iver Johnson’s Arms & Cycle Works ever had a manufacturing factory in Canada
VALUE: 100%=$250 60%=$95
Add 15% for 24, 28 gauges
bill

Popgunner · 01-05-2011, 02:40 PM

You are much appreciated around here Bill!

reinhard · 01-05-2011, 02:59 PM

within one hundred years from now his book will still be the BEST on the Iver -Johnson guns , a great achievement

01-04-2011, 10:52 PM	#1
skiggle Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 3	20 gauge I got a very nice 20 gauge Iver Johnson & Cycle singel shot... has not been refinished, and the only number i can find on it is 1865 on 3 different parts of the gun making them all match. Whats it worth? -->

01-05-2011, 12:30 PM	#2
b.goforth Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: houston, tx Posts: 3,174	Re: 20 gauge iver johnson single barrel champion shotguns with no letter code suffixes were made between 1909 and 1919. this four digit number would be al whole lot closer to 1909 than 1919. CHAMPION MODEL 36-----------------------------------1909-1922 Single barrel; rebounding center mounted hammer; top lever operated break open design; gauges: 12, 16, and 20; barrel length: 28, 30, and 32 inches (features barrel and lug forged in one piece) bored full chock only; American black Walnut butt stock and fore-end; automatic extractors; weight 6¾ pounds; overall length with 30 inch barrel 45 inches; case hardened receiver (nickel available as option), browned barrel; automatic ejectors extra cost option; .410 bore, 24 and 28 gauges offered in 1913; 24 gauge dropped 1928; all gauges except 12 dropped after 1941; name changed to Champion single Barrel in 1917. CHAMPION SINGLE BARREL-------------------------------1923-1978 This is the same gun as the earlier Model 36 champion except that the smaller gauges are now built on the same frame as the large gagues. See above picture for specifications. The exact year production stopped has not yet been determined. Some of these single barrel shotguns have been seen with Canadian marking, these were most likely shipped to Canada and then marked as there is no evidence that Iver Johnson’s Arms & Cycle Works ever had a manufacturing factory in Canada VALUE: 100%=$250 60%=$95 Add 15% for 24, 28 gauges bill __________________ Author: Iver Johnson's Arms & Cycle Works 1871-1993 H&R Arms Company 1871-1986 (due spring 2010) available from www.gunshowbooks.com website; iverjohnsoncollector.x10hosting.com

01-05-2011, 02:40 PM	#3
Popgunner Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Contributor Posts: 1,764	Re: 20 gauge You are much appreciated around here Bill! Last edited by Popgunner; 01-05-2011 at 02:41 PM..

01-05-2011, 02:59 PM	#4
reinhard V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 202	Re: 20 gauge within one hundred years from now his book will still be the BEST on the Iver -Johnson guns , a great achievement