Hording is alive and well!

[dsv424]

I was at my local Bas Pro yesterday and low and behold they had Rem. SP, LP, and SR. They were sorted in individual packs of 100 going for $3.49 each. And there was about 40 or 50 packs of each size so I grabbed 3 of each just to keep my supply up. While I was still in the aisle looking at some powder this guy came up with a hand basket and simple scooped the entire shelf of primers into the basket, didn't leave a single pack on the shelf. I was astounded, so I had to say something. I asked him if he was buying for himself and a few of his reloading buddies and he just smiled and said "Nope just for me". I just shook my head and walked away. To each his own I guess but I just don't understand this mentality!

[Lotsdragon]

Yeah I dont get this either, I keep 500 or so on hand but what heck you gonna do with 3 or 4 thousand primers. I mena c'mon how long can anyone person hold out? Couple of hours? If the chit really did hit the proverbial fan, You arent gonna hold any group off even with 5000 rounds. I shoot a lot when I do shoot (lately havent shot any) and I keep a 1000 rounds of 38's on hand and always have more than enough to deer hunt with. Why would you decide you need that many rounds? I dunno.........

[312shooter]

Ya know its funny, he probably though he was going to gouge a profit on some online auction. I am finding primers at stores online at least once a week, I'm not sure what the big fricken deal is with this anymore. By the way you are lucky - Bass Pro here in Las Vegas charges 4.99 per 100 on any of the primers, another store I went to locally wanted 49 bucks for 1000 magtec SP primers, what a joke.

[FTK87]

now now, i'm no hoarder, I can't afford it, but even if the chit hit the fan hard, i think i could head for the hills and depending on how organized the resistance was i belive i could hold out until i ran out of supplies. thats just with some basic knowledge and a good dose of common sense. if you stay in a city or other desly populated area, yea i give you a couple of hours. but if you can escape the chaos then you can survive as long as you have the means.

[woolleyworm]

Originally Posted by 312shooter

Ya know its funny, he probably though he was going to gouge a profit on some online auction. I am finding primers at stores online at least once a week, I'm not sure what the big fricken deal is with this anymore. By the way you are lucky - Bass Pro here in Las Vegas charges 4.99 per 100 on any of the primers, another store I went to locally wanted 49 bucks for 1000 magtec SP primers, what a joke.

For those that are only buying with profit in mind, I think they'll get their "just desserts" in the end. My thinking is to go ahead and let them buy all they'd like, I've ordered and received two primer orders within the last 6 weeks. I think we're about out of the woods. I'll be stocking up on primers that I'll need, but not more than a couple of years worth. btw, with shipping and hazmat, I payed just a hair over $37.00 / 1000 for Magtechs last month. I thought that was a little steep, but $49 !!!!

[Alpo]

"I keep 500 or so on hand but what heck you gonna do with 3 or 4 thousand primers."

Last time I put in a primer order, I bought 40 thousand. Mixed SP, LP, SR, LR and Shotshell. That was in January of '07. The CCIs and the shotshell were 20 dollars a thousand. The Mag-Techs were 15.60. People been complaining about how they couldn't find primers, for the past year, since the election. Hasn't bothered me. I've been sitting back, loading ammo. Sat down, last week, and primed 1500 38 special cases. Hard to do that when you only have 3 or 4 hundred primers.

If my supply was getting low, and I walked into a store and they had a shelf full of primers, and I had the money, I'd buy 'em all too. It's not "hoarding". Hoarding is, in my opinion, buying a huge supply of something, hopefully cheap, and waiting for shortages to drive the price up, so you can make a killing on 'em, selling them. Kinda like ticket scalping. Buying 50 tickets to a concert you have no plans on seeing, just so you can sell them for a profit at the theater.

What I do is called "stockpiling". If there is something I use, and it is there, and I can afford it, I buy it. That way, when I need it, I've got it.

[medalguy]

I'm with Alpo. I just received 20,000 Remington SR primers last week, and I've already loaded almost 3,000 of them and will use up most of them this weekend finishing up all that 5.56 brass I've been hoarding. This way I can take my M16 out and shoot all I want all winter long when it's too cold to do anything else.

If you load your own and shoot it, it's definitely not hoarding. Me, I want to have a good supply of ammo "just in case"--in case I want to shoot, in case they decide to add more taxes on the cost of components, in case of a continued shortage, or in case of anything else you can think of.

[dsv424]

Maybe hoarding is the wrong word. How about "inconsiderate" of fellow reloaders. But like I said in my first post "To each his Own". When I picked up those 300 hundred of each I was thinking about all those other reloaders that come to that same store everyday with hope of finding some just to start their new hobby. It would be ignorant on my part to think everyone has the same mind set as I.

[Freebore]

Originally Posted by dsv424

Maybe hoarding is the wrong word. How about "inconsiderate" of fellow reloaders. But like I said in my first post "To each his Own". When I picked up those 300 hundred of each I was thinking about all those other reloaders that come to that same store everyday with hope of finding some just to start their new hobby. It would be ignorant on my part to think everyone has the same mind set as I.

"Bingo".....you nailed it correctly in those few words

[Rembrandt]

Originally Posted by dsv424

Maybe hoarding is the wrong word. How about "inconsiderate" of fellow reloaders. But like I said in my first post "To each his Own". When I picked up those 300 hundred of each I was thinking about all those other reloaders that come to that same store everyday with hope of finding some just to start their new hobby. It would be ignorant on my part to think everyone has the same mind set as I.

While its a noble gesture to save some for the next guy....it's naive to think everyone has the same reloading needs as yourself and others are inconsiderate for taking more than you.

If the store thought it was a problem they would put a limit on purchases....since they didn't, why interfere with capitalism's free market system? They are just trying to make a profit by selling things that people want.

What I keep in stock most people wouldn't shoot up in a lifetime. I purchase in large quantities to get better pricing and hedge price increases. Shooting more than most doesn't make me a hoarder, it just means I'm a more active shooter.

[Big ugly]

I try to keep at least 300 rounds for everything I fire. I have enough supplies for at least 200 round of reloads for everything I fire with the exception of .32 acp. I have 1000 rnds of those but the wife and I both carry.

[Crpdeth]

Originally Posted by Lotsdragon

If the chit really did hit the proverbial fan, You arent gonna hold any group off even with 5000

If it hits the fan I can think of a lot more reasons to have ammo than to hold off groups of zombies...


Crpdeth

[Alpo]

Originally Posted by Rembrandt

While its a noble gesture to save some for the next guy....it's naive to think everyone has the same reloading needs as yourself and others are inconsiderate for taking more than you.

If the store thought it was a problem they would put a limit on purchases....since they didn't, why interfere with capitalism's free market system? They are just trying to make a profit by selling things that people want.

What I keep in stock most people wouldn't shoot up in a lifetime. I purchase in large quantities to get better pricing and hedge price increases. Shooting more than most doesn't make me a hoarder, it just means I'm a more active shooter.

Bingo. I know, personally, cowboy shooters that go through 2 or 3 hundred rounds a week in practice. This isn't a hobby. These people are competitors. They shoot. Many of them make their living off shooting. Buying three hundred primers every month or so won't make it.

[johnlives4christ]

if i had the money i would buy all the ammo i could find in every caliber i have. would have used to done that 3 or 4 years ago. i like having a good supply of ammo. i have 1000 rounds of 40 right now. every time i go to walmart i get more, the wife doesnt understand.

[JLA]

If it were me I would have bought all but one pack of each. I always try to leave some for the next guy, but thats just me... BTW i also have plenty of primers to get me through the winter...

[jdon72]

I too am with Alpo...you do not know when the next shipment will come in and if the price will go up even more. I always believe in bulk buying and always have a supply on hand. I have more than a 1000 rds per firearm and have the ability to reload more when I run out or when I just have spare time.
The guys who 'just buy enough' are the ones who are driving the shortages up and now, decided to start stockpiling which has created a dilema for people who are not ready for ?????

I would take all I could afford and maybe a little more and if that screwed the next guy...so well. He might be the one trying to get my supplies after ????? It is first come, first serve. There will be more and the fact that I was there first gives me the right. Now if I was in the store and someone needed some and I had bought them all, I would definetly give some to the point where it would not hurt me (unless she was HOTTTT, then I might give a little more). I do not like to run out and my wife keeps asking 'why more ammo?'...My reply is always...without bullets your gun is a rock.


If the crap hit the fan, and I am able to make it out of suburbia, I would have enough to last me many years and my future kids years if society decided to turn for the worst. I have enough to last me a long time and not run out.

Good luck in everyone else's purchasing.

J

[Appliancedude]

Well since there's no bass pro, cabelas, or sportsmans warehouse, anywhere near me, you can bet when the local guys here get some I'm gonna buy them out. I havn't been able to get primers where I live for the last 6 months. I'm complety out of everything but shotshell primers, and I"m almost out of them

[dsv424]

What was I thinking!!! Opening this can o" worms again. Its all coming back to me now how everyone came down on one side of the fence or the other the last time. Everyone had their passionate views of this and nothing was accomplished. I'll say this for the third and last time. TO EACH HIS OWN! I give up and should have never posted what I witnessed at that store and my personal feeling on it.

Although this reminds me of and old Jimmy Stewart movie "Its a Wonderful Life" in the scene where there was a run on his bank and anyone who saw this remembers how that turned out. I would hope everyone was on Jimmy's side if you know what I mean. This shouldn't be about capitalism as much as looking out for the for the other guy.

[JohnTheCalifornian]

I was fine on primers before the big wave hit. But I bought more so that I do not need to worry if I have enough primers to reload my ammunition. I have plenty and will for some time. It feels good knowing I dont have to be on the look out constantly for overpriced primers. I can go and shoot 300 rounds of 45 and not worry about it one bit. Ill go home and load up even more.

[312shooter]

Originally Posted by Appliancedude

Well since there's no bass pro, cabelas, or sportsmans warehouse, anywhere near me, you can bet when the local guys here get some I'm gonna buy them out. I havn't been able to get primers where I live for the last 6 months. I'm complety out of everything but shotshell primers, and I"m almost out of them

Let me help you out.....check out some of these links from time to time you will find primers pop up- I bought 3k cci #34's just a few hours ago, and have never gone dry throughout this whole Obama mess.

http://www.powdervalleyinc.com
http://www.grafs.com
http://www.gamaliel.com
http://www.natchezss.com
http://www.wideners.com
http://www14.inetba.com/tandtreloading/index2.ivnu

[medalguy]

312shooter,those are all good places to shop. I want to add that this is a good topic for discussion, and it doesn't hurt a bit for those interested to express their opinions. Personally I don't even look at the local shops for primers any more. I just order them online and wait for the big truck to pull up in front. Yes there's a hazmat fee but that equals the sales tax I don't have to pay at a local shop, and it saves my having to drive around all over town chasing a tray of primers.

Now I do shoot a lot so when I order 10k or 20k of primers I don't think that's hoarding as I will load it all within a couple of months, either for practice or storage for future use. I'm not putting those primers on the shelf and watching them, hoping they'll have babies or something. I USE THEM! I'm not reselling them at a profit at a gun show either. What's the difference in my shooting a lot, and the guy who shoots a hundred rounds twice a year? We are both doing what's fun to us, and what we are able to do. That's what free choice is all about.

[45nut]

Capitalism, fist come first serve and FINDERS KEEPERS comes to mind.

I'm not a reloader although I have helped a few find primers (JLA), but I look at my ammo purchases the same way. If I have the $$ and no one else is standing there looking at the same ammo, I'll buy as much as I can afford.

I still need more, but can't afford any now. When I get some extra cash, it's going to be used buy more ammo.

[navis128]

Originally Posted by dsv424

Although this reminds me of and old Jimmy Stewart movie "Its a Wonderful Life" in the scene where there was a run on his bank and anyone who saw this remembers how that turned out. I would hope everyone was on Jimmy's side if you know what I mean. This shouldn't be about capitalism as much as looking out for the for the other guy.

I think this subject was about capitalism. Maybe he looks out for the "other guy" by having ample ammo. Perhaps he shares it...or maybe he has the intention of looking out for the "other guy" when we are in the foxholes, but it wouldn't bother me a bit if he kept them for personal use.

Capitalism is what allows us to "look out for the other guy". How much $$ does the American people spend on other countries only to get dissed in one way or another.

[carver]

If TSHTF ammo will be almost as valuable as gold! I also buy in bulk, and have many thousands of primers on hand, and thousands of loaded bullets for each and every caliber of gun I own. Not because I think I will shoot up all this ammo, but because I know I will shoot up all this ammo! Or maybe trade some for food if TSHTF!

[navis128]

Isn't the Boy Scout Motto "Be Prepared"?

Will it ever stop RAINING!!!